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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:26 AM Sep 2021

Eric Boehlert: Fox News brainwashes anti-vaxxers -- and the press blames Biden

Fox News brainwashes anti-vaxxers — and the press blames Biden
Stop whitewashing
Eric Boehlert
59 min ago


Busy extending the list of “crises” that President Joe Biden must face, the Beltway media are busy adding Covid vaccinations as a looming failure for the Democrat, as the nation readies a national mandate for the inoculations.

By putting the onus on Biden for the millions of defiant Trump voters who refuse to take the free, safe, and effective shot even as their neighbors become sick and die around them, the press is boosting the GOP — and missing a huge story.

We’re witnessing one of the great mass brainwashings in American political history, as millions of Fox News Covid zombies eagerly swallow an ocean of lies, distortions, and misinformation. Yet the press blames Biden for not being able to convince them otherwise. Worse, the press blames the president without ever acknowledging the large-scale brainwashing that is happening.

Uncomfortable with reporting on a conservative movement that has lost touch with reality, the Beltway media are much more comfortable treating the vaccine story as one about a Democratic president who’s failing to properly communicate and persuade. And one who’s being outmaneuvered by Republicans.

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Virtually every reporter is working from the same script: Covid is surging and deaths are up because of Biden’s “inability” to persuade vaccine “skeptics.” What the Times report never addressed, and virtually none of them ever do, is that the reason millions of Americans still won’t get vaccinated is because there is a choreographed, deep-pocketed political and media campaign designed to make sure millions of people don’t get vaccinated. Period.

The press wants us to believe this is all just happening, by chance. It’s not.
Biden is battling powerful forces that reject science and are committed to prolonging the pandemic. That’s essential to understand our continued health crisis, yet the press refuses to address it. Holding vaccine dead enders responsible for their actions is just not something they want to do.


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Eric Boehlert: Fox News brainwashes anti-vaxxers -- and the press blames Biden (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2021 OP
About 1% of the adult US population watches Fox News on any given night Kaleva Sep 2021 #1
Seems to me the big 3 are providing accurate babylonsister Sep 2021 #2
Looking at articles about ratings, it appears the vast majority don't watch news Kaleva Sep 2021 #5
but many listen while driving and working - 25% of US adults say they often get news from radio certainot Sep 2021 #9
This lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #15
Truth. Vast swaths of US have no access to reasonable radio news whatsoever. FailureToCommunicate Sep 2021 #30
Correcto mundo. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #18
RW talk radio appears to be declining Kaleva Sep 2021 #24
Doesn't matter if wingnut radio loses money Wednesdays Sep 2021 #31
I live in rural Michigan Kaleva Sep 2021 #32
Huh. You looked on AM dial? druidity33 Sep 2021 #34
I did look at the AM list and I see only one RW station Kaleva Sep 2021 #35
75% of the votes TFG got in MI came from counties considered urban or near urban. Kaleva Sep 2021 #29
I must take issue with this. Chipper Chat Sep 2021 #20
I'm going by ratings Kaleva Sep 2021 #22
More like about half that. ancianita Sep 2021 #23
When one looks at actual numbers, Fox isn't the giant bogeyman people try to make it to be. Kaleva Sep 2021 #25
Sure. But if media people WANT to make Fox the bogeyman, they'll all make more $$ for that. ancianita Sep 2021 #26
Sure. But if media people WANT to make Fox the bogeyman, they'll all make more $$ for that. ancianita Sep 2021 #27
It is insidious. FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #3
here in nc...RW "talk radio" is prevalent essaynnc Sep 2021 #4
same in most of the country by area, but the city-dwelling 'experts' are oblivious. they don't even certainot Sep 2021 #12
Do you have a link that shows that? Kaleva Sep 2021 #33
K&R spanone Sep 2021 #6
Sorry, when it is willful acceptance, it's not "brainwashing." joetheman Sep 2021 #7
most of the country area-wise with many senators have no free easy alts other than rw radio certainot Sep 2021 #17
"DeMocRatS nEed BEtTeR meSsagIng!" Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #8
"DeMocRatS nEed BEtTeR meSsagIng!" LenaBaby61 Sep 2021 #21
I'm sick of this defeatist "we're not messaging" BS Moebym Sep 2021 #28
Well .... LenaBaby61 Sep 2021 #36
The immoral RW media must be held to account for this unprecedented disinformation campaign during a Pepsidog Sep 2021 #10
Films about culling world populations: Kingsmen, Avengers lindysalsagal Sep 2021 #11
where i live is mostly red and we have 2 stations simulcasting 1 on am and one on fm. AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #13
They help create a bad situation they then complain about Ohioboy Sep 2021 #14
maybe dated, but still... lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #16
Incredibly they want the pandemic to continue to make Biden and the libs look bad. It's staggeringly Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #19

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
1. About 1% of the adult US population watches Fox News on any given night
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:38 AM
Sep 2021

Far more watch the Big Three of CBS, NBC and ABC.

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
2. Seems to me the big 3 are providing accurate
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:43 AM
Sep 2021

information v. faux. Maybe OAN or whatever other swill they watch should have been mentioned.

Whenever I hear someone spew about their right to be unvaxxed, I conclude they cannot be watching one of the 3. Then again, they surely are not reading NYT either.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
5. Looking at articles about ratings, it appears the vast majority don't watch news
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:47 AM
Sep 2021

Fox has about 2 million viewers each night, the Big Three combined have much more but if I add it all together, including CNN and MSNBC, that comes out to a total of 10% of the adult population that watches the news.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. but many listen while driving and working - 25% of US adults say they often get news from radio
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:38 AM
Sep 2021

and 58% of that are between the ages of 30 and 64 ---from pew 2016

and in most parts of the country there are no free easy alternatives while driving and working - than rw raddio - a 95% propaganda monopoly that the russians have been feeding since at least 2008 when puitn/manafort got limbaugh to force palin on mccain

fox is the visual icing on the lie turd pie of the rw talk radio monopoly, the only medium that can do the uncontested repetition capable of selling the alternate reality that got us here.

media 'experts' like boehlert, basically all of them, live in cities and have been ignoring rw radio all their careers - like studying fish without the water

so they will continue to blame fox and facebook for trump and anti-vax while the limbaugh wannabes maggots feast on what's left of zombie limbaugh and the left squanders the opportunity to put the dittohead nation and the limbaugh GOP out of its misery with boycotts and artificial intelligence that would finally allow the boehlerts, dem party, and progressive orgs who've been getting their asses kicked by talk radio for 30 years to finally digitize and analyze all that invisible repetition

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
15. This
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:13 AM
Sep 2021

I'm taking fire, smoke, hypertension and COVID recovery in rural Colorado- one month left. I practically had to shut off the radio for my stay here as the NPR station fluctuates into some extra idiotic country-fried Xtian station on my shopping commute.
The anti-maskers dominate. Huge pickup trucks outnumber more sensible vehicles by about 5 to 1 and DAMN PROUD of it.
Some remote areas of the country have become "radio free USA".

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
30. Truth. Vast swaths of US have no access to reasonable radio news whatsoever.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 06:38 PM
Sep 2021

Hope you can get back to some place reasonable soon.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
24. RW talk radio appears to be declining
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:12 PM
Sep 2021

"Average revenue for a combination of stations in the all-news, news/talk, and news/talk/info formats is substantially lower than when looking at all-news stations alone – in 2021, $2.1 million per station."

And all news radio revenue appears to have declined as well.

"Average radio revenue dropped fairly sharply in 2020 – by 24% – for stations in the all-news format, according to Pew Research Center analysis of MEDIA Access Pro & BIA Advisory Services data. Average station revenue for stations in the all-news format dropped from $18.1 million in 2019 to $13.9 million in 2020."

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/fact-sheet/audio-and-podcasting/

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
31. Doesn't matter if wingnut radio loses money
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:39 PM
Sep 2021

They'll be bankrolled by billionaires and the GOP until doomsday.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
32. I live in rural Michigan
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 05:20 AM
Sep 2021

I live in one of the ,most rural counties in the state and there are no RW stations available to me. There are 2, in all of Upper Michigan and northern Wisconsin that are talk radio that aren't NPR but I do not get either where I live.

http://www.michiguide.com/up/

If billionaires are bank rolling wingnut radio, they aren't doing it in rural upper Midwest.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
34. Huh. You looked on AM dial?
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:35 AM
Sep 2021

I live in rural MA and there's quite a few accessible here. I'm sure you have country music stations there... probably a few bible stations too! When they're not playn' honky tonk or sermonizing, that's when you'll find the talkers round here. It all goes together, you see...




Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
29. 75% of the votes TFG got in MI came from counties considered urban or near urban.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:06 PM
Sep 2021

Places that would have a much wider and easy to access radio stations.

I live in one of the ,most rural counties in the state and there are no RW stations available to me. There are 2, in all of Upper Michigan and northern Wisconsin that are talk radio that aren't NPR but I do not get either where I live.

http://www.michiguide.com/up/

Chipper Chat

(9,677 posts)
20. I must take issue with this.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:02 AM
Sep 2021

I work at a hotel in indiana and go into rooms after guests check out. I have to turn on TVs to see if they are workjng. I would say about 2 in 5 are on fukks news.and we have 105 channls. Most
Watched? I would say espn, local channls, hgtv, and cartoon channels. Never msnbc unfortunately.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
22. I'm going by ratings
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:51 PM
Sep 2021

"Nielsen data for the week of Aug. 30, 2021 is in, and ABC World News Tonight with David Muir was once again the most-watched show on television, averaging 8.52 million total viewers for the week. It also remained the top evening newscast among adults 25-54, averaging 1.66 million from the key demo....

NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt averaged 1.36 million adults 25-54 and 7.12 million total viewers this past week, which is the newscast’s largest average audience in 25 weeks....

CBS Evening News with Norah O’Donnell averaged 5.16 million total viewers this past week, the show’s largest average audience for a week since April, and +10% more than what it averaged the previous week. "

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/week-of-aug-30-evening-news-ratings-world-news-tonight-remains-no-1-and-posts-year-over-year-growth-among-adults-25-54/488232/

Compare the above to Fox News Primetime which has about 2 million viewers.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/thursday-sept-9-scoreboard-fox-news-once-again-outrates-msnbc-and-cnns-combined-audiences/488559/

ABC World News Tongiht alone has 4 times the viewers Fox news Primetime has.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
23. More like about half that.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:56 PM
Sep 2021

If you go by Nielson since 2015.




Regardless, that general idea is exactly right. The numbers aren't as big as media want to histrionically present.

And the ripple effect Boehlert describes can dissipate across the 3rd largest country and only ideologues across regions to incessantly revive some content, and with no mainstream cable or broadband to counter the hair on fire existential lies, the 74 million of trumcult will stay glued.

The numbers aren't necessarily working in the gop's favor, though, because the truth comes out in time and so the trumcult vote might not hold in the next two cycles.

So these media stir a lot of anxiety, fear and distrust that this president has to damp down almost daily. And his poll numbers are better than tfg's ever were.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
26. Sure. But if media people WANT to make Fox the bogeyman, they'll all make more $$ for that.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:25 PM
Sep 2021

Fox generates the corporate Right's messaging, and the rest of the alt-right media echo it, which just seems like big numbers.

Pre-covid I made it a habit, whenever I was in a public business and they had Fox on, I complained, saying "Everybody watches CNN, what's wrong with you?" until the channel got changed or I left. I refused to help either Fox or alt-right's profits.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
27. Sure. But if media people WANT to make Fox the bogeyman, they'll all make more $$ for that.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:26 PM
Sep 2021

Fox generates the corporate Right's messaging, and the rest of the alt-right media echo it, which just seems like big numbers.

Pre-covid I made it a habit, whenever I was in a public business and they had Fox on, to complain, saying "Everybody watches CNN, what's wrong with you?" until the channel got changed or I left. I refused to help either Fox or alt-right's profits.

FalloutShelter

(11,849 posts)
3. It is insidious.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:43 AM
Sep 2021

The Death Cult Rethugs want more people infected and dying so that the economy crashes. They blame Biden and win back the entire government over the next two election cycles.

The press is stuck in its own re-affirmation loop. Both sides deserve an equal amount of scorn and blame... rinse repeat, and it is simply not true.

The Republican party has become an authoritarian, fascist death cult. FULL STOP.

essaynnc

(801 posts)
4. here in nc...RW "talk radio" is prevalent
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:45 AM
Sep 2021

And the lies and distortion and half truth and complete bs that spews, is mind boggling.

FAUX news...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. same in most of the country by area, but the city-dwelling 'experts' are oblivious. they don't even
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:49 AM
Sep 2021

poll for it.

all these trumpers should be asked "approximately how many hrs of talk radio would you say you listen to in a normal week, 0-5, 5-20, or 20 or more?" etc

and in north carolina at least 16 xlimbaugh stations are endorsed with the sports broadcasts/mascots/brands of 4 major NC universities while the republicans there sell global warming and covid denial, blame biden/dems for everything no matter what they do, sell voter suppression, defund public ed, sell anti-choice, racism, bathroom bills, enable idiot conservadems like manchin, and so on - while the experts blame fox and facebook - which depend on the left and dems ignoring talk radio while it does the unchallenged groundwork repetition and kicks their ass with a few hundred limbaugh wannabes on 1500 unchallenged ignored radio stations

NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
33. Do you have a link that shows that?
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 05:55 AM
Sep 2021

here is a link that lists the radio stations for Upper Michigan. Out of all of them, just 2 are talk radio (Not NPR) and I don't get either.

http://www.michiguide.com/up/



 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
7. Sorry, when it is willful acceptance, it's not "brainwashing."
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:54 AM
Sep 2021

No excuses...they believe this shit because they want to believe it.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
17. most of the country area-wise with many senators have no free easy alts other than rw radio
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:24 AM
Sep 2021

if you're driving and working and want to get some news sports weather emergency announcement before going home to fight for the remote

the free speech, everyone has a choice argument is garbage. facebook and TV and internet are part of fthe free speech spectrum but political talk radio is not - iit's a 95% rw racist global warming and covid denying monopoly - always republican and often shamefully endorsed by our universities and pro sports - like these 87 unis

giving that a free speech free ride is why we're in this disaster, why they have 49 senators plus that fucking manchin - who relies on those talk radio dittohead made-to-order constituencies to enable his sell outs

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
21. "DeMocRatS nEed BEtTeR meSsagIng!"
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:49 AM
Sep 2021

They need messaging period!


The GQP/US Taliban Party never shuts up or stops lying--even when they're caught lying 🤬

Moebym

(989 posts)
28. I'm sick of this defeatist "we're not messaging" BS
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:48 PM
Sep 2021

We ARE doing messaging.

I have been seeing billboards, TV ads, and online ads, promoting Biden's agenda and accomplishments and a solid presence on social media. Our leaders have been traveling around the country to do the same; in fact, Biden himself is on a tour of the American West today, during which he will also be stumping for Governor Newsom. Apparently, much of this has gone unnoticed or ignored by many of my fellow Dems.

Is it our fault that Democrats hardly get invited to shows like Face the Nation? Is it our fault the media's coverage is provably biased toward the negative and critical viewpoints?

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
36. Well ....
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 09:27 AM
Sep 2021

During that Afghanistan withdrawal after 20 long years, I saw very few Dems defending Biden. There were some very popular Dem political tweeters who were wondering "Where Dem support for Biden was?" Some were saying, that the ones out there aren't offering Biden much of a defense.

Democrats offer some harsh reviews of Biden on Afghanistan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/17/democrats-offer-some-harsh-reviews-biden-afghanistan/

Vulnerable Democrats seek distance from Biden on ... - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/politics/vulnerable-democrats-reaction-biden-afghanistan/index.html

Biden Finally Unifies Congress—Against His Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle
In a rare display of bipartisanship, angry lawmakers of both parties are pushing the president to do more to aid Afghan refugees.


https://newrepublic.com/article/163310/democrats-midterm-elections-afghanistan-withdrawal

I found article after article after article where there was a surprising amount of Dems criticizing Pres. Biden on the Afghanistan pullout. And as you rightfully mention, most bookings on news shows were given to those GQP/US Taliban supporters who were harshly critical of Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal. They went on and on and in on Biden. And here we are post the Jan. 6th insurrection and there are still PLENTY GQP/US Taliban party members still defending and standing behind their treasonous, insane, fascist, authoritarian leader whose out there continuing his super-spreader rallies/events crying about the 2020 GE was rigged and stolen from him by Pres. Biden and the Democrat Machine, and fatso's doing permanent damage to this country daily and some of these asses in the non-existent liberal but really corporate media are going after Biden on one thing after another, except now ramping up their criticism of his handling of Covid-19 It doesn't matter that RED state GQP/US Taliban party governors are murdering their own constituents with their non-mask mandates or in the case of DeathSentence, making money off giving them meds that will kill them, and meanwhile he's too busy campaigning and raising dark boat loads of money so he can run for the US Presidency. I guess he wants to win the Presidency so he can murder us all off, or enough of us who are liberal, old, or Democrats or black. Someone told me that Chuck Todd said something along the lines of "Why doesn't pres. Biden do something about the spreading variants of Covid-19?" Like, what the fuck is he going to do with RED state governors who want to murder off their whole populations and make covid-19 worse so they can blame Pres. Biden for it? So it's Biden's fault that DeathSentence, Abbott and jerk Noem in SD are murdering off their OWN constituents, and especially to children? Biden's trying to push-back himself against RED state murdering governors, but with Todd, Tapper and Mrs. Greenspan in there, who needs enemies? Dems gotta come down hard and heavy on that, or the so-called liberal media may just pivot to asking why Pres. Biden won't DO something to stop the spread of Covid-19 for the next 3 years of his administration.

I know you know who Eric Boehlert is. I subscribe to his baby http://PressRun.Media instead of reading the biased times and becoming more biased Washington Post.

https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor




Biden's numbers were wrecked due to a corporate media who WANTS blood, ratings and more war, and Richard Engel made a complete jack ass of himself with his biased and extremely slanted right coverage of Biden's troop removal from Afghanistan. Biden doesn't give a damn about poll numbers. He's interested in what's best for this country, and getting the hell out of Bush/Cheney's war that they lied the US into was the correct answer. But no, the mostly corporate media wants more war, ad dollars and their ratings to come back to what they were with ring-master tRump--their fat cash cow--destroying our country, it's democracy and fucking up things in general.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
10. The immoral RW media must be held to account for this unprecedented disinformation campaign during a
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:44 AM
Sep 2021

national emergency that likely will cause close to a million deaths. Should sanity ever return then people must be punished starting with Lachlan Murdoch and Rupert along with Fox scum.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
11. Films about culling world populations: Kingsmen, Avengers
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:47 AM
Sep 2021

Endgame, many James Bond films, Planet Of The Apes,, Jurassic Park, what else? China Syndrome? It used to be a movie plot: kill off some or all of a population. Now, it's political strategy, and their idiot followers are complying.

AllaN01Bear

(18,154 posts)
13. where i live is mostly red and we have 2 stations simulcasting 1 on am and one on fm.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:55 AM
Sep 2021

we have had people having the radio blasting so loud that it can be heard for blocks .

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
14. They help create a bad situation they then complain about
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:06 AM
Sep 2021

Then they complain about any measures to fix the bad situation.

They create a need for mandates, then complain about mandates.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
19. Incredibly they want the pandemic to continue to make Biden and the libs look bad. It's staggeringly
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:44 AM
Sep 2021

un-freaking-believable. And they are damn HAPPY about that. A serious illness has taken over large swaths of the U.S. aside from C-19. And they said we had "Trump-Derangement Syndrome"?? Even if we intensely disliked and disapproved of his corrupt, mob-boss, dictator-adoring administration, I don't recall wishing them dead. Intentional Death is what they are fine with now. The GOP needs to be re-named accordingly.

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