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Aristus

(66,316 posts)
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:31 AM Sep 2021

Does the US still have a "No First Use" nuclear policy?

If so, then General Milley did the right thing by assuring China that the US would stand by that commitment no matter what Trump wanted to do with our nukes.

General Milley did the right thing.

Let the 'pukes trash him.

We Democrats shouldn't.

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Does the US still have a "No First Use" nuclear policy? (Original Post) Aristus Sep 2021 OP
The U.S.A. has NEVER had a "No First Use" policy. hunter Sep 2021 #1
"Still"? When did we ever? mathematic Sep 2021 #2
Never had one atreides1 Sep 2021 #3
No, we do not have a no first use policy DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2021 #4
Obama considered using nukes in a first strike in 2010? Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #9
No DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2021 #10
Well. This is dismaying. Aristus Sep 2021 #5
We never have had such a policy. sarisataka Sep 2021 #6
Never had one. During the Cold War the thought was that the Soviets... JHB Sep 2021 #7
First use without an imminent nuclear attack or an ongoing conventional attack is unconstitutional Klaralven Sep 2021 #8

hunter

(38,310 posts)
1. The U.S.A. has NEVER had a "No First Use" policy.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:39 AM
Sep 2021

It's just one of those lies we tell ourselves so we can sleep at night.

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
2. "Still"? When did we ever?
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:40 AM
Sep 2021

Now that you know that the USA has a "we reserve the right to nuke you first" policy, which is the complete opposite of what you thought our policy was, how has that changed your analysis?

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
3. Never had one
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

Pakistan, Russia, United Kingdom, United States, and France say that they will use nuclear weapons against either nuclear or non-nuclear states only in the case of invasion or other attack against their territory or against one of their allies.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,922 posts)
4. No, we do not have a no first use policy
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:45 AM
Sep 2021

President Obama considered it in 2010 but decided against it. I don't remember hearing that changing during the last Nuclear Posture Review in 2018. The only promise we made is that we will not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states who comply with the Non Proliferation Treaty. I think only two countries have no first use policies, China and India. Every other nuclear state keeps the option on the table.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
5. Well. This is dismaying.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:58 AM
Sep 2021

Still, General Milley did the right thing.

God damn the idiots who put the nuclear triggers into the hands of a demented reality show host...

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
6. We never have had such a policy.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:06 PM
Sep 2021

We have unofficially stated we would not initiate use of NBC warfare but reserve the right to respond to use of such weapons in like but not kind manner. It has never been codified however.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
7. Never had one. During the Cold War the thought was that the Soviets...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:08 PM
Sep 2021

...could field overwhelming numbers in conventional warfare. Tactical nukes were a counterbalance to that.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
8. First use without an imminent nuclear attack or an ongoing conventional attack is unconstitutional
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:08 PM
Sep 2021

The President does not have the power to make war by himself. So an order for first use of nuclear weapons by the President alone when there is no national emergency caused by either an imminent or actual nuclear attack or an ongoing conventional attack is unconstitutional.

First use under these circumstances would require a declaration of war by Congress to be constitutional.

https://media.nti.org/documents/The_President_and_Nuclear_Weapons_Authorities_Limits_and_Process.pdf

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