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yonder

(9,663 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:47 PM Sep 2021

So my wife gets home from work last night, sees me and bursts into tears

She's professionally well-regarded as a critical care nurse and has been for over 40 years.....in Idaho.

Close to retirement, she feels yesterday's announcement of our statewide implementation of 'crisis standards of care' pretty much torpedoed her hopes of leaving her patients, colleagues, institution and profession better off than when she first began.

As we all are in some way or other, she is yet another victim of our collective failure to come together while using science and work positively towards doing what needs to be done.

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So my wife gets home from work last night, sees me and bursts into tears (Original Post) yonder Sep 2021 OP
My sympathy to your wife and this ordeal she must live through... Moostache Sep 2021 #1
Thank you, I'll let your anger and frustration speak louslobbs Sep 2021 #25
Amen, amen, amen, amen... MiHale Sep 2021 #29
A bandwagon well worth jumping on! BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #58
Your wife has not failed. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2021 #2
Ditto!!! dutch777 Sep 2021 #10
x 1,000,000!! sarchasm Sep 2021 #14
It was republicans who failed... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #23
I'm so sorry. Nt spooky3 Sep 2021 #3
Please give your wife a DU group hug from all of us. bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #4
✔️ blm Sep 2021 #28
Tell her that a lot of us see her as a hero Clash City Rocker Sep 2021 #5
Ooof Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #6
It's not her fault, not from lack of trying or skill. You said it: "she is a victim" . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #7
I share her feeling that we are not anywhere near where we could/ should be Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #8
I don't know your wife but I'm sure bluecollar2 Sep 2021 #9
Let your wife know that she has my support Retired Engineer Bob Sep 2021 #11
It is a societal failure, not your wife's. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #12
Deepest admiration and thanks sarge43 Sep 2021 #13
The pandemic was horrific, but Roc2020 Sep 2021 #15
My dear wife was a critical care burn nurse for almost 40 years Rural_Progressive Sep 2021 #16
Since my wife was in somewhat the same boat, please let her know that she is the hero, not a failure DFW Sep 2021 #17
Amazing woman, she is LittleGirl Sep 2021 #48
Thanks! DFW Sep 2021 #49
She sounds like she's the best of her profession peacefreak2.0 Sep 2021 #18
Thanking your wife for her service to humanity. joetheman Sep 2021 #19
I don't believe in collective failure. We were never one. Hortensis Sep 2021 #20
It took me a long time to realize DENVERPOPS Sep 2021 #21
I agree OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #59
i hope when and if i have to go to the er there is room for me as i am afib. AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #22
That is so disappointing, I know. summer_in_TX Sep 2021 #24
Your wife did not fail, she is a hero! louslobbs Sep 2021 #26
Please thank your wife.... mudstump Sep 2021 #27
++ llashram Sep 2021 #30
Your wife has done a remarkable job for Idaho. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #31
She is a Hero! greblach Sep 2021 #39
Please give these extra hugs to your wife and thank her all she does on the front line. MLAA Sep 2021 #32
I completely empathize with your wife and her feelings. When I left my last duty station.... usaf-vet Sep 2021 #33
Your wife is a hero. panader0 Sep 2021 #34
Another tragic result of being lockstep with stupid. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2021 #35
We're basically in a second Civil War at this point... AngryOldDem Sep 2021 #37
I totally agree. How does this one end? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2021 #50
I am tired of this. AngryOldDem Sep 2021 #36
I wish I could hug your dear hero of a wife... MontanaMama Sep 2021 #38
It is a war. roamer65 Sep 2021 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #41
She did her part for humanity. Humanity is lucky to have her. She is a great spirit. ancianita Sep 2021 #42
She is a hero, a saint, an angel. She stands for healing bronxiteforever Sep 2021 #43
My daughter is getting more disillusioned by the day. appleannie1 Sep 2021 #44
Regardless of what her brother and uncle say, wnylib Sep 2021 #47
Please give her our love wryter2000 Sep 2021 #45
She's a hero Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #46
Bless your wife. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #51
Sending her empathy and respect. Incomprehensibly awful what health care workers are enduring... n/t KatK Sep 2021 #52
Health care employees are true heroes susanr516 Sep 2021 #53
I just can't imagine how hard it is for her, and others like her, during this Covid surge. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #54
Please thank her for us here. calimary Sep 2021 #55
It's time for nurses to say, Bullshit! You abandoned us! tavernier Sep 2021 #56
I'm in Lewiston. Tomorrow there is a terrorist sympathizer, COVIDiot, flag humpin' hootenanny brewens Sep 2021 #57
Republicans are now creating their death panels. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #60
She's a hero and her patriot for her service to the public. Takket Sep 2021 #61

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. My sympathy to your wife and this ordeal she must live through...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:52 PM
Sep 2021

But I am done giving a single fuck about ANYONE unvaccinated at this point - unless they simply cannot vaccinate for medical reasons (not the phony bullshit religious ones).

I want these people who refuse to proactively seek mitigations to go into holding tanks - open air, fenced offed and tarped - and WAIT THEIR TURN for everyone else to get care first. They are choosing, in my mind, to go to the back of the line. Their fucking "freedumb" does not come with a "skip-the-line" pass and it should significantly increase the likelihood that THEY die waiting for treatment and not other people having heart attacks or scheduled cancer surgery or fixing a hernia.

Enough is enough. Get vaccinated or get the fuck out of the hospital system until there is down time to see if you can be saved - NOT THE GODDAMN OTHER WAY AROUND.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. Your wife has not failed.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:52 PM
Sep 2021

I’ll bet money her patients don’t feel like she failed them.

She sounds like a wonderful person. Give her a big hug from me.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
23. It was republicans who failed...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:38 PM
Sep 2021

for politicizing the pandemic and down playing the seriousness of this horrible virus.

Your wife sounds like she did everything a human being could have possibly done to leave her profession better than she found it.

She has absolutely no reason to hang her head in sadness. Think of how bad things would have been if she wasn't there. That should be the measure of her success. She kept the train from going completely off the rails.

Please thank her for all of us for her dedication to duty, and her compassion in a time of complete chaos. Others would have run from such a terrible time (and many did) but she sacrificed so much to aid complete strangers in their time of need. She's a champion.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
4. Please give your wife a DU group hug from all of us.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:57 PM
Sep 2021

In 40 years she has helped thousands of people. You just can’t fix stupid you can try to help them, work to save them, but you just can’t fix stupid. 40 years a nurse, you married an amazing woman.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
6. Ooof
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:02 PM
Sep 2021

I am so sorry. This must be a trying time for her, and so difficult for all of her colleagues, too.

Hope you can give her comfort away from the job, and I hope her retirement comes soon. Her own physical and mental health are important, so she should do what she needs to to maintain them.

11. Let your wife know that she has my support
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:10 PM
Sep 2021

That her career helping others is appreciated. I recently spoke with my infectious disease specialist, he had over 10 folks currently in the ICU on ventilators, none of whom were vaccinated. He has given up arguing with the anti-vax nut jobs, they just refuse to listen. Their Facebook “research” trumps his medical knowledge. He is so PO’d he will be taking an early retirement as soon as this is over.

Irish_Dem

(46,924 posts)
12. It is a societal failure, not your wife's.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

She bears no responsibility at all for what is happening.

With such a stellar professional record, she deserves accolades.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
13. Deepest admiration and thanks
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:18 PM
Sep 2021

The courage and dedication given by her and others like her should humble us.

She saves lives, no higher duty.

A virtual

Roc2020

(1,615 posts)
15. The pandemic was horrific, but
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:27 PM
Sep 2021

Trump and the GOP politicizing it has caused suffering to heroes like your wife and untold deaths that frankly it's almost unforgivable

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
16. My dear wife was a critical care burn nurse for almost 40 years
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:28 PM
Sep 2021

She retired almost three years ago and I am so grateful she has not been involved in this.

Both our hearts have been breaking for months thinking about what her colleagues have had to endure for this past year and a half.

Please let her know there many of us who have either been in the field or have loved and supported someone doing that so very difficult work that are with her, and you, in thought and spirit.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
17. Since my wife was in somewhat the same boat, please let her know that she is the hero, not a failure
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:29 PM
Sep 2021

My wife was not a nurse, but a social worker, and that was here in Germany, which has a somewhat more extensive social safety net than the USA, although nowhere near the phony legends spread about it in some circles for (apparently) propaganda purposes.

But even so, her success stories often came from her skirting the system than from her working within it. Some of her "clients" needed to be shepherded through the maze of German bureaucracy, and often around it. But she fought for her unemployed charges like a wounded badger defending her cubs, getting them debt relief, cheap housing, and food, even when they would have preferred liquor. When some of them still preferred to live under a bridge, and the system was perfectly happy to let them, it crushed her, but she kept on until her very last day, when she dragged some Russian immigrant to some office that granted him some money and a job application where he never would have survived the battle himself.

The system is often uncaring. The ones who keep caring despite that are the true heroes of society, even if the burden is so crushing at times as to drive them to tears. My wife shed enough of her own, so I know what it means.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
49. Thanks!
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:17 PM
Sep 2021

She instilled the same values in our two daughters, though they went into different lines of work. During the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, the one that lives in the USA volunteered to help clean out houses in the New York area that had been wasted by water and mud. The younger one, the one that now lives back here in Europe, volunteered (and was half of the two out of 200 applicants selected) for the UN War Crimes Tribunal in Sierra Leone in West Africa. Apples and trees................

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
18. She sounds like she's the best of her profession
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:31 PM
Sep 2021

dealing with a devastating circumstances. It is not her failure to bear. Wishing you both peace.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. I don't believe in collective failure. We were never one.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:36 PM
Sep 2021

Some have always believed in a nation of equal people free to pursue their happiness and others have always opposed that. The majority on whom civilization has always depended has failed in this era, though, to contain those who'd destroy it.

I'm very grateful to your wife and others like her for their extra special contributions to everyone's wellbeing and to what we can be proud of. We couldn't do without them.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
21. It took me a long time to realize
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

that you can't help someone that doesn't want to help themselves.........

The nation's health care workers should rise up and consider, in masse, refusing to take care of individuals who refused to be vaccinated. Tough love, but I can't understand why someone should be forced to wear themselves out, physically and emotionally and risk death themselves to help the ones that won't get vaccinated for no real reason......

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
59. I agree
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:51 AM
Sep 2021

I understand their oath, but in desperate times... We need consequences for those idiots who choose to not protect their fellow American and themselves. Personally, I would suggest making another Andersonville and tossing them all into it. But that is just me.

AllaN01Bear

(18,159 posts)
22. i hope when and if i have to go to the er there is room for me as i am afib.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

rates normaly 140-150. bpm.

summer_in_TX

(2,733 posts)
24. That is so disappointing, I know.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:39 PM
Sep 2021

What is happening now in America (with COVID and the damage Trump has done to our country) is devastating.

mudstump

(342 posts)
27. Please thank your wife....
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:48 PM
Sep 2021

for all the hard work she is putting into her care of others. My son is a nurse as well, and I am in awe of the medical professionals who are giving everything they have to their patients. Please let her know that she has tremendous support from so many people who want to lift her spirits and support her and her colleagues in this dire time.

jimfields33

(15,775 posts)
31. Your wife has done a remarkable job for Idaho.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:55 PM
Sep 2021

It’s at the bottom in terms of deaths over the last almost two years and really an overall small amount of positives compared to the rest of the country. Remind her that she’s doing Idaho proud.

greblach

(257 posts)
39. She is a Hero!
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:41 PM
Sep 2021

While she is doing great work, Idaho hospitals are now rationing care (death panels anyone?) due to the state government's lackadaisical attitude to reasonable public health precautions...And so now they are sending many patients across the border to Washington (who has for the most part managed it responsibly, and is not happy with this)...Healthcare staff burnout is a real thing... We will never get through this without a more concerted effort by everybody...we are not over it by a long shot yet...

MLAA

(17,282 posts)
32. Please give these extra hugs to your wife and thank her all she does on the front line.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:57 PM
Sep 2021

I can’t imagine her angst and pain. She is a true heroine.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
33. I completely empathize with your wife and her feelings. When I left my last duty station....
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:57 PM
Sep 2021

...... in the deep south in 1969. As a human, I thought I had seen the last of racial hated. As a military medic, I thought I had seen the last of wars and deciding who lives and dies based on triage in an overwhelming mass casualty.

Today I woke up to two stories on DU that saddened me because the country doesn't seem to have moved forward. In fact, it appears to be willfully moving in backward.

Tell your wife the country needs more folks like her in all professions.

And as to the second referenced DU OP of the day here is my comments.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=681876

panader0

(25,816 posts)
34. Your wife is a hero.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:59 PM
Sep 2021

Her job is made much more difficult by guys like this Idaho doctor, now on a health board, that
thinks vaccines are fake.
https://democraticunderground.com/100215864682

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
35. Another tragic result of being lockstep with stupid.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:11 PM
Sep 2021

This is so well said:

"As we all are in some way or other, she is yet another victim of our collective failure to come together while using science and work positively towards doing what needs to be done."

The idea that we are the "United" States of America is pathetic. A cruel joke. And cruel jokes are going to destroy what's left of us. Or with any luck wake us up.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. We're basically in a second Civil War at this point...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:21 PM
Sep 2021

…on so many levels. As if the first one ever really ended.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
50. I totally agree. How does this one end?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:20 PM
Sep 2021

I just watched a bit of "Other People's Money". A very real life look at free enterprise and abuse of the system in a moment in time of 1991. Abuse became mainstream as more and more we lack real acknowledgement of "promoting the general welfare" as stated in the preamble of our Constitution.

"The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government. Promotion of the general welfare is also a stated purpose in state constitutions and statutes."

We really must make this an issue and use a bullhorn when stressing its importance.

Sidebar: A supposedly funny line in the 1991 movie referenced the people abusing the system either behind bars like Milkin for racketeering or "Trump is waiting tables".

The movie gets it right in that the abuser prevails. I do think the people manipulated to hate libs have been thoroughly brainwashed if they aren't out there abusing our system of government. The response to being called "libtard" should be "You're nothing but a tool of the greediest people in the world".

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
36. I am tired of this.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:20 PM
Sep 2021

It is time to treat adults who have selfishly, ignorantly, and stupidly refused to get vaccinated as lepers when they inevitably get sick. They do not get priority for any medical care, especially in an emergency setting. They should not complicate the jobs of health care workers, nor jeopardize the lives of those who seek care for other dire medical issues.

They made their choice by listening to Fox, Trump, the voices in their heads, whatever. Let them now live with that choice. Or not. They are the ones holding us all hostage with this disease.

I’m sick of this bullshit. And I’m so sorry for your wife.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
38. I wish I could hug your dear hero of a wife...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:25 PM
Sep 2021

But since I cannot, please hug her for me. She absolutely did not fail. She is operating in a system stacked against competent caring people. I am sick and sad she and others are going through this.

Response to yonder (Original post)

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
42. She did her part for humanity. Humanity is lucky to have her. She is a great spirit.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

We are all better off for her work, skill, empathy, heart and commitment to doing her best.

We all hug and thank her and you, too.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
43. She is a hero, a saint, an angel. She stands for healing
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:13 PM
Sep 2021

in a dark time. A light in the darkness. Her life is a life well lived. After the chaos, may she recharge in her retirement and experience the peaceful beauty of this world as her reward for she deserves this.
☮️

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
44. My daughter is getting more disillusioned by the day.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:25 PM
Sep 2021

She told me today that even if she can get a couple days off for Thanksgiving, she is not going to be part of the family gathering this year. She would not be able to sit at a table where her unvaccinated brother and my brother, a Republican, are talking about crap they know nothing about. The hospital where she is working has started putting patients in the parking garage because all the rooms are full. It is their new triage center. So she does not want to hear s**t. As she put it, she doesn't have the energy to keep her mouth shut let alone enough to argue.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
47. Regardless of what her brother and uncle say,
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:57 PM
Sep 2021

who would even WANT to attend an indoor gathering and dinner with unvaccinated people?

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
45. Please give her our love
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:31 PM
Sep 2021

It won't help much, but it's all I can do as well as making calls to support Dem candidates.

KatK

(185 posts)
52. Sending her empathy and respect. Incomprehensibly awful what health care workers are enduring... n/t
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

susanr516

(1,425 posts)
53. Health care employees are true heroes
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:11 PM
Sep 2021

They have spent the last 18 months in a virtual war zone. They're burned out. They have PTSD from what they've experienced. We're in TX and every health care professional I know have told me the sickest patients they have are all unvaccinated. They're frustrated and every one of them has said, "This was preventable," when they talk about the current wave of infections here.

NH Ethylene

(30,809 posts)
54. I just can't imagine how hard it is for her, and others like her, during this Covid surge.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:39 PM
Sep 2021

I don't even know how they do it. They really are the heroes of our day.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
55. Please thank her for us here.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:02 PM
Sep 2021

We understand the pressure and the heartbreak that goes with a really hard job and essential like hers.

Please thank her for her bravery, strength, and whatever stamina she has left.

tavernier

(12,380 posts)
56. It's time for nurses to say, Bullshit! You abandoned us!
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:17 PM
Sep 2021

We are here, have always been. And will be.

Yes a lot of nurses and other healthcare workers are leaving because they have their own families to consider, and that is as it should be. But enough will stay so that you can get vaccinated.

Well… hopefully…

brewens

(13,574 posts)
57. I'm in Lewiston. Tomorrow there is a terrorist sympathizer, COVIDiot, flag humpin' hootenanny
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:42 PM
Sep 2021

at Pioneer Park. That's about two blocks from our slammed hospital, St. Joe's. Gonna show us how patriotic they are again.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
60. Republicans are now creating their death panels.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:57 AM
Sep 2021

Republicans are now creating their death panels.

GOP used to claim they were against them.

Takket

(21,561 posts)
61. She's a hero and her patriot for her service to the public.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

Please send her my love. She should feel nothing but ride in a fantastic career!

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