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imanamerican63

(13,744 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 PM Sep 2021

Now, there is a story being reported that Biden's 19 century ancestors owned 3 slaves.

I am lost for words. It was not Joe’s family who owned slaves. The GOPers are trying everything they can think of! If someone say that about Trump, well I hate to hear the repercussions from that? I had a distant relative who beheaded people in England in the 1800’s, so I am bad person for that? Give me a break!

Of course, the story from Business Insider

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Now, there is a story being reported that Biden's 19 century ancestors owned 3 slaves. (Original Post) imanamerican63 Sep 2021 OP
So GOPers, trump's dad was a klansman and bet so were dads of folks spreading BS. Hoyt Sep 2021 #1
Hardly surprising if he had Maryland ancestors Klaralven Sep 2021 #2
Not sure what that implies about Joe. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #3
Big deal Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #5
So? We aren't responsible for the sins and crimes of our ancestors. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #6
WHO is reporting this story? brooklynite Sep 2021 #7
This is the only place I've heard it. Treefrog Sep 2021 #28
So are they criticizing his ancestor for only owning 3 slaves? DBoon Sep 2021 #8
TFG's grandfather ran a brothel in the Yukon in the late 19th century. If you want to tell me that RockRaven Sep 2021 #9
Are they asking him to apologize for the past? ColinC Sep 2021 #10
He'd better not!! NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #14
My ancestors owned slaves, too, and fought the Civil War in order to keep them. Aristus Sep 2021 #11
and to that i say YAWN (not to you posting this but to those who want to make it a "thing") nt orleans Sep 2021 #12
I had ancestors who owned slaves left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #13
Not this again Moebym Sep 2021 #15
Mine did own slaves in Tennessee.. ananda Sep 2021 #16
Mine didn't, mainly because Retrograde Sep 2021 #17
Well, I guess if Tara Reade didn't work, and Biden has no great personal wealth DFW Sep 2021 #18
Well we should impeach those ancestors of course. yellowcanine Sep 2021 #19
I heard he use to use leaded gas too. pwb Sep 2021 #20
Barack Obama's ancestors owned slaves too, on his... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #21
Obama is a descendant of Jefferson Davis and a cousin of Dick Cheney. cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #24
Even if it was, how would this be HIS fault? whathehell Sep 2021 #22
That's exactly what the right says about reparations. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #26
Fault is the point when they attribute it to Biden's family. whathehell Sep 2021 #29
To which I reply, "Then anyone who inherited wealth... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #35
And TFG's grandfather was a human sex trafficker Generic Brad Sep 2021 #23
Hopefully that's not true. But if it is fescuerescue Sep 2021 #25
Sounds like a great opportunity to talk about how generational wealth gets passed in some families WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #27
Mine did, too. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #30
Ladies and Gentlemen vercetti2021 Sep 2021 #31
So what!?! myccrider Sep 2021 #32
Obviously, no one is responsible for his ancestors. However, the first Biden who came to the US, pnwmom Sep 2021 #33
Business Insider, owned by the German version of Murdoch... Spazito Sep 2021 #34
And Trumpies ancestor owned prostitutes.... Ellipsis Sep 2021 #36
 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. Hardly surprising if he had Maryland ancestors
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:23 PM
Sep 2021
Biden's great-great-great-grandfather, Jesse Robinett was listed as owning two slaves in Allegany County, Maryland, in the 1800 census, Bannerman found.

Records from the 1850 Census and slave schedules also show that Biden's 3rd-great-grandfather, Thomas Randle, owned a 14-year-old male slave in Baltimore County, Maryland, Bannerman said, with the 1860 Census still showing Randle owning one person after the family moved to a different part of the county.


https://www.businessinsider.com/genealogist-finds-evidence-that-biden-ancestors-owned-slaves-politico-2021-9

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Ocelot II

(115,610 posts)
6. So? We aren't responsible for the sins and crimes of our ancestors.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:31 PM
Sep 2021

I am the descendant of Vikings, who infamously owned and trafficked in slaves, as well as of a family of smugglers and god knows how many other reprobates. I did not inherit those crimes. Many Americans had ancestors who owned slaves in this country, and very few of them are slavery advocates or apologists.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
8. So are they criticizing his ancestor for only owning 3 slaves?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:46 PM
Sep 2021

Because if the ancestor had any ambition, he would have owned more?

RockRaven

(14,910 posts)
9. TFG's grandfather ran a brothel in the Yukon in the late 19th century. If you want to tell me that
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:49 PM
Sep 2021

those women were happy independent contractors in a libertarian paradise and not de facto chattel, you are out of your goddamned mind. And the GOP has nothing to say about that matter, except to get righteously indignant if anyone brings it up. And as with a stopped clock, they happen to be right if only by accident of circumstances.

TFG is a repugnant piece of shit, but he has nothing to answer for when it comes to Frederick (Friedrich) Trump's actions. Answering for his own actions would be enough -- if anyone ever actually held him to account, that is.

And as it turns out, despite being only two generations of lineal descent apart TFG never personally knew his grandfather because -- and here's a little ironic Trump-virus tidbit -- he died from the 1918 flu pandemic.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
11. My ancestors owned slaves, too, and fought the Civil War in order to keep them.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:54 PM
Sep 2021

If they knew their descendent was a far-left, pro-diversity, pro-civil rights, pro-LGBTQ, pro-socialism liberal, they'd turn over in their graves.

So the only question here is: So what about Joe Biden's ancestors?...

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. I had ancestors who owned slaves
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:35 AM
Sep 2021

Someone did a history of my mother's ancestors.
One family living in Kentucky around 1820 owned three slaves

They never got around to checking my father's ancestors,
but he told us they were all horse thieves

Moebym

(989 posts)
15. Not this again
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:49 AM
Sep 2021

Some on the right (and far left) tried to smear now-VP Harris by pointing out that she likely had white plantation owner ancestors on her father's side.

So what?

ananda

(28,837 posts)
16. Mine did own slaves in Tennessee..
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:54 AM
Sep 2021

before they came to Texas.

Ugghh

You can probably guess that some
of my current relatives are racist
Magats.

Double uggghh

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
17. Mine didn't, mainly because
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:06 AM
Sep 2021

they didn't show up in the US until about 1890. My siblings like to claim that we're descended from a wealthy east European landowner, but I think it's more likely we're descended from his many serfs. The Constitution actually forbids corruption of blood -we're not responsible for the sins of our ancestors. If Biden's were slave-owners - well, they don't seem to have passed any of that wealth down to him.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
18. Well, I guess if Tara Reade didn't work, and Biden has no great personal wealth
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:22 AM
Sep 2021

They don’t have much left, do they?

I’m always terrified that some day I’ll find out that one of my ancestors was cruel to a mastodon as recently as the last Ice Age.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
21. Barack Obama's ancestors owned slaves too, on his...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:30 AM
Sep 2021

... mother's side.

It was prevalent enough in this country's past that it can be a challenge to NOT find a few slave owners among the numerous ancestors who lived on this land, pre-Civil War.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
24. Obama is a descendant of Jefferson Davis and a cousin of Dick Cheney.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:41 AM
Sep 2021

I mean he is actually only one of the few recent presidents whose family wealth can be tied to slavery. (Most recent ones are from post Civil War immigrants or northerners.)

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
29. Fault is the point when they attribute it to Biden's family.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:16 PM
Sep 2021

My understanding of Reparations, which I support, by the way, is that it would be a collective effort undertaken by the country as a whole.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
35. To which I reply, "Then anyone who inherited wealth...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:01 PM
Sep 2021

... from past slaveowners don't deserve that, either. They can't keep the benefits while absolving themselves of blame too."

The focus is more on the present that way.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
25. Hopefully that's not true. But if it is
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:44 AM
Sep 2021

A heartfelt apology from Biden would probably be a good boost to his approval numbers.

Maybe also make a donation to BLM.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,309 posts)
27. Sounds like a great opportunity to talk about how generational wealth gets passed in some families
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:49 AM
Sep 2021

and not others, reparations, the complicated and ugly history of this nation and other CRT topics!

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
31. Ladies and Gentlemen
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

DESPERATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who's fucking ancestors that were white didn't own slaves?

myccrider

(484 posts)
32. So what!?!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:38 PM
Sep 2021

90% of my ancestors are from the South starting around 1635. Some of them were slave owners. More than half of my great-grandfathers fought for the Confederacy (the others volunteered for the Union even though they lived in TN & TX). As much as it pains me to know about the slaves, it’s NOT.MY.FAULT!!!!!!!

What a ridiculous thing to go after Biden about, but idiotic misdirection is all the Repugnants have left.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
33. Obviously, no one is responsible for his ancestors. However, the first Biden who came to the US,
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:09 PM
Sep 2021

who died in 1849, was a stonemason in Baltimore. Not likely to be a slave owner.

https://www.findmypast.com/blog/discoveries/joe-biden-family-history

Spazito

(50,167 posts)
34. Business Insider, owned by the German version of Murdoch...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:16 PM
Sep 2021

Axel Springer, whose publishing house just bought out Politico. Same trash as Murdoch's rags, imo.

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