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Unfortunately, as much as it sounds like satire, it isn't.
https://livingbluetx.com/2021/09/domestic-terrorist-next-door/
ItsjustMe
(11,226 posts)cilla4progress
(24,717 posts)be surprised
LeftInTX
(25,123 posts)I personally don't like platform, so I don't spend any time there...
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)I dont know if I could do it again. It was really draining. It affected my mood and energy.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)deurbano
(2,894 posts)We used to have one of "those people" living on the next block, and couldn't help but notice the grass died under his McCain sign! Even the soil here is hostile to them. (And that was before they completely jumped the shark; I've never seen a Tump lawn sign here.)
Demobrat
(8,960 posts)Thats what I thought until I looked at Nextdoor.
deurbano
(2,894 posts)in the more traditional ways (at least in my neighborhood), through lawn signs and bumper stickers... or with those now common flags. In terms of that kind of self-branding, the 13% of SF voters who chose TFG were on the "down low"... and we never had any problems with our own lawn signs getting stolen (for example), as happened to my MIL in Modesto. (We usually only look for the coyote sightings on Nextdoor!)
I know what you mean about having one idea of people, and then (sadly) discovering you gave them too much credit. I don't have Facebook, but everyone in my family does, and after TFG gave so many the permission to let their freak flags fly (and finally reveal their true selves), the realization of the kind of views some family members and friends had been keeping hidden under a thin layer of civility has been shocking (and extremely disheartening). I first encountered that sense of surprise and disillusionment in an AOL forum for mothers of babies born in August, 1998. After forging this online friendship through our common bond, it was disorienting and very disappointing to discover the political views of some of these women when it became clear the 2000 election would come down to Florida. It also was the first time I saw the imbalance in terms of how much more "in your face" some of the (newly revealed) Republicans would then behave compared to the Democrats, who mostly wanted to keep politics out of our forum. I was by far the most outspoken from the Dem side... but the stuff i posted didn't include anything like their crude "jokes" (like about Hillary Clinton as a KFC order: "two thighs and no breasts" ) ... or blatant lies from those early mass email disinformation campaigns (like a debunked list of things Al Gore was supposed to have done that proved he was a "pathological liar" ). Some of these future MAGAts already felt much freer to proclaim their partisan views, and were already heavily influenced by online persuasion efforts that left them steeped in those kinds of "jokes" and hoax email messages in ways that convinced them that their views were the only commonly held ones, and also the only legitimate ones. They already saw politics as a kind of war, with Democrats the enemy, and that meant they were justified in being rude and obnoxious. I have to say I was (naively) shocked that they didn't give a flying f#ck about the intentions of Florida voters ("butterfly" ballots, for ex)... since it all just came down to winning. (By any means necessary.) That was actually a good preview of what elections would come to mean for MAGAts: they no longer even pretend to care about democracy.
Moebym
(989 posts)She's posted some truly frightening stuff on Facebook.
Even more frightening is the fact that she knows my parents are Democrats. As far as I know, however, she's very civil with them when she sees them in person.
To be fair, though, she's been going through some difficult times that have to do with the health of her family members, so I'm hoping her Facebook posts are no more than letting off of steam.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)aren't so brave alone, and tend to choose vulnerable victims, lone adults, and yes, women and children. Hopefully any family who feel as she does are the ones with health problems. Her civil behavior face to face sounds typical. They typically consider themselves very good, respectable people.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)to have a pretty friendly relationship with them. Heck, they're even vaccinated.
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)First one that puts a hand on me.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)any conspiracy theory that Vladimir Putin throws at them.
If these mentally deranged misanthropes only knew who was leading them to all this violent dumbfuckery.......would they care?
I don't think so. All they want to do is kill people. That's their perceived "power". This is the ultimate conclusion of America's gun culture.Their worship of all things gun leads nowhere but here, killing everyone who doesn't agree with their extremely narrow and violent point of view.
Thank you NRA. Thank you Smith and Wesson. Thank you Glock. Thank you Charter Arms. Thank you Winchester. etc. etc. etc.
You've all turned this country into a death cult. Insane, armed, and ready to murder anyone who doesn't share Russia's intention of defeating the United States of America from within.
By uniting the country's terrified mental defectives into a cult of guns, and allegiance to an equally mentally defective, orange egomaniac, Russia will defeat this country without ever firing a single shot of their own.
DFW
(54,277 posts)Not too many members of the Republican Party here in Düsseldorf, so I guess I'm safe from them for now.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)DFW
(54,277 posts)"They think that the Covid vaccine will change your DNA and turn you into something unhuman."
A fanatic Republican is worried about being turned into something unhuman? As though being turned into a homicidal maniac by Fox Noise and National Hate Radio makes you a perfectly normal human, right..........
Duppers
(28,117 posts)There were a call for action, he'd do it. Seriously.
He's 3 doors down, an ex-cop, and keeps a black American flag hanging at his driveway.* He also has very high-wattage security lights around his house at night.
Just a few nights ago my husband said a huge flash went off when he was walking our dog passed this guy's house. He's making random photos of innocent folks just passing on the street. The neighborhood knows we're Democratic, btw.
A great deal of our neighborhood are ex-military but he's the only one we fear might actually take action against us minority Dems if the call were made.
Hubby feels the need to purchase a shotgun & ammo.
* The article mentions such flags:
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Covid makes it hard, but maybe try to warm up relations with other neighbors and any friendships around the neighborhood? Just chatting in the street would be a show of strength.
A very pleasant neighbor who lost his lovely wife last year turned out to believe righteous armies need to turn out to save America from evil ones (apparently God can't handle it). Lots of conspiracism, names and terms we've never heard, and Michele Bachmann messages -- suggesting that "army" lacks a male leader right now. Thank goodness for that at least. We're Democrats and my husband's Jewish in a deep red county. My husband visits and keeps up the relationship, and he now has a new relationship we hope is with someone more rational. We do have a shotgun and ammo.
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)duhneece
(4,110 posts)Thats Couy Griffin who said that, my Cowboys for Trump leader. He knows that I turned in the first official Ethics Complaint I will look for a black flag.
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)gordianot
(15,233 posts)I tend to take directed threats seriously. So far all I hear are mobster tactics and for the most part Republicans do not have the big stick.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We saw that with some of the groups that came out for 1/6 and to riot in response to the #BLM marches last summer.
tRump's of course most positioned to create another situation in which he, and others, would call for large or widespread local violence. Easy to imagine a main group going to take over the county courthouse while others went to set targeted houses on fire.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)I live in a very small town and we help each other out. Plus my extended family, many of whom live within walking distance of me, would defend me even though several of them are Republicans themselves.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Kaleva
(36,248 posts)At least in my town.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It'd be the same here. We have friends, but no family nearby and don't belong to a church, and we don't live in town and are fairly isolated. All things that could invite targeting. We don't actually worry about it, though. If we did feel the need for support, we'd turn to friends with lots of family around like yours. About then we'd probably hook up the travel trailer and go fishing instead.
temporary311
(955 posts)If they're anti-vax, you shouldn't count on that.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)resigning from the military in significant numbers to avoid vaccination/"caving to the libs," then running around angry and victimized.
The 485,900 soldiers on active duty must be vaccinated by Dec. 15. But the 336,500 National Guard and 189,800 Reserve troops have until June 30, 2022, to be fully inoculated.
As of Tuesday, about 80% of active-duty soldiers had received at least one vaccine dose, according to an Army spokesperson. However, the National Guard and Reserve dont have accurate numbers for how much of their forces are vaccinated, given many of those troops receive vaccines outside of the military. ...
Soldiers who refuse vaccinations will be counseled by their chain of command. Such counseling typically involves starting a paper trail and having a discussion with the service member ... But continued failure to comply with the order "could result in administrative or non-judicial punishment -- to include relief of duties or discharge," ... largely seen as career killers, to be initiated ... A discharge can cost a soldier their benefits, including the GI Bill.
Those seeking waivers to avoid immunization essentially have two options: medical or religious exemptions, according to Sean Timmons, an attorney with the Houston-based law firm Tully Rinckey.
The military is a relatively young, healthy community whose members already have received numerous vaccines, so most people are "not going to have the ability to be granted a medical waiver," Timmons said.
A religious exemption may be more likely, he said, if the person can demonstrate that their religious practice compels them to be morally opposed to vaccination. However, no major religion has come out against the COVID-19 vaccine or vaccines in general. ... "You'd probably want to show them that you haven't gotten certain vaccinations or, if you are new to the service, that this would be consistent with your prior history," Seiner said during an interview. ...
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm not worried about these dysfunctional jerks running people out, and even murdering, with impunity, as they so eagerly imagine. But it's all too possible that here and there people will be hurt, including them, before this is quashed.
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)I didn't even know the political affiliations of most of the people until I happened to look at the election donations database. That said, I do know the guy in the mini-estate across the road is a libertarian and a family down the road had a million Biden signs in their yard. I doubt they'd kill me, but you never know. Down another road and about a half mile from my house a young guy went nuts a few years back and stabbed his father to death. I suspect that was more crazy religion based.
czarjak
(11,253 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Why would any sane person want to live there?
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)pwb
(11,246 posts)I can and will defend myself.
Midnight Writer
(21,712 posts)Had some spirited debates on politics and religion, then had a laugh and went our ways.
Nowadays? Goddamn, they get their backs up in a hurry. I thought I was going to get punched the other day (because I said the Swift Boaters were phony).
People who used to smile and say howdy now just glare at me.
Lots of black flags and Oath Keeper crap around here.
Hotler
(11,394 posts)That's why it is important for us to kill the filibuster and secure voting rights.
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Semi-Automatic sawed off shotguns are legal in our state, and we feel they would be the best to counter home invasion, if we should decide to purchase firearms to stop a home invasion by Republicans.
We have a lot of seriously creepy insurrectionist types in our very rural county.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)So I doubt it.
Voltaire2
(12,957 posts)I dont think there is an organized effort to plan mass executions, yet. But, if you think Rwanda cant happen here, youre wrong. Shit can go sideways very quickly.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)I know, an orthopedic surgeon is SO downtrodden! Amirite? At least, so far, he hasnt flown one of those black-on-black flags.
traitorsgalore
(1,393 posts)Texas needs to secede from the U.S. and I fully expect them to seriously consider it next year. I hope they get the F out and then beg to come back as the U.S. continually says no.
AmBlue
(3,103 posts)....THIS is exactly why I and other Democrats I know are becoming uncomfortable putting up yard signs and bumper stickers at election time. The bastards relentlessly tear them down but, most importantly, I don't want my family to be tagged and harassed (or worse) by these creeps!!
But you better believe we always VOTE.... and will NEVER miss an election.
LowerManhattanite
(2,385 posts)THIS is precisely what the right wings rabid support for the second amendment has morphed into since Nixons infamous Silent Majority/Law & Order campaign.
The GOP think tanks and the lot have been predicting the demographics shift in this country for the last 50 years. This is where the money has gone into these organizations for all this time. To predict where the shift was going to happen and what to do to counteract it. Notice I didnt say stop it.
It was as inexorable as gravity.
The push for getting guns into the hands of as many people on the right as humanly possible has absolutely nothing to do with that mantra of militias being there in the police of a tyrannical government. In this age of pushbutton warfare, there is nothing that A so-called militia can do against a drone flying overhead using crowd suppression technology. These people have no intention of standing there and fighting house to house against the army per se.
The accumulation of these weapons is for a spite campaign of violence against neighbors who would dare embrace whatever is NOT on the right. These weapons are meant to terrorize a citizenry that isnt down with their program. To in essence set themselves up as local American Taliban warlords controlling their own little local fiefdoms.
And if need be? Making examples out of people. They feel theyll be able to get away with it because of the mass infiltration in local law enforcement of these types. They feel they wont be punished.
The guns arent there to fight off a government. Theyre to be used against fellow Americans they dont like. Plain and simple.