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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:27 AM Sep 2021

English man finds hidden passageways, secret rooms behind bookshelf in family home

A man from Sussex, England recently found what used to be a door hidden behind a bookshelf leading to a series of underground tunnels that led to various secret rooms left closed for decades, maybe centuries. The New York Post reports that the family of 23-year-old Freddy Goodall has lived on the estate for roughly 500 years. As Goodall perused through some old photos featuring the home’s library, he noticed something strange: a doorway that was nowhere to be found in the modern day was clearly pictured years ago in black-and-white.

This was an even more interesting discovery, as Goodall realized a wall behind some of the books he was clearing out earlier seemed hollow. “I searched for it but couldn’t see anything at first, then realized it was hidden behind a bookshelf,” says Goodall to Jam Press. “Eventually behind one of the books, I found a hole that looked into the hidden room.”

Indeed—after entering the first hidden room, Goodall pulled up a part of the floor that revealed a ladder going underground to old, cobweb-covered tunnels that led to even more hidden rooms. The U.S. Sun continues to report that cobwebs (and a huge wasp’s nest) weren’t the only things the secret rooms contained: Goodall also found a number of old books and other writings, including a letter from 1887.

It is believed the tunnels were used by servants to carry out their duties unnoticed by the lords and ladies of the home.

https://www.pennlive.com/life/2021/09/english-man-finds-hidden-passageways-secret-rooms-behind-bookshelf-in-family-home-watch.html



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English man finds hidden passageways, secret rooms behind bookshelf in family home (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 OP
Not buying it - this has vampires written all over it. underpants Sep 2021 #1
Definitely vampires!!! CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #27
Thank you. 🧛‍♂️ underpants Sep 2021 #41
definately good looking, sexy vampires .... Trueblue1968 Sep 2021 #66
fyi .... some vampire news Trueblue1968 Sep 2021 #67
I've Had that Dream Many Times-Is it a Common Dream? Stallion Sep 2021 #2
Dreams about your home are usually dreams about your body nuxvomica Sep 2021 #14
I have a recurring dream about an endless attic. forgotmylogin Sep 2021 #15
Hmmm. Time to find a Jungian analyst. Hekate Sep 2021 #20
That one is about your brain. Lochloosa Sep 2021 #21
Could be a metaphor for your life in general. wnylib Sep 2021 #28
A Realtor Would Think of Extra SF and Bedrooms for the Listing Stallion Sep 2021 #43
Hm! Very thought provoking! forgotmylogin Sep 2021 #55
Me too utopian Sep 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #17
What dream? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2021 #46
I have that dream every now and then. alphafemale Sep 2021 #59
Its unlikely that they were servants' passages and more likely to be SharonClark Sep 2021 #3
yup nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #8
GMTA Hekate Sep 2021 #22
Or for smuggled goods, if it's old enough and close enough to the coast ms liberty Sep 2021 #26
Yep, Priest Holes, especially if these were build around Elizabethan Times. They are all over smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #40
Exactly canetoad Sep 2021 #63
That was my first thought as well. Ilsa Sep 2021 #64
One of my ex's friends had a house.. luvs2sing Sep 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #18
How big is your home if you don't notice that there must be more rooms? mcar Sep 2021 #5
My friend Will Navidson had this experience. Dr. Strange Sep 2021 #16
House of Leaves! Action_Patrol Sep 2021 #30
:) Dr. Strange Sep 2021 #50
How big is your home that you don't wnylib Sep 2021 #24
Yeah, I saw that. mcar Sep 2021 #29
Unused and forgotten. With that many rooms, wnylib Sep 2021 #36
It's hard to see what's not there underpants Sep 2021 #42
The house I used to own has a little room behind the built-in buffet Ocelot II Sep 2021 #6
How long has your ex lived there? ret5hd Sep 2021 #9
LOL! Ocelot II Sep 2021 #10
Maybe it was for the underground railroad. Sogo Sep 2021 #33
In Minneapolis? And the house dates from 1906, so no. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #34
priest hole nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #7
Cool. tanyev Sep 2021 #11
Upstairs, Downstairs, and REALLY downstairs. Captain Zero Sep 2021 #12
If my home looked like that I'd want a place to hide too! bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #13
Fascinating! The photo is so visually cluttered I can't see the door in question, tho Hekate Sep 2021 #19
500 years of accumulation will do that. niyad Sep 2021 #25
More, including video, at The Sun muriel_volestrangler Sep 2021 #23
I watched the video. Sogo Sep 2021 #37
Video continues here: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2021 #47
Did he find Narnia? That's really cool. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #31
Put the candle back! KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2021 #32
1+ keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #35
Really interesting.I'd like to see more still photos from today, as the spaces seem to be utility... Hekate Sep 2021 #38
My stepson bought a house in N PA that has hidden rooms and passages. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #44
I grew up in a big 150 y/o house used in the underground railroad, secret rooms in walls in cellar Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #45
You saw ghosts? /nt wackadoo wabbit Sep 2021 #60
Non malevolant presences, my sisters said I talked about my campanions all the time Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #61
It sounds as if you are definitely a sensitive wackadoo wabbit Sep 2021 #68
Was there a Bat Pole? Roland99 Sep 2021 #48
Did you read the linked article ? left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #49
Never saw Batman as a child? Roland99 Sep 2021 #51
No I never saw Batman as a child left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #52
Ha Roland99 Sep 2021 #58
Wow Catherine Vincent Sep 2021 #53
I would never leave that room! Poiuyt Sep 2021 #54
a letter from 1887 isn't that old if the rooms have been closed off... Grasswire2 Sep 2021 #56
1887 ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #57
yes, but the dwelliing is much much older. Grasswire2 Sep 2021 #69
Aren't we supposed to hate the fact that he has such a large family estate? brooklynite Sep 2021 #62
I don't know left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #65

underpants

(182,736 posts)
1. Not buying it - this has vampires written all over it.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:30 AM
Sep 2021

Just kidding. Very interesting.


Whether Mr. Body was murdered by Mr. Green with the candlestick in the library remains unconfirmed.

Trueblue1968

(17,203 posts)
67. fyi .... some vampire news
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:53 AM
Sep 2021

A reboot of teen vampire classic 'The Lost Boys' is on the way
Nothing is sacred, and that could explain why Warner Bros has plans to resurrect the 1987 teen vampire classic The Lost Boys.

Originally directed by Joel Schumacher, who passed away aged 80 last year, the horror-comedy is set to be reimagined with starring roles for Honey Boy’s Noah Jupe, and Jaeden Martell (of It and Knives Out).

Beyond the fact that it’s directed by filmmaker John Entwistle (The End of the F***ing World), with a script by Randy McKinnon, details about the reboot are fairly scarce.

According to the Hollywood Reporter, however, its setting — a fictional California beach town in the midst of being terrorized by a vampiric biker gang — is being updated for the modern day.

At: https://www.dazeddigital.com/film-tv/article/54210/1/a-reboot-of-teen-vampire-classic-the-lost-boys-is-on-the-way-noah-jupe

nuxvomica

(12,419 posts)
14. Dreams about your home are usually dreams about your body
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:14 PM
Sep 2021

I had a complete Lyme panel once that was all negative though I had all the symptoms (except a rash) and had been in the woods three weeks before. That night, I dreamt about a secret passage in my home that contained a dragon. My reaction in the dream was "That's contrary to science! There are no such things as dragons!" The next day, I was sure it was about the failure of the scientific test to recognize the infection. My doctor put me on doxycycline because had just learned that the false-negative rate for the Lyme panel was very high, and the symptoms cleared up in a few days.

So when you have that dream, make note of what you find.

forgotmylogin

(7,524 posts)
15. I have a recurring dream about an endless attic.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021

I go up in the creepy attic filled with artifacts (it's creepy in a good way, I love that aesthetic) and keep finding more doors that lead to other attics and it goes on and on.

I always feel like I *want* to explore, but I fear getting lost or intruding on other people's property somehow? It never feels like my house, but a mansion I've discovered by accident. In the dream I usually backtrack, close the doors, and plan to explore carefully later, marveling at how lucky I am to find all this.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
28. Could be a metaphor for your life in general.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:12 PM
Sep 2021

People, careers, paths to consider exploring. Opportunities and directions you might go in, plus a hint to what's holding you back - not wanting to disturb other people.

Response to nuxvomica (Reply #14)

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
3. Its unlikely that they were servants' passages and more likely to be
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:36 AM
Sep 2021

a hiding place or escape route for Catholic priests.

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
26. Or for smuggled goods, if it's old enough and close enough to the coast
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sep 2021

If his family has lived there for 500 years, then that's certainly old enough for the French Revolution and the heyday of smuggling, and Sussex is the right county for it..

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
64. That was my first thought as well.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:21 PM
Sep 2021

Perhaps it was just a built-in escape route from authorities. Maybe the family was involved in smuggling or pirating hundreds of years ago.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
4. One of my ex's friends had a house..
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:46 AM
Sep 2021

with a mystery room above the garage. There was no way to get into the room, but when the sun shined through the window at just the right angle, you could see a wooden rocker near the window.

After a couple years of speculation and ghost stories, ex, his friend, and friend’s father who was a building contractor, figured out there was probably once an opening to this room from the top of the stairs in the house. One weekend, they tore the wall out and, sure enough, there was the room, the old wooden rocker, an old crib, and some random books and magazines from the early 1940s. Nothing unusual. They ended up finishing the room, and it became a great playroom once they had kids.

Response to luvs2sing (Reply #4)

mcar

(42,296 posts)
5. How big is your home if you don't notice that there must be more rooms?
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:59 AM
Sep 2021

Also, I highly doubt servants would carry the silver tea service up a ladder - even back in days of yore.

Still, the pictured old room is awesome.

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
16. My friend Will Navidson had this experience.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021

He kept telling me how his house was bigger on the inside and he kept finding rooms that hadn't been there before, or huge rooms that were way too big to exist inside the house.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
24. How big is your home that you don't
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Sep 2021

notice that there must be more rooms?

Well, the article says that house was in the family for 500 years. That's more likely to happen with with large, well built mansions, than small wood frame houses.

mcar

(42,296 posts)
29. Yeah, I saw that.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:13 PM
Sep 2021

One would think, however, that there would be some record, since the house has been in the family for 500 years.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
36. Unused and forgotten. With that many rooms,
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021

I guess it's possible. Not talked about after a few generations, so a modern person would not think to look for records of something he had not heard about.

Old masions are enormous, with only a few rooms used today for daily living. Whole wings can be shut off from use.

Ocelot II

(115,661 posts)
6. The house I used to own has a little room behind the built-in buffet
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:15 AM
Sep 2021

that you could get to by crawling through one of the lower cupboards. It wasn't very big, but you could stand up and move around. My ex still lives there (in the house, not the secret room), and I've encouraged him to buy a life-sized plastic skeleton, dress it in tattered old clothes, and leave it there when he sells the place (if he ever does).

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
9. How long has your ex lived there?
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

Maybe you should let him out. I’m sure, whatever he did, he is very sorry.

Ocelot II

(115,661 posts)
34. In Minneapolis? And the house dates from 1906, so no.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:19 PM
Sep 2021

I think it was just an architectural mistake.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
13. If my home looked like that I'd want a place to hide too!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

It's always about wealth, money, and grandeur isn't it?

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
19. Fascinating! The photo is so visually cluttered I can't see the door in question, tho
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

Off to read the article.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
23. More, including video, at The Sun
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3659784/man-makes-shocking-discovery-mysterious-bookcase/

Not just a priesthole - cellars, that were accessible in the early 20th century, when schoolchildren (it was a school for a bit) signed their names on the bricks.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
32. Put the candle back!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

Put the candle back - Young Frankenstein - Gene Wilder

Someone in Sussex removed the magic candle!


KY..........

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
38. Really interesting.I'd like to see more still photos from today, as the spaces seem to be utility...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:25 PM
Sep 2021

… utility tunnels and maintenance access in the recent century, however they began. So “used by servants” can be loosely applied. I can see pipes, and that “creepy old ladder” is not 500 years old. Someone was accessing the plumbing more recently than half a millennium ago. A scrap of TikTok seems to show a disused wine cellar that he imagines being rehabbed.

This young man would do well to research whatever building and maintenance records there may be, any architectural plans — jeez, the place is 500 years old, so there are bound to be all kinds of records just waiting to be found. A great pile like that needs maintenance in any century.

Given the gigantic wasps’ nest — eww, I think I’d want to send in a modern pest-control guy.



BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
44. My stepson bought a house in N PA that has hidden rooms and passages.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:12 PM
Sep 2021

It has a mounted plaque in the yard, declaring it a national historic site as one of the stops on the underground railroad. It's as cool as the other side of the pillow!

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
45. I grew up in a big 150 y/o house used in the underground railroad, secret rooms in walls in cellar
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:29 PM
Sep 2021

All rotted out by then, of course, I only saw ghosts though, as a kid, no treasure, but I kept looking

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
61. Non malevolant presences, my sisters said I talked about my campanions all the time
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:37 PM
Sep 2021

I was 4 or 5, in the before times, I do recall having an invisible friend with me a lot

Maybe I was just a bit touched, a sensitive, could be

wackadoo wabbit

(1,165 posts)
68. It sounds as if you are definitely a sensitive
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:04 AM
Sep 2021

What a wonderful experience!

I've only ever seen one ghost. I was visiting a friend who had moved into an old, smallish Victorian in San Francisco. As we walked by his bedroom, I looked in and saw an old lady. I knew she wasn't corporeal, so I asked him if he was aware of her. He wasn't, and he totally freaked out. Then he began recounting strange experiences he'd had since he'd moved in there.

As I recall, he didn't stay at that house long.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
52. No I never saw Batman as a child
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:48 PM
Sep 2021

Every movie, TV show, or comic book I saw about Batman showed him as an adult.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
56. a letter from 1887 isn't that old if the rooms have been closed off...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:41 PM
Sep 2021

....and unused for centuries.

1597 would be impressive.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
69. yes, but the dwelliing is much much older.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:28 PM
Sep 2021

Heck. I have old family letters and documents from the late 1800s right here in my home, which is only 100 years old.

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