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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Trump campaign memo proves the insurrection was already underway BEFORE JAN. 6
When I saw this alert hit my phone earlier this afternoon, it was all I could do to keep from screaming out loud what I was thinking at that very momentYou evil sonofabitch! Think about it, folks. The president of the United States damned well knew hed lost, damned well knew that the lies he was spreading were causing Coomer and other innocent third parties to be harassed, trolled, and threatenedAND DIDNT DO A DAMN THING. Now we have hard proof of it. And that also proves that when that mob stormed the Capitol, the insurrection was already underway well before then.
[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/21/2053629/-The-Trump-campaign-memo-proves-the-insurrection-was-already-underway-BEFORE-JAN-6|]
Emphasis mine
The wheels of justice are slow but they get in there in the end. Building blocks that will see them all ensnared. it just takes time.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)If they gain control nothing is going to happen.
gab13by13
(21,256 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Getting control of congress in 2022 might be all the Republicans need. The transition from our liberal democracy to a RW Christian plutocratic autocracy would be like nothing we've ever seen, or been.
Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)gab13by13
(21,256 posts)it's not that he didn't do a damned thing, it's DNA evidence that he was behind the coup attempt, it's DNA evidence that he is still behind the insurrection. He didn't do a damned thing because he didn't want to do a damned thing.
There is a lot of DNA evidence for the select committee to be allowed to call witnesses, subpoena them if necessary, including Congress people, including Trump's former cabinet members, including Trump.
Let the show begin, release the subpoenas.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)away with everything his entire life and now every day . . . again . . . it's breaking news that this is the "smoking gun" to hold him accountable. Where's the New York AG? The Georgia AG? Merrick Garland? Am I going to die before I witness any real Trump accountability? Buehler?????
Escurumbele
(3,378 posts)It is a long time to wait when there is so much proof.
People in this country go to jail for much lesser crimes, if you can call them crimes, and the buffoon, his family, his lawyers are still causing chaos, spreading lies, and roaming around untouched, only threats but no action. It is bloody frustrating!
Walleye
(30,977 posts)Secretary of state is a very important position around the world. For him to treat it like its junior high school was really unbelievable to me
Kid Berwyn
(14,795 posts)Especially how these fascist bastards will keep on trying.
Great summation of the situation, that Kos article and NYT etc. links.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)It touched on his background here and there. Did you know Stalin was part of a gang that robbed banks in his youth, and the loot went to help fund the Bolsheviks?
Why am I telling you this? Insurrections have outside sources of funding, because it takes the will of those trying to seize power for themselves as well as loot to payoff gatekeepers of the old guard trying to choke off the rebellion, and grease the wheels of the ragtag shock troops that carry it out. Think hard on this, the parallels between 1917 and January 6, 2021 are deeply unprobed. 1917 was not like the romance drama in the movies. It is hard history that requires study of background and serious analysis of political, economic, and power dynamics. History doesn't lie and is sloughed off by those trying to repeat it.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)Escurumbele
(3,378 posts)we will have a greater problem in our hands. I believe the buffoon will be a bad memory soon, but those behind him who have learned that the system can be rigged, like Josh Hawley, will be the ones to carry out the destruction that the buffoon could not do. We are in danger territory, and yes the trumps have to pay dearly for their corruption, their treason, but the Hawley of the country must be removed from office, they too have a lot of dirt to account for, so lets find it and not allow those bastards to continue causing damage.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)Chump spent at least 3 weeks (maybe longer) trying to convince Mike Pence that he could/should de-certify the Electors from AZ/PA/WI/MI on January 6th. Chump believed (because he was told by Giuliani and Eastman) that Pence had enough latitude as President of the Senate that he could swing the outcome of the vote. If the Electors from those 4 states (and possibly one other) weren't allowed to vote on January 6th, then the election of Biden as the next President wouldn't actually happen that day. It would throw everything in doubt, and the 4 or 5 states would have to call an emergency session to vote for new Electors that would be pro-Trump rather than pro-Biden. That was the Chump/Giuliani/Eastman plan for stealing the presidency for 4 more years of Chump.
Needless to say, it all hinged on Mike Pence being willing/able to do this, and Pence said "No." For 3 weeks Pence told him "No" and Chump never listened and didn't believe him. Finally on the morning of January 6th Pence told Chump "No" for the last time and headed off to the Capitol. Chump went to his rally on the White House lawn and told everybody to "Go see Mike Pence at the Capitol and tell him to do the right thing." He also tweeted it a few times that morning. Chump sent the crazy people to the Capitol, and we all saw what happened after that.
gab13by13
(21,256 posts)we don't know who the masterminds behind Trump are. I believe there are people who are still unknown. It could be Putin, it could be someone like Steve Paschenik (spelling) he was a hostage negotiator a very smart person a friend of Alex Jones and Steve Bannon. He talked about a Trump counter coup back when Trump was running against Hillary, don't dismiss him. If you can stomach it watch his videos on You Tube.
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)have no concern about justice. Present any evidence you find. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)malaise
(268,693 posts)window and let his folks hear the screaming MAGAban goons on Jan 5, then we have even more evidence that this was a coup
malaise
(268,693 posts)window and let his folks hear the screaming MAGAban goons on Jan 5, then we have even more evidence that this was a coup
niyad
(113,055 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)gab13by13
(21,256 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)We need to start passionately pointing this out to republicans.
My state of Pa wants to turn over my personal information to a third party for investigation of the trump lost election.
I consider that to be support of treason and have informed my State Representative.
Hiawatha Pete
(1,795 posts)musclecar6
(1,684 posts)TFG is a con man liar and a cheat who also happens to be a megalomaniac Socio path. He is a driven guy who is a Hitler wanna be. We also know hell run again if he has a fraction of a chance to get back in. He may even run because he always has supreme confidence he can con people with his bullshit.
Our best bet is that the cheeseburgers will finally catch up with him. Keep your fingers crossed.