FFS: Texas anti-abortion leader says SB 8 was not intended for lawsuits to ever be filed...

[demmiblue]

Texas anti-abortion leader says SB 8 was not intended for lawsuits to ever be filed, just put the fear of liability into providers

Link to tweet

Lawsuits Filed Against Texas Doctor Could Be Best Tests of Abortion Law

DALLAS — When the United States’ most restrictive abortion law went into effect in Texas on Sept. 1, it worked exactly as intended: It effectively stopped all abortions in the second-most populous state.

But its very ingenuity — that ordinary citizens, and not state officials, enforce it — has begun to unleash lawsuits that are out of the control of the anti-abortion movement that fought for the law.

On Monday, a man in Arkansas and another in Illinois, both disbarred lawyers with no apparent association with anti-abortion activists, filed separate suits against a San Antonio doctor who publicly wrote about performing an abortion. The suits appear to be the first legal actions taken under the law, known as Senate Bill 8, which deputizes private citizens, no matter where they live, to sue doctors or anyone else who “aids and abets” an abortion performed after a fetus’s cardiac activity is detected.

Legal experts said the lawsuits filed in state court might be the most likely way to definitively resolve the constitutionality of the Texas law, which has withstood legal tests. Two more sweeping challenges filed in federal court, brought by abortion providers and the Justice Department, raise difficult procedural questions.

Anti-abortion leaders in Texas said they never expected many people to actually file lawsuits, thinking the process would be too costly and onerous.

“These out-of-state suits are not what the bill is intended for,” said Chelsey Youman, the Texas state director and national legislative adviser for Human Coalition, an anti-abortion group that said it had no plans to file a lawsuit against the physician, Dr. Alan Braid, or to encourage others to do so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/us/texas-abortion-lawsuits.html

[Thomas Hurt]

1. What he means is it was meant as terrorism. The moral compass of the christofascist.

Weaponize anything and everything to impose your ideology on others..

[Hugin]

2. Lesson: Provide an avenue for income...

People will use it to make income.

Welcome to capitalism dumbasses.

[Walleye]

3. How many other Texas laws have been written with this thoughtlessly and irresponsibly?

When they wrote the open carry lax gun laws did they think maybe people weren’t going to be carrying guns around in public?

[pnwest]

4. It is utterly unfathomable that SCOTUS upheld this law.

[Mad_Machine76]

9. Exactly

[Tetrachloride]

5. Racketeering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeering

[Fullduplexxx]

6. Well texas get ready to open the check book

[exboyfil]

12. Not Texas but the person being sued

The law gives unlimited liability to anyone providing assistance to get an abortion. There is no limit to how many people can collect the $10K plus attorney costs.

Of course Texas is going to spend a lot of money fighting this through the Courts.

[Pantagruel]

7. Really bad laws

engender lawsuits. Writing good legislation is an art form requiring subtle, thoughtful and comprehensive crafting by intelligent elected officials. By definition, the GOP is incapable of legislating, essentially too dumb to govern.

[Mad_Machine76]

8. Oh well

They caught the proverbial car and now I guess they just need to figure out what to do now. If it's in the law, it's in the law. No backsies unless they just want to repeal it.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

10. Exactly what I said from the day it passed (nt)

[The Magistrate]

11. Oh, But It's Nice To Have A Laugh Early In The Morning

In an odd way, these critters have a touching innocence about the world around them.

[Happy Hoosier]

13. I can't see how that law stands up to even the smallest of scrutiny.

What is the standing of a private individual or organization to sue? What actual, specific harm does it cause the plantiff? What actual redress can be offered by the courts?

It's fuckin' laughable.

[MineralMan]

14. Uh-huh...sure, Dude.

Well, lawsuits have been filed now, so there will be a test of this foolish, misbegotten law. And, guess what? It will be thrown out as unconstitutional. What will you do then, Chelsey Youman, you abject moron?

Of course someone was going to file lawsuits, based on that idiotic law. Now, let's see if you can defend your foolish, authoritarian gesture.

[Zeitghost]

15. There will be no need to defend it

Once Roe is tossed via the upcoming Mississippi case. This is precisely why the SCotUS punted on the Tx law.

[GopherGal]

17. Lawsuits weren't intended???

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Haven't followed this in painstaking detail, but isn't there language in the law that specifically shields filers of lawsuits from having to pay defendants' legal fees in the case of frivolous lawsuits? Didn't they build that into the law specifically to protect filers of lawsuits? And now they weren't anticipating that these people whom they were trying to encourage to harass the would-be abortion patients, took them up on it?

[MineralMan]

19. Exactly! The Law Was Designed to Entice Such Lawsuits.

They're feigning surprise. It's all a lie.

[UTUSN]

16. There is no bottom to their shamelessness or ignorance (which one is it? )

[GopherGal]

18. Why not both?

Shamelessness is for the whole law.
Ignorance is for their understanding of female reproductive biology. (But it's a willful ignorance, because shameless)

[Ohio Joe]

20. So... It was an act of terrorism plain, simple and admitted

I'll say it again... If the right wants to act like terrorists, we need to start treating them as such.

[UTUSN]

21. Note to anti-CHOICE a-holes: There are other kinds of lawsuits, too::

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tech-trade-groups-sue-texas-over-social-media-law/ar-AAOHQEo

Tech trade groups sue Texas over social media law
Tech industry groups are suing Texas over the state's recently passed law that aims to block social media companies from banning users based on political views.

The Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA) and NetChoice co-filed the suit Wednesday, arguing the law signed by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) earlier this month is unconstitutional and would undermine platforms' ability to ban language including pro-Nazi speech, terrorist propaganda and medical misinformation. ....

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[Jon King]

22. Duh, this was obvious and what I said from day 1.

Come on, this was obvious. How could they want a case to be filed? It would be destroyed in court.

Who would get the medical records of the women to prove it? She could counter sue for medical records violations. Then the provider could counter sue because he/she could not present the evidence to defend themselves. The women could also counter sue the 'private citizen' for mental anguish.

No one was ever going to file a suit and risk being counter sued. This was always a scare tactic.

[UTUSN]

23. Note to anti-CHOICE a-holes: There are other kinds of lawsuits, too::

***********QUOTE******

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tech-trade-groups-sue-texas-over-social-media-law/ar-AAOHQEo

Tech trade groups sue Texas over social media law
Tech industry groups are suing Texas over the state's recently passed law that aims to block social media companies from banning users based on political views.

The Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA) and NetChoice co-filed the suit Wednesday, arguing the law signed by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) earlier this month is unconstitutional and would undermine platforms' ability to ban language including pro-Nazi speech, terrorist propaganda and medical misinformation. ....

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[dalton99a]

24. The idea is to terrorize anyone thinking about helping the woman with the prospect of bankruptcy

[Solly Mack]

25. Exactly