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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:09 AM Sep 2021

Sidney Powell Implicates Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Justice Alito In Plot To Overturn The El

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/09/26/sidney-powell-implicates-kevin-mccarthy-steve-scalise-and-justice-alito-in-plot-to-overturn-the-election.html

Posted on Sun, Sep 26th, 2021 by Jason Easley
Sidney Powell Implicates Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Justice Alito In Plot To Overturn The Election
Sidney Powell suggested that the purpose of the 1/6 attack was to give time to Supreme Court Justice Alito to intervene and overturn the election.



Powell suggested that the plan was for the insurrection to delay certifying the election so that Trump’s lawyers could file a 12th Amendment case to overturn the election.

McCarthy and Scalise were trying to deny Pelosi the ability to file an amicus brief in the case.

Powell said, “There had been inside goings-on in Congress whereby I believe it was Steve Scalise and McCarthy kept her from being an actual party. She wanted to work her way into the case, but somehow that didn’t happen. She got notice when we made our filing. She wanted to file an amicus brief, and then everything broke loose, and she had to speed up reconvening Congress to get the vote going before Justice Alito might issue an injunction.”


Sidney Powell is not a reliable narrator, but her point, if true, is that the purpose of the 1/6 attack on the Capitol was to buy time so that Justice Alito could intervene and block the certification of the election.

Trump and the Republicans were counting on the Supreme Court to overturn the election.

All the pieces of the puzzle are starting to fit together. The 1/6 attack was part of a seditious plot to overturn an election by stopping the certification and allowing the conservative justices on the Supreme Court to toss the election back to the states, which would have handed the presidency to Trump.

Elected Republicans should be facing criminal charges for this plot, and Kevin McCarthy has a whole lot more to answer for than a phone call with Trump on 1/6.
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Sidney Powell Implicates Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Justice Alito In Plot To Overturn The El (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2021 OP
Even Alito, awful as he is, wouldn't have waded into that sewer - even assuming Ocelot II Sep 2021 #1
Powell's word is questionable but I read it differently. brush Sep 2021 #4
America is teetering on a precipice. It could all collapse. spanone Sep 2021 #105
Powell is a pathological liar and a lunatic. AZ8theist Sep 2021 #112
What Powell says could be all lies, or there might some things... brush Sep 2021 #146
If SCOTUS was going to help wnylib Sep 2021 #128
Really? malaise Sep 2021 #7
That was a completely different circumstance and a very different legal issue. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #30
I agree but they intervened malaise Sep 2021 #41
They had an argument for doing it, even though it was a very flimsy one. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #47
How much more ethical and less traitorous would be using Hortensis Sep 2021 #80
In her memior O'Connor Alpeduez21 Sep 2021 #95
they found a legal fig leaf stopdiggin Sep 2021 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #42
I read Bush v Gore and it's hard to disagree with its logic jmowreader Sep 2021 #97
The problem with it is that the basis for the legal argument was weak. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #100
It was a different court with a different balance of power quakerboy Sep 2021 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #8
Alito people Sep 2021 #44
Yes... I think that is her "assumption" talking. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #46
Or, ewagner Sep 2021 #117
Given the overall circumstances, assuming anything but the worst is a mistake. We cannot KPN Sep 2021 #65
I agree, investigate it, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #66
I believe the stacking of that court with hard right/religious right Hortensis Sep 2021 #81
++++! KPN Sep 2021 #104
I'm pretty sure it was not Alito who shouted, but I do think Alito is crooked as hell. Trust_Reality Sep 2021 #110
You are correct. Congressman Joe Wilson (South Carolina) nt yellowdogintexas Sep 2021 #114
Thanks for the correction. Maybe I better look into KPN Sep 2021 #123
You're thinking of Alito doing something else Sympthsical Sep 2021 #116
Yup. My forgetter is working better each year. I conflated the KPN Sep 2021 #122
I don't disagree that he's an unpleasant prick, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #125
Forget HER. This isn't about her. Traitors are planning a coup d'etat. Hortensis Sep 2021 #131
I don't disagree with you, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #132
No, her dishonesty is actually irrelevant to whether the facts are true. Hortensis Sep 2021 #135
painting Alito into this picture requires stopdiggin Sep 2021 #68
A huge +100. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #70
Really??? atreides1 Sep 2021 #89
I hate Alito BradAllison Sep 2021 #94
Alito would jump at the chance to do exactly what was planned ... he is that much of a shit NotHardly Sep 2021 #111
Exactamundo! oasis Sep 2021 #155
I think Fillipowski Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #148
This is huge if Powell's word means anything. Speaker Pelosi's... brush Sep 2021 #2
Big "if" StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #3
Is there a way for the FBI to have a look at Alito's "communications" (?) Justice matters. Sep 2021 #5
They might get it from the communications that they are already subpoenaing. Sanity Claws Sep 2021 #19
"If" is right but it certainly needs to be investigated. brush Sep 2021 #9
Not if the Speaker confirms this malaise Sep 2021 #11
Oh boy, things would get fun if that happened. mjvpi Sep 2021 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #12
Massive if. Bigger moonscape Sep 2021 #25
Eh, Make Her Testify To It And Make McCarthy, Scalise, & Alito Deny It nt smb Sep 2021 #156
Why would you believe anything that lunatic has to say? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #6
Her word is of course questionable. I did say "if true". brush Sep 2021 #14
See post 15. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #16
I wouldn't hang my hat on anything Powell says - she makes stuff up out of whole cloth, Ocelot II Sep 2021 #34
Correct about Powell. But this should not just be ignored... brush Sep 2021 #38
Look into it, yes, but don't expect it to pan out. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #40
My View As Well, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #85
True. But she just gave the DoJ a reason to investigate, subpoena and indict... Grins Sep 2021 #107
An unsupported allegation of a crazy person StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #157
Just because she is a massive liar does not mean we do not check this out. BlueLucy Sep 2021 #10
Sure, investigate it, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #15
Possible. But do you trust any of those in that cabal? brush Sep 2021 #20
Other than her word, for whatever that's worth, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #22
Let me get this straight. You want to let this go and not look into it... brush Sep 2021 #32
What part of read post 15 you didn't understand? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #37
It seems Post 15 speaks for you, check out my response to post 15. brush Sep 2021 #49
And I answered you back and I stand by my posts. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #52
Investigate. brush Sep 2021 #54
Gee, didn't I already say that? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #57
Unless something more substantial turns up an investigation is unlikely to happen. cstanleytech Sep 2021 #91
'Nice' of her to drag Alito's name into this, eh? elleng Sep 2021 #13
I think she got her Circuits mixed up underpants Sep 2021 #24
.... MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #31
Thank you underpants Sep 2021 #39
:) Of course. And the point about the circuits is kinda big. Hortensis Sep 2021 #96
Not ready to believe anything Powell says. Sneederbunk Sep 2021 #17
brooks bros riot writ large. and why wouldnt they? mopinko Sep 2021 #18
This gets me all excited inside, but given it is Sidney Powell saying these things... SKKY Sep 2021 #21
SCOTUS has no authority over the internal processes of congress Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #23
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #27
+1. Agreed. yonder Sep 2021 #74
Why is anyone giving her a soapbox? RainCaster Sep 2021 #26
That's exactly why, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #29
Wtf?? Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #28
She has been mocked for months... MiHale Sep 2021 #33
The source is totally suspect.. ashredux Sep 2021 #35
I don't believe a goddamn thing that comes out of her crazy ass mouth, but...... paleotn Sep 2021 #36
All the money, court time and columns of press multigraincracker Sep 2021 #45
Not that I don't believe a word out of her mouth but the real reason behind the 1/6/21 ... Botany Sep 2021 #43
I agree with you. fwvinson Sep 2021 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #67
shittiest 'insurrection' (and planning) ever -(nt)- stopdiggin Sep 2021 #79
In drastic desperation, pulling out all the stops. eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2021 #153
Kickin AKwannabe Sep 2021 #48
Lock them up? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #50
No AKwannabe Sep 2021 #51
Don't you think there should be some evidence other than MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #55
We got more than enough stuff to lock em up w/out listening to Sidney Powell crap Botany Sep 2021 #59
I don't generally disagree, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #61
Lock them ALL up! calimary Sep 2021 #58
Variation on Bush v. Gore 2000? moondust Sep 2021 #53
Speaker Pelosi can confirm this if true, and she should. marble falls Sep 2021 #62
While Powell is a dubious "witness" to truth, this has the ring of truth in it. Texin Sep 2021 #63
Trump was working every angle. He must have tried to get the SC to intervene as well. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #64
... MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #71
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #72
Huh? Ask everyone who attacked the Capitol why they did it & I bet NONE will say... CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #73
"Han_ Mike Pence" ... "look for" Pelosi... Justice matters. Sep 2021 #84
This part bothers me. A LOT. calimary Sep 2021 #98
What a web woven Traildogbob Sep 2021 #75
Classic psychopathy: If I'm going down, I'm taking everyone with me." AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #77
NO credible author could ever make this shit up Pas-de-Calais Sep 2021 #78
Trump etc Catherine Vincent Sep 2021 #82
To borrow a phrase from RR: "Where's the Beef? Does Powell or anyone else she's indicting have Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #83
Its going to take more than an opinion to see this go further so I would not be willing cstanleytech Sep 2021 #86
Its going to take more than an opinion to see this go further so I would not be willing cstanleytech Sep 2021 #87
Sidney Powell is a whack job left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #88
Warrants? TFRD Sep 2021 #90
Madame Speaker Pelosi has what it takes Marthe48 Sep 2021 #92
I support this being pushed. Make Alito look bad. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #93
The A teams of our world-class investigative media are undoubtedly already Hortensis Sep 2021 #99
Is this because Justice Alito has jurisdiction for SCOTUS appeals in District of Columbia? bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #101
Anyone talk to Pelosi about an amicus? Grins Sep 2021 #102
Well how very F-ING interesting! Trueblue Texan Sep 2021 #103
Oh. My. God. perdita9 Sep 2021 #106
Thank you, Nancy Pelosi. Here is Sidney Powell's full written statement about her group's plot. pnwmom Sep 2021 #108
Traitors Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #109
Gee, do ya think that maybe there should be an investigation first? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #127
Gee, hell, yes! And there WILL be. Subject: GOP coup attempt. Hortensis Sep 2021 #133
Of course I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #134
Since the only mention I found of jailing is yours right here, Hortensis Sep 2021 #138
The post I originally responded to suggested just that, another post said lock them up with MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #139
You too, Marine. Hortensis Sep 2021 #141
Well... Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #136
LOLOL. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2021 #137
It's Sidney Powell Jilly_in_VA Sep 2021 #113
If she has receipts Achilles Skye Sep 2021 #115
I cannot even imagine what mechanism anyone thinks Alito could use Sympthsical Sep 2021 #118
What about the people who financed the whole thing? randr Sep 2021 #119
Perhaps FBI agents could interview her to check validity of her assertions. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #120
Well, if she wasn't bat shit crazy BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #121
Not clear how tossing the election back to the states would have elected TFG bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #126
Here's a link to the lawsuit she's talking about Hamlette Sep 2021 #129
This is getting interesting. BlueLucy Sep 2021 #143
Not sure I believe Sidney Powell on this. Moebym Sep 2021 #130
No one should believe a single word this cretin says budkin Sep 2021 #140
Thank You for posting...K and R (I wonder how many more acts of this play there are?) Stuart G Sep 2021 #142
First thing that came to mind.... Well then, why did FG eventually tell Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #144
If true - then Rudy Giuliani can implicate even more of them FakeNoose Sep 2021 #145
Check this out RFN! malaise Sep 2021 #147
+1, thanks for this connection. This needs sunlight. c-rational Sep 2021 #149
It need follow-up but we need to remember that Alito & the SC did not malaise Sep 2021 #150
A diversion The Wizard Sep 2021 #151
More Lies!! Is She Crazy!! toughtony Sep 2021 #152
Much as I would LIKE to believe it DFW Sep 2021 #154
Trump Reveals He Asked Georgia Governor To 'Help Us Out' Following Defeat UCmeNdc Sep 2021 #158
Trump lawyer offered six-point plan for Pence to overturn election: UCmeNdc Sep 2021 #159
This is simple enough for most of the public to understand, too nt C Moon Sep 2021 #160
So just read this snippet about Pence and Quayle that Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #161
Keep talking, Sid wryter2000 Sep 2021 #162
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #163

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
1. Even Alito, awful as he is, wouldn't have waded into that sewer - even assuming
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:13 AM
Sep 2021

this, or anything issuing from Powell's mouth, is true. Maybe her ass should be hauled before the 1/6 committee, too.

brush

(53,741 posts)
4. Powell's word is questionable but I read it differently.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:24 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 26, 2021, 08:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I got that Alito was in on it. If such a plot was brewing that sure explains all the delays dispatching the Nat'l Guard to the Capitol. They wanted there to be no possible way for Congress to reconvene to certify, then Alito could step in.

Of course Powell lies like a rug but this certainly needs to be followed up on and investigated.

AZ8theist

(5,409 posts)
112. Powell is a pathological liar and a lunatic.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:20 PM
Sep 2021

I wouldn't put 2 pesos on her credibility. Alito is not that stupid to get involved with a psycho like Powell.

brush

(53,741 posts)
146. What Powell says could be all lies, or there might some things...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 08:10 PM
Sep 2021

that are true, which is often the way with habitual liars. They sprinkle in some truths. I say investigate it.

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
128. If SCOTUS was going to help
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:42 PM
Sep 2021

overthrow the election, why didn't they give favorable rulings to DJT in his challenges?

What would give the Chief Justice the authority to step in and overturn an election result in the middle of an insurrectionist attack?

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
30. That was a completely different circumstance and a very different legal issue.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021

Bush v. Gore was a bullshit, poorly-reasoned decision based on a disingenuous interpretation of the equal protection clause, but it was nowhere near what TFG was going for. The Supremes granted the initial stay based on the particular circumstances of the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court - the whole thing was a huge goatfuck arising mostly from the failure of some counties to meet their counting deadlines under state law. What TFG wanted was for the Supreme Court to block Congress' certification of the election, and there is no provision of the Constitution under any possible interpretation, however stupid, that would permit them to do that.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
41. I agree but they intervened
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:04 PM
Sep 2021

and they knew what they were doing was wrong so they made it clear that it wasn't precedent

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
47. They had an argument for doing it, even though it was a very flimsy one.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:10 PM
Sep 2021

There is no argument in any universe that would justify the Supreme Court stepping in to stop Congress from the final certification of an election, the process for which is specified in clear terms in the Constitution; an originalist like Alito wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot injunction. It was never going to happen (and, of course, Bush v. Gore has no precedential value by its own holding). So I'm calling bullshit, which is Powell's main product.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. How much more ethical and less traitorous would be using
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

an available argument to betray their duty to the nation, compared to betraying without bothering with an argument? Seems to me the only real difference would be in risk to selves with and without a fig-leaf excuse if things didn't go as intended.

Alpeduez21

(1,749 posts)
95. In her memior O'Connor
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

admitted to deciding in favor of Bush's stance b/c she wanted him to win. She knew it was a VERY questionable call based on the consitution but she decided in favor of her personal preference and went against what she knew to be judicially prudent. The Supreme Court, especially its conservative justices vote their preference more than progressive ones.

I certainly don't share your faith that a fucking conservative will do what's right over what they selfishly desire.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
76. they found a legal fig leaf
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:59 PM
Sep 2021

(which we might find reprehensible) - but finding a shady corner to hang your hat (while still within the framework of law) - is quite different from jettisoning the Constitution out the window - which is what TFG was proposing.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #30)

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
97. I read Bush v Gore and it's hard to disagree with its logic
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

The Supremes decided there would be no damn way to create a standard for recounting the Florida vote because there so many different styles of ballots in use in Florida in 2000.

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
100. The problem with it is that the basis for the legal argument was weak.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:53 PM
Sep 2021

It's true that the recount had become a goat-fuck, but the Florida Supreme Court had authorized the recount and the Supremes didn't have a very solid rationale for intervening.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
124. It was a different court with a different balance of power
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:15 PM
Sep 2021

And a different balance of power in the country.

Trusting republicans to do the right thing when they think they can get away with doing something that they think benefits them is a fools errand. And republicans who happen to have been given scotus robes are no exception.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

people

(622 posts)
44. Alito
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:07 PM
Sep 2021

I have always assumed Alito is the worst of them. So, Powell is a notorious, admitted liar but were she not the story is believable.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
65. Given the overall circumstances, assuming anything but the worst is a mistake. We cannot
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:39 PM
Sep 2021

afford to be gracious in times like these. You may be right in the long run, but let's not assume that Alito or any of the other SCOTUS conservatives were not in on the deal.

Just saying, if we are going to protect and preserve our democracy/Constitution, we would be wise to assume the worst while investigating the specifics of what, when, who, and why.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
66. I agree, investigate it,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:46 PM
Sep 2021

but what are the odds that Sidney Powell, a known serial liar, isn't spewing horseshit out of her piehole?

There is zero indication/evidence, other than a serial liar's words, that any of the Supremes were along for the ride.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. I believe the stacking of that court with hard right/religious right
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

political agents is indication that they were put there to be a judicial arm of the Republican Party and those it serves. And we know in various ways, including strong patterns of decisions favoring RW megadonors and current political causes, that they have been acting as political agents in the judiciary.

Aside from cases, some weeks ago I heard Gorsuch speak publicly (unnecessarily!) about the ruling stopping NY from limiting church services to repeat two outrageously dishonest FACTUAL deceits being pushed on Fox and other RW media, nothing to do with legal issues. Jaw-dropping evidence of blatant political engagement.

This is not the high court we all grew up with. Here's a little example for Alito:

MSNBC: ALITO DROPS PRETENSE OF IMPARTIALITY, DELIVERS POLITICAL REMARKS

"The pandemic has resulted in previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty," Alito said in an address to the conservative Federalist Society, which is holding its annual convention virtually because of the pandemic.... "Whatever one may think about the COVID restrictions, we surely don't want them to become a recurring feature after the pandemic has passed," said Alito, who was nominated to the court by President George W. Bush.

And while it was jarring to hear Alito, who has no background in epidemiology or public health, publicly criticize efforts to control the pandemic, that was really just the start of what made his remarks so extraordinary. Slate's Mark Joseph Stern explained:

Alito abandoned any pretense of impartiality in his speech, a grievance-laden tirade against Democrats, the progressive movement, and the United States' response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Alito's targets included COVID-related restrictions, same-sex marriage, abortion, Plan B, the contraceptive mandate, LGBTQ non-discrimination laws, and five sitting Democratic senators.... Flouting his ethical obligations, Alito waded into fierce political debates over public health during a pandemic, reproductive rights, LGBTQ equality, and other issues that routinely come before his court. ...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/alito-drops-pretense-impartiality-delivers-political-remarks-n1247700

KPN

(15,635 posts)
104. ++++!
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:56 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:55 PM - Edit history (1)

As pointed out below, my memory was wrong … but I nevertheless really like and agree with the post above.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
123. Thanks for the correction. Maybe I better look into
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:56 PM
Sep 2021

Prevagen — Ginko Biko a certainly hasn’t worked.

Sympthsical

(9,037 posts)
116. You're thinking of Alito doing something else
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:08 PM
Sep 2021

He mouthed "not true" when President Obama was blasting the Court for Citizens United.

He wasn't wrong in what he was responding to. The law the President was referencing wasn't struck down by the Court in the opinion.

Citizens United still sucks though. And I'm glad President Obama was as angry about it as I was.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
122. Yup. My forgetter is working better each year. I conflated the
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:49 PM
Sep 2021

two incidents: Alito shook his head No and mouthed “not true” as you said. Yikes! Can’t believe my mind has slipped that much.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
125. I don't disagree that he's an unpleasant prick,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:19 PM
Sep 2021

but other than a serial liar's allegations, what other evidence is there at this point that she isn't just spouting her usual mouth diarrhea?

There should be an investigation, and if there's solid corroborating evidence, then he should be impeached, but until there is other evidence other than S. Powell's word, I don't believe a word from her.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
131. Forget HER. This isn't about her. Traitors are planning a coup d'etat.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:51 PM
Sep 2021

We know that now.

Is there any valid information in this about that and if so, what is it? That's the issue of interest.

Googling her name and Alito's just now brings up no additional mention of this, specifically none by a reputable news source. Which by definition would investigate to editorial standards first.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
132. I don't disagree with you,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:57 PM
Sep 2021

my point is that her allegations should be investigated with the knowledge that she is a serial liar and until there is other evidence from a reputable source, I refuse to believe anything she has to say.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
135. No, her dishonesty is actually irrelevant to whether the facts are true.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:13 PM
Sep 2021

Just as tRump's dishonesty is irrelevant to the question of whether he is attempting a RW takeover.

As for your refusing to just swallow her statements, you're not exactly alone in that. But, again, that's not the point.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
68. painting Alito into this picture requires
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:48 PM
Sep 2021

a very broad brush (IMO). On the other hand - with finger paints as your medium ...

Look - it's obvious in this interview that Powell has/had a very cloudy perception of what was going on - even regarding her own actions and filings. I find it frustrating for this 'mess' to be gaining any currency at all. For this story to be deserving of any kind of traction - it needs another, more coherent, source and voice. Powell is just not the person.

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
89. Really???
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:35 PM
Sep 2021

If Alito thought he could get away with it...he would have jumped into a pool filled with shit!!! I watched his confirmation hearing, the one with his "crying" wife...and him shaking his head no during the State of the Union speech by President Obama...when the SCOTUS was called out...

Alito is a Dominionist ideologue!!!!

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
94. I hate Alito
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:39 PM
Sep 2021

But this woman is a fucking loon and is trying to find an excuse why even Alito wouldn't hear their bullshit.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
111. Alito would jump at the chance to do exactly what was planned ... he is that much of a shit
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

It's about power and control and that old troll loves him some power and control...oh, and then there's the money... pretty sure there was money/profit exchanged for his promise of corrupting our government. The Supreme Court has 6 deplorable on it and they mean to undo democracy to create a theocracy ... count on it.

brush

(53,741 posts)
2. This is huge if Powell's word means anything. Speaker Pelosi's...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:19 AM
Sep 2021

determination to reconvene Congress to certify the vote save the democracy and foiled the McCarthy, Scalise et al who were depending on SCOTUS justice Alito to halt the certification and throw the election back to the state legislatures.

WOW! This is huge if true. Alito is going to be looked at for impeachment and maybe even criminal penalties, along with the rest of the cabal.

Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
6. Why would you believe anything that lunatic has to say?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:25 AM
Sep 2021

Where has she been truthful about anything?
Especially election related?

AFAIC, nothing she says is believable and I don't for one second believe this also, not even Alito would go along with this.

brush

(53,741 posts)
14. Her word is of course questionable. I did say "if true".
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:32 AM
Sep 2021

But this certainly needs to be investigated don't you think? The hours-long delay in dispatching the Nat'l Guard is still not fully explained. We know McCarthy was up to his neck in it and in contact with trump and who knows who else?

It needs to be looked into.

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
34. I wouldn't hang my hat on anything Powell says - she makes stuff up out of whole cloth,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

and Politics USA isn't a very reliable source, even though they are on "our" side - their spin often doesn't hold up. Of course it should be looked into, but considering the fact that Powell is nuttier than squirrel shit there's a good chance she just pulled it out of her ass.

brush

(53,741 posts)
38. Correct about Powell. But this should not just be ignored...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

as that cabal of trumpers can't be trusted either as to their actions on Jan. 6.

Investigate.

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
85. My View As Well, Ma'am
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:30 PM
Sep 2021

I do not think it can be ruled out of hand. I can certainly see Alito cooperating, as easily as I could see Thomas doing so if in position to. As such things go, it's not a bad plan, assuming always the judge is onboard. Powell is course no reliable narrator, let alone a trustworthy witness. But there are other evidences delay was hoped for, the call to Tuberville for instance, with the aim of throwing the decision to the House.

Grins

(7,195 posts)
107. True. But she just gave the DoJ a reason to investigate, subpoena and indict...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:07 PM
Sep 2021

...members of Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Trumpers in the DoJ. For sedition.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
157. An unsupported allegation of a crazy person
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:30 AM
Sep 2021

is not grounds for DOJ to investigate, subpoena or indict anyone for anything.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
10. Just because she is a massive liar does not mean we do not check this out.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:29 AM
Sep 2021

This needs to be investigated and if true Alito should be impeached.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
15. Sure, investigate it,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

but it will almost certainly be proven bullshit, it's more than likely that this is another lame ass attempt to distract attention from the massive lawsuit filed against her by Dominion.

brush

(53,741 posts)
20. Possible. But do you trust any of those in that cabal?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:38 AM
Sep 2021

I don't. The delay in dispatching the Nat'l Guard is still not fully understood and McCarthy was in it up to his neck and in contact with trump and who knows who else during the day.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
22. Other than her word, for whatever that's worth,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

what other evidence is there that Alito was involved?

No, I don't trust any of them, but Sidney Powell has zero credibility given her past and ongoing record with her massive lies about the election.

Name one thing that has proven true that she has said about the alleged massive fraud in the election?

brush

(53,741 posts)
32. Let me get this straight. You want to let this go and not look into it...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:54 AM
Sep 2021

because Powell is know to lie? Which of those others are not know to lie and can be fully trusted about what happened on Jan. 6?

Investigate.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
37. What part of read post 15 you didn't understand?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:58 AM
Sep 2021
MarineCombatEngineer (4,560 posts)

15. Sure, investigate it,

but it will almost certainly be proven bullshit, it's more than likely that this is another lame ass attempt to distract attention from the massive lawsuit filed against her by Dominion.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
57. Gee, didn't I already say that?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:19 PM
Sep 2021
MarineCombatEngineer (4,560 posts)

15. Sure, investigate it,

but it will almost certainly be proven bullshit, it's more than likely that this is another lame ass attempt to distract attention from the massive lawsuit filed against her by Dominion.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
24. I think she got her Circuits mixed up
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

Alito overseas actions in the third circuit which is PA NJ and the Virgin Islands.

The ninth circuit includes Arizona which is overseen by Justice Kagan.

The Kracken got her lie wrong.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
31. ....
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021
The Kracken got her lie wrong.


What a surprise, huh.
Nothing coming out of that lunatic's piehole should be believed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
96. :) Of course. And the point about the circuits is kinda big.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:48 PM
Sep 2021

However, it occurs to me that this would be such a big issue that Kagan would be obliged to throw it to the entire court. Unless she chose to refuse to follow procedure and handle it alone.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
18. brooks bros riot writ large. and why wouldnt they?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:37 AM
Sep 2021

it worked just fine the first time, and they didnt have nearly as many justices in their pocket in 2000.

SKKY

(11,792 posts)
21. This gets me all excited inside, but given it is Sidney Powell saying these things...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:42 AM
Sep 2021

...I'm guessing she's just throwing spaghetti on the wall to see if it sticks. Although, she could be a shot across the brows of McCarthy and Scalise.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
23. SCOTUS has no authority over the internal processes of congress
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

Any injunction issued by Alito could have been ignored by Pelosi, and she could have proceeded with the certification, with or without Pence.

This sounds like more of the usual word salad from Powell, untethered from reality.

Even if the intentions were true, I don’t think Alito would have touched it, and risk diminishing SCOTUS’ power and creating a constitutional crisis, when a constitutional solution was already evident.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
29. That's exactly why,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:48 AM
Sep 2021

to distract from the Dominion lawsuit, it's a case of don't look over there, look over here.

MiHale

(9,664 posts)
33. She has been mocked for months...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:54 AM
Sep 2021

Now what she says is true? Must be investigated but could be a huge red herring.

ashredux

(2,599 posts)
35. The source is totally suspect..
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:56 AM
Sep 2021

If Powell was a close relative you would be trying to get her to seek professional help regarding her mental health….

Or in the vernacular, she is bat shit crazy

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
36. I don't believe a goddamn thing that comes out of her crazy ass mouth, but......
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:57 AM
Sep 2021

this is interesting. How much is truthful remains to be seen. Alito certainly peeks my interest though. Hmmmmm.

multigraincracker

(32,641 posts)
45. All the money, court time and columns of press
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:09 PM
Sep 2021

wasted on her and her friends lies, I'm all for spending more time, money, etc on this one.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
43. Not that I don't believe a word out of her mouth but the real reason behind the 1/6/21 ...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:06 PM
Sep 2021

.... insurrection (I think this is the case but I am nuttier than a squirrel turd) was to cause so much
violence, death, destruction, and fear that "they" suspended the certification of the electoral college
and then Trump was going to declare martial law and stay in power in order to avoid all the criminal
and civil penalties that he knew were awaiting him post Presidency.

Response to Botany (Reply #43)

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
55. Don't you think there should be some evidence other than
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:18 PM
Sep 2021

a proven serial liar's word? That's not how our system works, usually.

I support an investigation, but I wouldn't bet on any of this liar's allegations being in the slightest way true.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
59. We got more than enough stuff to lock em up w/out listening to Sidney Powell crap
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:20 PM
Sep 2021

BTW I am pretty sure Powell is saying this stuff now to cover her ass for all of her actions.



One of the reasons to "lock 'em up."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/trump-pence-election-memo/index.html

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
61. I don't generally disagree,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:25 PM
Sep 2021

but where in that "plan", which was never going to succeed, does it say that Alito would be involved? Or for that matter, any of the Supremes?

So far, even the Mango Menace's lackey's refused to even entertain any notion of intervening in the election process, much less over turn it.

Texin

(2,590 posts)
63. While Powell is a dubious "witness" to truth, this has the ring of truth in it.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:35 PM
Sep 2021

In Peril, the GQP were all-in on using whatever strategy or legal tactic they could come up with ensure that the vote count was not certified to begin with, and when that didn't work, they then thought of every challenge they could use that would not outright be a violation of their Constitutional powers. They were drawing legal opinions from some of the most respected Constitutional legal scholars in the country right up to January 6. Frankly, if the insurrection/attempted coup hadn't taken place, I'm not sure they wouldn't have been successful in pulling it off!

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
64. Trump was working every angle. He must have tried to get the SC to intervene as well.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:38 PM
Sep 2021

I don't know if this story is true, but the substance of it certainly rings true.

Trump most likely did have some hopes the SC would help him in some way.

He was trying everything he could to retain power.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
69. ...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:49 PM
Sep 2021
Trump most likely did have some hopes the SC would help him in some way.


And they flat turned him down, even the lackey's he nominated pretty much laughed at him and his inept "lawyers" attempts to subvert the election.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #64)

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
73. Huh? Ask everyone who attacked the Capitol why they did it & I bet NONE will say...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:51 PM
Sep 2021

..."the purpose of the 1/6 attack on the Capitol was to buy time so that Justice Alito could intervene and block the certification of the election"

No way. They were just angry crazed thugs who wanted to break in, smash things, smear crap on the walls, & attack members of Congress they didn't like. I don't believe for a second that any of them, as they were smashing Capitol windows, thought to themselves "this will give Justice Alito time to intervene and block the certification of the election."

The insurrectionists were all *inspired* by the likes of Trump, Powell, etc but as they were attacking the Capitol they weren't *controlled* by Trump or Powell or McCarthy or Scalise or anyone else, they were out of control & acting on their own volition. That's an important distinction.

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
84. "Han_ Mike Pence" ... "look for" Pelosi...
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:27 PM
Sep 2021
to do what to the line of succession? And the NG not called in for HOURS...

These criminals didn't know the plot. Their commanding criminals knew it.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
98. This part bothers me. A LOT.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

I immediately thought this could explain the ridiculous and (previously inexplicable) delay in troops being called in to stop the insurrection. Why nothing was done to intervene - FOR HOURS.

Traildogbob

(8,674 posts)
75. What a web woven
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 12:53 PM
Sep 2021

Most of you are probably right, this is more Kracken being Kracken. She said herself why would anyone believe her shit, except maybe Fox. Anyway, before all you “non believers” punched holes in the the Theory, gotta say for a New York minute I had a soul lifting moment thinking of Scalise, Aleto, and McCathy in prison. And all their faces at sentencing. Ya had to take that away didn’t ya.
With all The webs the criminal GQP have woven around this country, why would anybody doubt that Trump/Barr et al did not assassinate Epstein in that cell? GQP mob are murderers for power and cash. Angela Landsbury could not create a plot so thick.
“Liberty and justice for all”, the whole pledge to the stars and strips rag is total bullshit. And Texas will require school kids to recite it everyday, if Covid don’t kill em all first. USA, USA, USA.. rah fucking rah,

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
82. Trump etc
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

Trump and company were hoping to get a deal similar to when GWBush stole the presidency via the USSC.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
83. To borrow a phrase from RR: "Where's the Beef? Does Powell or anyone else she's indicting have
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:24 PM
Sep 2021

memos, phone messages, emails or texts showing that this was indeed as she asserts?
Or can they prove it wasn't???

I am well past the point of accepting that anyone on that side of the equation acts for any purpose other than to guarantee GOP power in the Trumpian model. If, as some will argue, they didn't jump the shark in 2000, they certainly did during W/Cheney and have been heading further into the dark side ever since at increasing rate.

Reagan was the first stage of regime change anyone could observe. Weapons for Hostages made that clear as did the other exceptional exploits of Ollie North and Co.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
86. Its going to take more than an opinion to see this go further so I would not be willing
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

to place any amount of money on such evidence turning up.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
87. Its going to take more than an opinion to see this go further so I would not be willing
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

to place any amount of money on such evidence turning up.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
88. Sidney Powell is a whack job
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

“Sidney Katherine Powell is best known for her promotion of conspiracy theories in attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Powell

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
92. Madame Speaker Pelosi has what it takes
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:36 PM
Sep 2021

She is a leader, more of a leader than most historical figures.

She has courage and she heartens all of us followers. The traitors didn't expect her to reconvene the House. I imagine they expected her to get a cup of tea and smelling salts. Ha. Instead, she got a cup of F* you and a siphon.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
99. The A teams of our world-class investigative media are undoubtedly already
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:51 PM
Sep 2021

all over this. Even if it looks like nonsense to their experts going in, they'll be examining everything for possible new clues and/or information. It'd be way too soon for them to publish anything, of course, but I looked.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
101. Is this because Justice Alito has jurisdiction for SCOTUS appeals in District of Columbia?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:54 PM
Sep 2021

I doubt anyone can pin it on him with evidence. But if true and verifiable it is a major turn of events.

Grins

(7,195 posts)
102. Anyone talk to Pelosi about an amicus?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 01:54 PM
Sep 2021

Or the court clerk? Seems it would be pretty easy to find out if any briefs were filed.

Congress returned into session because the Constitution required it.

And while I truly despise "Strip-Search" Sammy Alito, I don't see him going along with this.

I just read the 12th Amendment and I don't see how it would be used by Sidney and her fellow seditionists.

Can anyone help...?

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
106. Oh. My. God.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 02:03 PM
Sep 2021

I knew it was bad, but this is beyond anything I ever imagined.

We are so lucky Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House on January 6th.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
127. Gee, do ya think that maybe there should be an investigation first?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:38 PM
Sep 2021

Or are you all for taking the word of a proven prolific serial liar without any corroborating evidence?

Name one thing Sidney Powell has been truthful about so far?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
133. Gee, hell, yes! And there WILL be. Subject: GOP coup attempt.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:05 PM
Sep 2021

Statements from serial liars have to be investigated when those serial liars are believed to have been, and be, involved in attempts at a coup d'etat.

I'm sure you agree.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
134. Of course I agree,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:09 PM
Sep 2021

do you agree that we shouldn't be putting people in jail, as was suggested, on the sole word of a known serial liar without any corroborating evidence?

I think we agree with each other here.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
138. Since the only mention I found of jailing is yours right here,
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:21 PM
Sep 2021

I'll have to pass. You probably just imagined another DUer suggested arresting people (a justice?!) on no evidence at all, but this is an example of why we do need to check out what people say.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
139. The post I originally responded to suggested just that, another post said lock them up with
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:26 PM
Sep 2021

no mention of an investigation first, so I was just responding.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Have a great Sunday afternoon.

Sympthsical

(9,037 posts)
118. I cannot even imagine what mechanism anyone thinks Alito could use
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

For starters, John Roberts is the SC justice who oversees the DC circuit.

Even then, there is nothing in the Constitution - zero - that would prompt the SC's involvement in an iron clad Congressional procedure like that.

This reads like fan fiction written by someone who has never read the book they're basing it on.

If this story is presented as, "Look at what this lunatic is blathering about now," then ok. But if it's meant as a serious, "Could this be true?!"

No. It cannot. Not even slightly. Not even in our wildest paranoia.

Reminds me of the SNL sketch with Kavenaugh, where Lindsay Graham keeps defending him by invoking Cosby. "Uh, please stop saying his name and mine in the same sentence." Bet Alito is thrilled to be dragged into this.

randr

(12,409 posts)
119. What about the people who financed the whole thing?
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:24 PM
Sep 2021

I had read that Justice Thomas' wife had paid for buses to the "event"/

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
121. Well, if she wasn't bat shit crazy
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

This might be an interesting story. Since she is - this is just more ramblings of a mad woman.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
126. Not clear how tossing the election back to the states would have elected TFG
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:22 PM
Sep 2021

I think they mean tossing it into the House of Representatives. They would have needed 3 or 4 states and 37 electoral votes to reverse the outcome by stopping the certification.

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
129. Here's a link to the lawsuit she's talking about
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:43 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20A115/165483/20210106111314445_Gohmert%20v%20Pence%20Stay%20Appl%20signed.pdf

It appears, from a quick reading of parts of the pleadings, it is a challenge to the Electoral Count Act because it violates the 12th Amendment. It appears, from the pleadings, the district court ruled against that theory in a decision issued on Jan 1 and the 5th Circuit upheld denial on Jan 2 and Powell argues they have not had enough time to decide whether to appeal so the Supreme Court should take this emergency action to stop the count.

The video in the op makes it sound like this was some genuine motion to Alito that Pelosi stopped by insisting Congress go back in session. She seems to imply that was some trick by Pelosi (the evil one) to stop Alito. My take is this Jan 6th motion to Alito was more BS and Pelosi's actions were not based on it at all. As I remember from watching the J6 insurrection that many leaders in Congress, including Pence, were insistent that Congress go back in session immediately to keep counting the votes.

Each Supreme Court Justice has some role in one or two Circuit courts, sort of like a oversight position. Alito was the Justice for the 5th Circuit and the lawsuit was filed there (Texas) hence Gohmert as Plaintiff. That is also where Powell is licensed.

Moebym

(989 posts)
130. Not sure I believe Sidney Powell on this.
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 04:49 PM
Sep 2021

She's made too many wild claims in the past for me to believe her latest blatherings, regardless of whether she's implicating figures I despise in a serious crime.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
142. Thank You for posting...K and R (I wonder how many more acts of this play there are?)
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 05:59 PM
Sep 2021

As bad as Alito is, would he sacrifice everything for this plot?. It does seem that Powell is not the honest
bird that sings an honest song. How trustworthy is she? Does she fly right?. Or is she upside down?

Or is this just another attempt to switch the channel to another station?...I guess we will have to wait till
tomorrow...............for another chapter of:......................."As the WORLD OF IDIOTS TURN"....

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
144. First thing that came to mind.... Well then, why did FG eventually tell
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 07:18 PM
Sep 2021

Everyone to go home? She didn't reconvene until what 8-9p eastern right? He told them to go home lots earlier than that. Besides supposedly Dems and many Rs said it was an unspoken feeling they would reconvene.

Did FG get word at some point SC couldn't rule?

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
145. If true - then Rudy Giuliani can implicate even more of them
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 07:43 PM
Sep 2021

Rudy was in cahoots with Sydney Powell the "Kraken" lawyer since the day after the election. Either they cooked up the scheme together, or Rudy included her from the get-go.

How come Rudy isn't being mentioned NOW?

malaise

(268,693 posts)
150. It need follow-up but we need to remember that Alito & the SC did not
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 09:46 PM
Sep 2021

intervene
From the end of the article:

So why is Alito apparently keeping the door open at the 11th hour? The scholars say it could be to ensure the legitimacy and clarity of the court's ultimate decision to stay out of it.

"When the court refuses to get involved -- which is almost certainly what they're going to do -- they want it to be clear that they are affirmatively deciding not to get involved, that it's not simply that time ran out, but the court within the time frame established by law has decided not to get involved in this lawsuit," Noti said.

Vladeck agreed. "That doesn't mean an injunction is coming," he said.

The court has until midnight Tuesday to take action. If it does nothing, it will effectively render the matter closed.

toughtony

(88 posts)
152. More Lies!! Is She Crazy!!
Sun Sep 26, 2021, 11:56 PM
Sep 2021

That woman has no credibility. Maybe she knows, maybe crazy is what she's counting on. But then, why Alito and not Clarence Thomas since it was his wife who helped organize the transportation. She was the one passing out loyalty oath letters.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
161. So just read this snippet about Pence and Quayle that
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:24 AM
Sep 2021

Substantiates this

But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.

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