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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 08:51 AM

Star Member babylonsister (170,121 posts)

Leaked Membership List Shows Top Republicans in Shadowy Group With Extremists

https://www.thedailybeast.com/council-for-national-policy-membership-list-shows-top-republicans-in-shadowy-group-with-extremists?ref=home

Leaked Membership List Shows Top Republicans in Shadowy Group With Extremists
OUT OF THE SHADOWS
Jamie Ross
News Correspondent
Published Sep. 30, 2021 9:03AM ET



The membership list of one of the most secretive right-wing groups in America has reportedly been leaked, and it shows a mix of mainstream Republicans and Trumpworld figures alongside fringe extremists. The influential Council for National Policy has been meeting three times a year for the past four decades, but its members are believed to be forbidden from discussing its activities or even acknowledging its existence. The Guardian reports that a leaked membership list from last September shows senior Republicans such as Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA,) ex-RNC Chair and Trump White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and former Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. It also contains dozens of extremists from organizations listed as hate groups, including Tim Wildmon, the president of the anti-LGBT rights group the American Family Association, and the anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney. None of the members contacted by The Guardian responded to questions.

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Reply Leaked Membership List Shows Top Republicans in Shadowy Group With Extremists (Original post)
 babylonsister Sep 2021 OP
LineReply Don't think for a moment that if any of these
 madaboutharry Sep 2021 #1
LineLineReply Don't think for a moment that if any of these
 FSogol Sep 2021 #7
LineLineLineReply I will second that motion...
 IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2021 #17
LineLineLineReply This message was self-deleted by its author
 Chin music Sep 2021 #26
LineLineLineLineReply +1 n/t
 FSogol Sep 2021 #29
LineLineReply This message was self-deleted by its author
 Chin music Sep 2021 #25
LineLineNew Reply Oh yes, I've thought that many times
 PatSeg Sep 2021 #37
LineReply This is a BFD!
 SheltieLover Sep 2021 #2
LineLineReply I know, DOJ seems to be MIA.
 Hotler Sep 2021 #11
LineLineLineReply Yes not too many signs of life out of the DOJ
 CentralMass Sep 2021 #13
LineLineLineLineReply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Sep 2021 #15
LineLineLineNew Reply I'll say this one more time - the DOJ doesn't hold daily press briefings to provide the details....
 George II Sep 2021 #34
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Tiresome, isn't it?
 Hekate Sep 2021 #35
LineReply Expose every one of them
 malaise Sep 2021 #3
LineReply More, from the SPLC website - these guys are scary!
 jmbar2 Sep 2021 #4
LineLineReply Formed 35 years ago, during the REAGAN Presidency, hmmmm...
 Captain Zero Sep 2021 #21
LineReply I'm not sure Frank Gaffney is extremist
 Klaralven Sep 2021 #5
LineLineReply I am. Gaffney is an extreme anti-Muslim "thinker."
 Ocelot II Sep 2021 #8
LineLineReply Ah yes, PNAC.
 jaxexpat Sep 2021 #16
LineLineReply Yeah... no. He and his group thought Obama was putting "Islamic symbols" on government logos
 ck4829 Sep 2021 #18
LineLineReply That's more of an argument that RW Jews are extremists than that Gaffney isn't
 JHB Sep 2021 #27
LineLineNew Reply Yeah no.
 Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #36
LineReply The first rule of Council for National Policy is,
 Ocelot II Sep 2021 #6
LineReply Hell, if the Eastman "how to carry out a coup" memo
 KPN Sep 2021 #9
LineReply Seems to me a lot of good investigative journalism comes from the Guardian, and
 wiggs Sep 2021 #10
LineReply Sniff sniff sniff sniff...smells like Nazi's and kid touchers to me. Lock'em up. nt
 Hotler Sep 2021 #12
LineReply How close is the GOP to becoming a terrorist organization?
 dlk Sep 2021 #14
LineLineReply Already there.
 2naSalit Sep 2021 #22
LineLineLineReply It's looking that way
 dlk Sep 2021 #23
LineLineNew Reply +1
 uponit7771 Sep 2021 #39
LineReply K&R
 ck4829 Sep 2021 #19
LineReply I would not be surprised if Mike Gallagher (R-Green Bay)
 Greybnk48 Sep 2021 #20
LineReply K&R - and bookmarking so I can find this later.
 calimary Sep 2021 #24
LineReply Recommended.
 H2O Man Sep 2021 #28
LineNew Reply Thanks for this. Just to add that this was also reported by the New York Times.
 ancianita Sep 2021 #30
LineNew Reply They are Nazis and hiding it
 ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #31
LineNew Reply How do anarchists maintain order?
 Marthe48 Sep 2021 #32
LineNew Reply And J. Edgar...
 3825-87867 Sep 2021 #33
LineNew Reply Sleazy fucks
 Blue Owl Sep 2021 #38

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:01 AM

Star Member madaboutharry (38,571 posts)

1. Don't think for a moment that if any of these

people lived in Germany in 1939 that they would have had the slightest hesitation of joining the nazi party.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:17 AM

Star Member FSogol (43,536 posts)

7. Don't think for a moment that if any of these

people lived in America in 1776 that they would have had the slightest hesitation of staying with England.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:21 AM

IthinkThereforeIAM (3,024 posts)

17. I will second that motion...


... I have said that about the GOP for the past 20 years.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:56 AM

Star Member FSogol (43,536 posts)

29. +1 n/t

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 12:48 PM

Star Member PatSeg (44,561 posts)

37. Oh yes, I've thought that many times

Different century, but the same type of authoritarians. It seems they have always been with us, but we usually manage to keep them under control. Trump revealed to us the weaknesses in our system and institutions, weaknesses that authoritarian types will take advantage of any chance they get.

Americans got too complacent for far too long and the devil is at the door.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:04 AM

Star Member SheltieLover (54,099 posts)

2. This is a BFD!

Not that there will be consequences, of course, for any illegat conspiracies or activities.

Ty for sharing!

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:40 AM

Star Member Hotler (10,003 posts)

11. I know, DOJ seems to be MIA.

Agent Mike, would you go down the hall and knock on the door of the DOJ and see if anyone answers,.
Thanks

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:07 AM

Star Member CentralMass (14,525 posts)

13. Yes not too many signs of life out of the DOJ

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:52 AM

Star Member George II (67,782 posts)

34. I'll say this one more time - the DOJ doesn't hold daily press briefings to provide the details....

....of all their investigations.

The fact that they're not on the front page of the Washington Post doesn't mean they're not doing anything.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:58 AM

Star Member Hekate (81,813 posts)

35. Tiresome, isn't it?

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:04 AM

Star Member malaise (252,854 posts)

3. Expose every one of them

That is all

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:37 AM

Star Member Captain Zero (5,247 posts)

21. Formed 35 years ago, during the REAGAN Presidency, hmmmm...

I think there may be more dots to connect, even yet.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:07 AM

Klaralven (7,510 posts)

5. I'm not sure Frank Gaffney is extremist

 

His views are probably fairly mainstream for right-wing Jews, although he is more outspoken. He's a disciple of Richard Perle, for example. Like many of them, he was involved in PNAC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century#Signatories_to_Statement_of_Principles

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:19 AM

Star Member Ocelot II (105,720 posts)

8. I am. Gaffney is an extreme anti-Muslim "thinker."

He was one of the extreme Islamophobes who inspired Anders Breivik to kill some 80 people in Norway 10 years ago.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:17 AM

Star Member jaxexpat (4,905 posts)

16. Ah yes, PNAC.

Membership reads like a who's who of those who manufactured the current state of the union.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:27 AM

Star Member ck4829 (34,181 posts)

18. Yeah... no. He and his group thought Obama was putting "Islamic symbols" on government logos

"The Center for Security Policy originated a conspiracy theory that the Obama administration manipulated the redesign of the Missile Defense Agency to look like his campaign logo. This theory then evolved to claims that the new logo incorporates the Islamic crescent as well. Only one problem with this is that this logo was changed before the 2008 election."

http://rw-infopedia.pbworks.com/w/page/117365805/Center%20for%20Security%20Policy
https://archive.thinkprogress.org/frank-gaffney-posits-that-missile-defense-logo-is-evidence-of-obamas-submission-to-shariah-17386118306/

For sake of the other side: I don't think anyone here was even saying Trump was putting "secret Russian symbols" on government logos.

Pretty psycho-extreme.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:49 AM

Star Member JHB (36,118 posts)

27. That's more of an argument that RW Jews are extremists than that Gaffney isn't

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 12:11 PM

Star Member Kingofalldems (36,811 posts)

36. Yeah no.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:16 AM

Star Member Ocelot II (105,720 posts)

6. The first rule of Council for National Policy is,

you don't talk about Council for National Policy.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:27 AM

Star Member KPN (14,537 posts)

9. Hell, if the Eastman "how to carry out a coup" memo

can’t make MSM news, this sure in hell won’t.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:33 AM

Star Member wiggs (7,188 posts)

10. Seems to me a lot of good investigative journalism comes from the Guardian, and

often our big US media won't run it especially if it exposes some of the worst from TFG.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:03 AM

Star Member Hotler (10,003 posts)

12. Sniff sniff sniff sniff...smells like Nazi's and kid touchers to me. Lock'em up. nt

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:12 AM

Star Member dlk (10,073 posts)

14. How close is the GOP to becoming a terrorist organization?

Lately, they are checking off quite a few of the boxes

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:37 AM

Star Member 2naSalit (67,832 posts)

22. Already there.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:39 AM

Star Member dlk (10,073 posts)

23. It's looking that way

NT

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

Star Member uponit7771 (88,365 posts)

39. +1

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:32 AM

Star Member ck4829 (34,181 posts)

19. K&R

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:36 AM

Star Member Greybnk48 (9,833 posts)

20. I would not be surprised if Mike Gallagher (R-Green Bay)

is connected to this group. He's a Scott Walker protege, but doesn't like it brought up publicly these days (eyes on the White House).

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

Star Member calimary (73,987 posts)

24. K&R - and bookmarking so I can find this later.

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:53 AM

Star Member H2O Man (70,598 posts)

28. Recommended.

Thank you for this! And for everything you do here! Much appreciated!

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:14 AM

Star Member ancianita (30,169 posts)

30. Thanks for this. Just to add that this was also reported by the New York Times.

from Wikipedia

The Jan6 Committee should ask Steve Bannon about his connection between the Jan5 meeting and who attended and what was discussed the last time the CNP met. All such secrecy and secret societies are anti-democratic.

Allow enough of them to proliferate and they demolish democracy.

It [the Council for National Policy, founded by Tim LaHaye and other conservative Christians] has been described by The New York Times as "a little-known club of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country", who meet three times yearly behind closed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference.[4] The Nation has called it a secretive organization that "networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy".[5] The organization has been described as a "pluto-theocracy".[6]

The membership list for September 2020 was later leaked, showing that members included prominent Republicans and conservatives, wealthy entrepreneurs, and media proprietors, together with anti-abortion and anti-Islamic extremists. Members are instructed not to reveal their membership, or even name the group.[7]...

Marc J. Ambinder of ABC News said about the council: "The group wants to be the conservative version of the Council on Foreign Relations." The CNP was founded in 1981. Among its founding members were: Tim LaHaye, then the head of the Moral Majority, Nelson Bunker Hunt, T. Cullen Davis, William Cies, Howard Phillips,[8] and Paul Weyrich.[9]

Members of the CNP have included:

General John Singlaub, shipping magnate
J. Peter Grace, Edwin J. Feulner Jr of the Heritage Foundation,
Rev. Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcasting Network,
Jerry Falwell,
U.S. Senator Trent Lott,
Southern Baptist Convention activists and retired Texas Court of Appeals Judge Paul Pressler,
lawyer and paleoconservative activist Michael Peroutka,[10]
Reverend Paige Patterson,[11]
Senator Don Nickles,
former United States Attorneys General Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft,
gun-rights activist Larry Pratt,
Colonel Oliver North,
Steve Bannon,
Kellyanne Conway,
philanthropist Elsa Prince (mother of Blackwater founder and former CEO Erik Prince and Trump Administration Secretary of Education Betsy Devos),
Leonard Leo,[1]
Virginia Thomas (wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas),[1] and
ormer California State Assemblyman Steve Baldwin.[12]

Membership is by invitation only. The organization's membership list is considered "strictly confidential". Guests may attend "only with the unanimous approval of the executive committee." Members are instructed not to refer to the organization by name to protect against leaks.[4]



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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:17 AM

Star Member ZonkerHarris (22,063 posts)

31. They are Nazis and hiding it

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:21 AM

Star Member Marthe48 (11,657 posts)

32. How do anarchists maintain order?

Guess 3 meetings a year is all the order they can muster. Anarchists gonna anarch :/

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:28 AM

3825-87867 (579 posts)

33. And J. Edgar...

operated eagerly and openly going after those DFH, Peace-niks and ignoring Tail-Gunner Joe!

But...liberal media!

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Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:38 PM

Star Member Blue Owl (43,565 posts)

38. Sleazy fucks

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