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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMANCHIN asked by @AriNatter whether an energy company he founded is a conflict of interest as he...
MANCHIN: "I've been in a blind trust for 20 years, I have no idea what they're doing.
Ari: You're still getting dividends.
MANCHIN: "You got a problem?"
More from @AriNatter RE: the energy company Manchin founded: Your son still owns it, doesn't he?
MANCHIN: "You'd do best to change the subject."
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Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)Wonder what Democrats could do with that...
2naSalit
(86,508 posts)About his private plane and the yacht in DC where he entertains for lunch and other things. I wonder if it serves as a VRBO too.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Both have been public knowledge for years.
mobeau69
(11,139 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)As in "it was a revelation to me."
But point taken, what would be a better word? Reminder? Recollection?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)The obvious intent is to make it look like luxury living - when that true of most senators and the two specific examples (plane and yacht) are not exactly luxury items. One is a single engine prop plane (hes been a pilot for 40 years) and the other is a houseboat that is cheaper than almost any DC residence of another senator.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Maybe the intent was to "remind" people that even simple living down home Senators like Manchin have so much more money than the average American they are representing?
As for "spin", perhaps someone claiming "the two specific examples (plane and yacht) are not exactly luxury items" is the one engaging in "spin"?
Seems so.
Especially if that person may have been trying to imply that the "not exactly luxury item" single engine prop plane Manchin owns is within the financial reach of the common man.
Hmmm. What "non-luxury" plane exactly does Manchin own and how much is it currently worth?
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2010/january/pilot/pilots-joe-manchin-iii
Ok, he bought a brand new Piper Saratoga in 1981 and that is the plane he still owns and flies today. And what is that selling for today? Average current price is about $151,000.
https://www.globalplanesearch.com/listing/aircraft-for-sale/Splash/Piper-PA-32-301T-Turbo-Saratoga/153366#:~:text=Featured%20Aircraft%20for%20Sale%20%20%20%20Aircraft,%24252%2C342%20%20%20View%202001%20Aircraft%20%3E%20
Ok, but calling an approximately $151,000 private airplane a "non luxury item" is spin. The spinniest spin spin spin.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)No US senators are likely to qualify.
We're implicitly comparing him to the senators who are currently contesting with him.
His estimated net worth is 67th in Congress according to OpenSecrets.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)That was spin plain and simple.
Calling it a "luxury item well within the reach of most Senators" would have been more accurate, perhaps, but that is not what was said.
Sorry, but you were spinning when you called Senator Manchin's $151,000 private plane a "non luxury item", so pardon me if I don't let that whopper slide on by.
I have said all that I think pertinent on the topic of you referring to a $151,000 private plane as a "non luxury item", so, please, enjoy the rest of your day.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)The carying cost is quite likely cheaper than most senators flight costs.
Bettie
(16,085 posts)but publicized? Not really.
I didn't know about it until recently.
Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)trucks with the billboards on the side? Or regular billboards in his town or around WA DC?
Maybe we could all flood his FB and Twitter pages with this information. I'd do it. Someone come up with the the correct information in a short paragraph; I'd be happy to spread it around. I'd also donate money to get the billboards going.
I think the answer is we have to make him squirm by exposing him and his family.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Hmmm you may be right. Perhaps I should recuse myself from the entire reconciliation debate
Beachnutt
(7,310 posts)now tighten the vice.
spanone
(135,815 posts)I guess all these freeloaders wanting affordable childcare and to save the planet from burning up are bankrupting our grandkids (who will of course be burnt up...)
jalan48
(13,854 posts)phylny
(8,377 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)True Democrats are not like this at all. Ugh
He's about some folks with a lot more money than himself...
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)vanlassie
(5,668 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 30, 2021, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Really? What a red flag.
oregonjen
(3,335 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)And he was stupid to admit there is a scab to be picked at.
Peregrine Took
(7,412 posts)Bet that's going to bug him all day. LOL
Thank God for courageous press people.
Takket
(21,552 posts)Beachnutt
(7,310 posts)he cries uncle....
NewHendoLib
(60,013 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)Grabbing all the cash and attention he can, and lighting the house on fire as he exits.
We are better without him and his ilk. Even if it means losing. There I said it.
onethatcares
(16,165 posts)and says nothing.
and America keeps electing this kind of person to positions. I can't bring myself to say, "positions of leadership". Nope, no f ing way.
UTUSN
(70,672 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,850 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)and he likes it. No self-it seems.