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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,758 posts)
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:15 PM Sep 2021

Two service members move to block Pentagon vaccine requirement in court

Two service members filed a potential class action lawsuit against Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to attempt to block him from requiring all troops receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

Army Staff Sgt. Dan Robert and Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Hollie Mulvihill, who filed the complaint Aug. 17 in the U.S. District Court of Colorado, also want the Pentagon to create a vaccine exemption for those previously infected with the coronavirus as they already have "natural immunity."

The two, who are both based in North Carolina, argue that the Defense Department's vaccine mandate "is in open violation" of the rights of service members and is unconstitutional.

Austin is named as a defendant in the lawsuit as are Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra and Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/troops-move-to-block-pentagon-vaccine-requirement-in-court/ar-AAP0L6U

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Two service members move to block Pentagon vaccine requirement in court (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Oath keepers my ass ornotna Sep 2021 #1
Don't all members of the military services have to get a whole bunch of vaccinations Ocelot II Sep 2021 #2
They do Jerry2144 Sep 2021 #4
The first place you go when you join the Army is Reception Station jmowreader Oct 2021 #20
Just resign...or allow yourself to be discharged PortTack Sep 2021 #3
These people are too stupid to be trusted in the military StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #5
Are service members allowed to go outside of the chain of marybourg Sep 2021 #6
Yes they can file lawsuits in civil courts. twin_ghost Sep 2021 #7
Hell, we had two guys picked up by the FBI right out of the barracks in boot camp, in '72. marble falls Sep 2021 #10
Trainee discharge with no benefits possible! twin_ghost Sep 2021 #12
The one guy had robbed a bank in Chicago, the other's name was Araby Araby and I think ... marble falls Sep 2021 #13
We had a guy from Korea have immigration troubles, but they let him finish Basic & AIT. twin_ghost Sep 2021 #14
Araby was just a nice guy, eager to be part of the unit. I'd like to think it all worked out ... marble falls Sep 2021 #15
Well I served during the Reagan Years. twin_ghost Oct 2021 #16
There's a lot of former Republicans here. I finally gave up when I realized that I had been ... marble falls Oct 2021 #17
Yes, I will vote for a fair minded judge that is a republican. twin_ghost Oct 2021 #18
Conservative judges who love the law and respect the Constitution are acceptable if there's ... marble falls Oct 2021 #19
Maybe they can sue for having to get up too early, too. Nt Baked Potato Sep 2021 #8
Two more RWers that need weeding out. That they are so stupid to think they will prevail ... marble falls Sep 2021 #9
I assume this won't go well. Johonny Sep 2021 #11
Hollie sounds like a real winner Skittles Oct 2021 #21

Ocelot II

(115,610 posts)
2. Don't all members of the military services have to get a whole bunch of vaccinations
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:18 PM
Sep 2021

almost as soon as they enlist, no exceptions? Why should this one be any different?

Jerry2144

(2,081 posts)
4. They do
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:24 PM
Sep 2021

So disobeying a lawful order. Sounds like something the courts martial should address. But then to E-1, give them a several year stay at Club Fed making Little Rock’s from big ones, then dishonorable discharge. Vaccinations are mandatory for the service since disease can take down a unit easily

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
20. The first place you go when you join the Army is Reception Station
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:35 AM
Oct 2021

This is where you get your haircuts, uniforms, kill off two trees filling out paperwork...I was in Reception for a week - I think it's longer now - and there were two immunization sessions during that time. Then a few weeks after you join your basic training company you are marched back to Reception Station for a third round of immunizations.

twin_ghost

(435 posts)
7. Yes they can file lawsuits in civil courts.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:45 PM
Sep 2021

The military has the option to just discharge them from the service for not being compatible with the service for refusing the vaccine. It doesn't take a lot to discharge a military member in 30 days with no UCMJ action happening. Back when I was in the US Army in the 1980's if a soldier was arrested for a serious civilian crime the army would discharge them under general conditions and deliver the paperwork to the soldier in jail.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
13. The one guy had robbed a bank in Chicago, the other's name was Araby Araby and I think ...
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:43 PM
Sep 2021

... his problem was with documentation fraud used to enlist. He might have gotten deported.

twin_ghost

(435 posts)
14. We had a guy from Korea have immigration troubles, but they let him finish Basic & AIT.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:46 PM
Sep 2021

I don't know what happened to him after that.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
15. Araby was just a nice guy, eager to be part of the unit. I'd like to think it all worked out ...
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:50 PM
Sep 2021

... but, you know, the Nixon years.

twin_ghost

(435 posts)
16. Well I served during the Reagan Years.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:08 AM
Oct 2021

I actually voted for him in 84, but changed to democrats in 1988 and onward.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
17. There's a lot of former Republicans here. I finally gave up when I realized that I had been ...
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:19 AM
Oct 2021

... voting for Democrats for national office for about twenty years. I do vote for one GOP judge. I know Judge Oak and he is a fair judge, and he hasn't had anyone run against him in the fifteen or so years I've been in town.

twin_ghost

(435 posts)
18. Yes, I will vote for a fair minded judge that is a republican.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:57 AM
Oct 2021

As long as they stick to the law then they are a OKAY in my book.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
19. Conservative judges who love the law and respect the Constitution are acceptable if there's ...
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:03 AM
Oct 2021

... no progressives running.

A fairly conservative SCOTUS smacked 45 down a load of times.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
9. Two more RWers that need weeding out. That they are so stupid to think they will prevail ...
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:24 PM
Sep 2021

... means they are too stupid to be carrying weapons.

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