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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:26 PM Sep 2021

Jan. 6 Committee Came To Chew Bubble Gum And Drop Subpoenas, Is All Out Of Bubble Gum




https://www.wonkette.com/jan-6-committee-came-to-chew-bubble-gum-and-drop-subpoenas-is-all-out-of-bubble-gum

It's going down for real at the House Select Committee investigating the Capitol Riot, with 11 more subpoenas dropping yesterday. Because time is short, and no one is farting around with a request for voluntary appearance so Team Insurrection can wait 'til the last second before putting a "no" on their RSVP.

This latest batch of invites went to organizers of the march, most notably Amy and Kylie Jane Kremer, the mother-daughter duo leading the group Women for America First, and former Trump spox Katrina Pierson. These brave patriots are invited to hand over their documents by mid-October and then come in for a friendly chat two weeks later.

ProPublica reported on the power struggle between Kremer and the more radical, potentially violent groups, such as the Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, and Proud Boys, who were drawn in by Alex Jones and Ali Alexander. The White House was not only aware that these self-styled militia members were headed to DC, but in fact Trump and his allies had the final say on how things went down that day.

Alexander and Jones wanted to speak at the Ellipse rally, but Kremer was opposed. The provocateurs found a powerful ally in Caroline Wren, an elite Republican fundraiser with connections to the Trump family, particularly Donald Trump Jr. and his partner, Kimberly Guilfoyle. Wren had raised money for the Ellipse rally and pushed to get Alexander and Jones on stage, according to six people involved in the Jan. 6 rally and emails reviewed by ProPublica.

Pierson, the Trump campaign official, had initially been asked by Wren to help mediate the conflict. But Pierson shared Kremer's concern that Jones and Alexander were too unpredictable. Pierson and Wren declined to comment.

On Jan. 2, the fighting became so intense that Pierson asked senior White House officials how she should handle the situation, according to a person familiar with White House communications. The officials agreed that Alexander and Jones should not be on the stage and told Pierson to take charge of the event.


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Jan. 6 Committee Came To Chew Bubble Gum And Drop Subpoenas, Is All Out Of Bubble Gum (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
The REAL Donald tRump has been exposed Blue Owl Sep 2021 #1
Wonkette's optimism is adorable. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #2
Previous subpoenas weren't enforced because Trump's US Attorneys wouldn't do it StarfishSaver Oct 2021 #3
Sure hope you're right. maxsolomon Oct 2021 #4
This wouldn't operate the way it did before under Trump StarfishSaver Oct 2021 #5

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
2. Wonkette's optimism is adorable.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 11:59 PM
Sep 2021

Trump and his minions completely ignored Congressional subpoenas, and suffered zero consequences. Zero.

Until the House enforces them, they're meaningless.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Previous subpoenas weren't enforced because Trump's US Attorneys wouldn't do it
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:33 AM
Oct 2021

We're in an entirely different situation now.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
4. Sure hope you're right.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:29 AM
Oct 2021

If past performance is any indicator of future results, the process of enforcing subpoenas will take months in the courts, and push the committee's work up against the Midterms, if not past it.

I wish I wasn't cynical about this; I think I have TFG PTSD.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. This wouldn't operate the way it did before under Trump
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:22 PM
Oct 2021

Those cases took a long time because Congress had to go to court and file suit to try to enforce the subpoenas because the Justice Department refused to prosecute them. That's a much longer and more cumbersome process .

Now that DOJ is no longer part of the problem, Congress just needs to refer obstruction of Congress charges to the US Attorney and they can go straight to court to enforce the subpoenas through criminal prosecutions and court orders, which is a much more expedited process.

And I'm pretty sure the committee would not have issued these subpoenas with such fanfare had they not received assurances from DOJ that it would enforce them.

I understand your trepidation, but past practice of the last few years is not the norm and isn't likely to be the model for how things proceed now.

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