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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:17 PM Oct 2021

Jayapal Says She's Spoken To Sinema, Who's 'Very Engaged'

Jayapal Says She’s Spoken To Sinema, Who’s ‘Very Engaged’

The progressive leader told “Meet the Press” that she talked to Sinema about infrastructure last weekend.

“I do think she’s very engaged,” Jayapal said. “I know she cares about climate, and I know she cares about some of these other things.”

The Democrat said that she’s “going to assume the best of” Sinema and Manchin “and say that we need both of them.”

“Just like we need every single member of the House,” Jayapal added, noting that her chamber only has a three-vote majority.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/live-blog/bidens-two-track-infrastructure-plan-is-back-on-track




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Jayapal Says She's Spoken To Sinema, Who's 'Very Engaged' (Original Post) bluewater Oct 2021 OP
Keep talking to SineManchin, and insert earmarks/bribes in the bill. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #1
I wonder if there are any F-35s in the bill? George II Oct 2021 #8
Must have been near the time of that private meetup with the President. Budi Oct 2021 #2
Even if Sinema finally steps in line and votes the D way she's never going to get my vote again. in2herbs Oct 2021 #3
Understandable, but is there a viable primary opponent, who could go OnDoutside Oct 2021 #7
There's talk about Gregg Stanton, Kelly's twin brother (but I thought he lived in TX) and in2herbs Oct 2021 #9
If she runs as a Democrat in the next election against a republican you won't vote for her? George II Oct 2021 #10
I will leave that position blank. See other post for other potential candidates. nt in2herbs Oct 2021 #13
She isn't winning shite if her numbers stay like this with AZ Dems: Favourable 17%, Unfavourable 65% Celerity Oct 2021 #26
From what we see - she's knows how to win in a statewide election in Arizona. Who else can? George II Oct 2021 #27
Katie Hobbs for sure, but she is running for Governor. Ruben Gallego perhaps Celerity Oct 2021 #28
Same here. kairos12 Oct 2021 #12
So do we like Sinema now? Or not? Budi Oct 2021 #4
Are you asking if we "like like" Sinema? bluewater Oct 2021 #5
Don't know exactly what we're sposd to do now. Budi Oct 2021 #6
Serious question? Ok... bluewater Oct 2021 #11
Good question. Perhaps those labels should be redefined. Budi Oct 2021 #14
That is why some people feel both see the end of their political careers and are trying to cash in. bluewater Oct 2021 #15
Yes; it's about cash, not votes. Both will deservedly disappear after their next elections. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #18
Agree with you on the exit. Which also means we have to pull some Dem Senators Budi Oct 2021 #20
Polls for the Senate are actually pretty good. bluewater Oct 2021 #21
Yup. Thanks for the convo, bluewater Budi Oct 2021 #22
She's "engaged". I'm still "enraged" unless she does something decent. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #16
Sinema loves all the attention I'm sure. Will it be enough to get her on board with other Dems? jalan48 Oct 2021 #17
Engaged to the drama lame54 Oct 2021 #19
She also endorsed NinaTurner for congress. BoomaofBandM Oct 2021 #23
So did Katie Porter and I think AOC, but we Ohioans aren't going to put Clinton/Biden hating Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #24
I was very proud of Ohio dems and disappointed in party members who endorsed Turner. BoomaofBandM Oct 2021 #25
I hope they pay attention to this at 2:33 DFW Oct 2021 #29

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. Keep talking to SineManchin, and insert earmarks/bribes in the bill.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:19 PM
Oct 2021

That's the only thing that might work.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
9. There's talk about Gregg Stanton, Kelly's twin brother (but I thought he lived in TX) and
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:01 PM
Oct 2021

Gallego, to name a few.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. If she runs as a Democrat in the next election against a republican you won't vote for her?
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:04 PM
Oct 2021

Can you name a Democrat in Arizona other than her who has a chance of beating a republican?

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
28. Katie Hobbs for sure, but she is running for Governor. Ruben Gallego perhaps
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:20 PM
Oct 2021

and others will appear. Sinema is very likely toast whether she stays Dem, goes Indy, or goes Rethug. She seems either clueless about PR or she simply doesn't give a toss, and is angling for a big payday post-Senate.

I worry far more about her than Manchin. She seems very unstable, and could truly fuck the entire party for years if she goes full rogue.

kairos12

(12,857 posts)
12. Same here.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:06 PM
Oct 2021

If she has an opponent I will campaign vigorously against her.

Let her run as a Republican.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. Serious question? Ok...
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:05 PM
Oct 2021

Not that we have that much leverage on Sen. Sinema since her term runs until 2024, but keeping pressure on her in any way possible seems the most reasonable thing to do:

Sinema is considered a moderate Democrat and was identified as the 47th most conservative member of the Senate in a 2019 analysis by the nonpartisan organization GovTrack.us.[4][5] During the 116th Congress, she voted with President Donald Trump's position roughly 25% of the time, the second-most of any Democratic senator to serve during the full term.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrsten_Sinema


Just as a side note, I realize that the labeling conventions for elected Democrats are arbitrary and change over time, but how does the 47th most conservative member of the entire Senate get labelled as a "moderate Democrat'?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. Good question. Perhaps those labels should be redefined.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:26 PM
Oct 2021

Since you mentioned her election, here's an interesting data chart on both her & Manchin's last electoral districts.
Perhaps it helps define where these 2 stand in comparison to their districts.
I knew they were both from Red districts, just didn't realize what a task they actually pulled off in that election.
I recall the critical stakes in trying to just possibly take a trifecta.
And we did eek it out! And we celebrated the imposdible achievement of taking the Senate after many years in Repub control.
A bfd, as we all declared!

So just for the sake of info:

Here's Manchin:






Here's Sinema:


bluewater

(5,376 posts)
15. That is why some people feel both see the end of their political careers and are trying to cash in.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

It's very possible that both will not be re-elected, hence cozying up to special interests now might give them a golden parachute and a soft landing for their lives after the Senate.

Thanks for the information.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Yes; it's about cash, not votes. Both will deservedly disappear after their next elections.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:33 PM
Oct 2021

We need to start laying groundwork for better replacements.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. Agree with you on the exit. Which also means we have to pull some Dem Senators
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:39 PM
Oct 2021

..from other States if we want to keep the Senate.
These 2 seats will probably go to Repubs if they do leave.

As for AZ we really must unite behind the most high profiled D candidate with the highest #'s we can run.

Suit up cuz it will be an expensive brutal battle.



bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. Polls for the Senate are actually pretty good.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:43 PM
Oct 2021

Maintaining at least a 50-50 split is as close to a sure thing as you can get this far out.

And picking up an additional 2 seats looks very good, with an outside chance of getting a third.

Fingers crossed.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
24. So did Katie Porter and I think AOC, but we Ohioans aren't going to put Clinton/Biden hating
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:13 PM
Oct 2021

Turner in a House seat. She was running in my district and I campaigned for and voted for
Shontel Brown.

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