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Nevilledog

(51,007 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:27 PM Oct 2021

Maricopa Hoax: The Ninjas made up the numbers

https://real-audits.org/2021/10/01/maricopa-hoax-the-ninjas-made-up-the-numbers/

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While everyone was breathing relief that the Ninjas exercise – don’t call it an audit – upheld Maricopa County’s official results, our antennas were already up because three pesky facts have continued to bother us.

1. The Ninjas did not count the same set of ballots. The Cyber Ninjas said their results tracked the county’s certified results even though they decided to count about 27,000 ballots that Maricopa Elections did not count and ignore about the same number of ballots Maricopa did count. When ballots are damaged or fail tabulation, a two-person bi-partisan team copies the voter’s choices onto a clean ballot in a process called “duplication.” The Cyber Ninjas, claiming there were fewer original ballots than duplicates, counted the original ballots and ignored the duplicates. Curious.

* Senator Fann is hiding something. The Senate continues to fight the release of public data on grounds that Arizona’s courts have decisively ruled against. Included in the withheld documents are batch and box-level ballot counts, just like those contained in Pullen’s report on the Senate’s machine count. More on this below.

* A curious anomaly. Garrett Archer, a reporter at Phoenix’s ABC15 News Affiliate, noticed that the ballot counts for the Presidential and the U.S. Senate contests did not match. The Ninjas excuse? “NOTE: Vote totals for the presidential and senatorial elections mismatch slightly primarily due to small differences (emphasis ours) in hand counts among the 2.1M million ballots.”

This last item – a mismatch in the ballot counts on contests that appeared on the same ballot – piqued our interest because such a mismatch should be impossible



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Maricopa Hoax: The Ninjas made up the numbers (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
an anomaly? SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #1
The paragraphs after that gives more info. Nevilledog Oct 2021 #2
unless they keep track of the races where no vote was cast MissMillie Oct 2021 #4
I never vote in races where there is just a R on the ballot for that office SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #5
Yeah, I get what you're saying MissMillie Oct 2021 #7
I'm shocked, shocked! Well not that shocked! Initech Oct 2021 #3
Yeah, I said last week that there was nothing about the Ninjas report that should matter MissMillie Oct 2021 #6
Agreed! It's all about that sweet payday. Initech Oct 2021 #8
there should be laws passed requiring Takket Oct 2021 #9

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
1. an anomaly?
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:31 PM
Oct 2021

I don't understand the question about the third point.
If just one voter voted only in the Presidential or Senate race and not the other, that would make the ballot counts for the two races not be the same.

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
5. I never vote in races where there is just a R on the ballot for that office
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

So for instance in my very red district, there could be 5,100 total ballots case, with 5,000 votes for the R for Governor, and only 4,900 votes for the less popular R running for Senate.

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
7. Yeah, I get what you're saying
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:39 PM
Oct 2021

But if they're keeping track, they would count 100 "no preference" votes for that Senate race.

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
6. Yeah, I said last week that there was nothing about the Ninjas report that should matter
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

They don't know what they're doing.

I don't care if it confirms a Biden win or not.

We know they didn't use an official voter registration database. We know that it's legal to vote at your old address if you've moved within a certain number of days before an election. We know that multiple people with the same name can be born in the same year.

Cyber Ninjas executed a grift. AZ forked out a very small portion of the money paid to the Cyber Ninjas (thank goodness) but Cyber Ninjas got nearly $6 million for this fraudit, and they used volunteers to do the work.

Any other state still thinking about contracting them should think twice.

Initech

(100,039 posts)
8. Agreed! It's all about that sweet payday.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:22 PM
Oct 2021

Calling Cyber Ninjas a bunch of incompetent buffoons is an understatement!

Takket

(21,528 posts)
9. there should be laws passed requiring
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:36 PM
Oct 2021

accreditation and licensure for firms doing election auditing. Nothing like this should ever happen again. No partisan entity should ever be allowed again to cherry pick some biased organization to do what they wish with our votes.

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