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Reality Bites, doesn't it Sen. Manchin (Original Post) Tommymac Oct 2021 OP
Thank you for pointing this out, my dear Tommymac! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2021 #1
Welcome. Tommymac Oct 2021 #3
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #2
He'll explain it by saying it's military spending and then threaten the reporter Fullduplexxx Oct 2021 #4
I wish that reporter had said Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #5
Or "that's no answer " or "is that a threat?" Fullduplexxx Oct 2021 #6
Manchin Did Vote Against TFG's Billionaire Tax Cut DanieRains Oct 2021 #7
See the Rockefeller's response to Sen Joe. Tommymac Oct 2021 #15
The Rockefellers would be considered flaming commies in today's Reptilian Party. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #19
Jay Rockefeller started out as GOP but switched to Dem IronLionZion Oct 2021 #29
Oops! Thanx! lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #44
manchin is responding to and enabled by constituencies that flew out of limbaugh's ass certainot Oct 2021 #36
Poll says 70% of WVers (including many who voted for tfg) support BBBBB*. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #18
I've seen poll numbers for it at 77% in WV. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #20
Bloomberg, Bezos or any other Dem-leaning billionaire should step up and tell him to refund Justice matters. Oct 2021 #21
I have to assume he has some conception of what a poll is. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #25
I forgot Jay Rockefeller is a Democrat (alright, I didn't know;))) Justice matters. Oct 2021 #26
Oh! Me too! lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #27
He's a sociopathic corporate (rhymes with "door"). OMGWTF Oct 2021 #32
Big defense budgets have no problem receiving bipartisan approval in our Congress. jalan48 Oct 2021 #8
K&R UCmeNdc Oct 2021 #9
At $7.8 TRILLION in taxes paid every single year X 10, there's MORE than enough to pay for this bill ancianita Oct 2021 #10
It may bite.. Patton French Oct 2021 #11
In the long run it will. Tommymac Oct 2021 #12
Yet he goes on TV complaining about inflation ruining his state IronLionZion Oct 2021 #13
plus he literally called the bill 'vengeful' taxation, and 'fiscal insanity' Celerity Oct 2021 #22
k and r Champp Oct 2021 #14
Nice Twitter Thing Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #16
republicans don't explain. Jakes Progress Oct 2021 #17
Goes hand and hand, Manchin politics: BeckyDem Oct 2021 #23
He doesn't give a shit Ferrets are Cool Oct 2021 #24
Not enough grift for his family. Xoan Oct 2021 #28
Explain? He won't explain. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #30
Hey, what's the ETA on those bipartisan-minded The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2021 #31
What makes you think he's reasonable? Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #33
Must be nice to earn 1/2 million in coal dividends every year. Rhiagel Oct 2021 #34
Wow, those bling trust investments aren't really very blind pandr32 Oct 2021 #41
Spot on. And he had the nerve to diss "entitlements." Rhiagel Oct 2021 #42
Agreed pandr32 Oct 2021 #43
Midas touch or some group similar qzwv8j Oct 2021 #35
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Oct 2021 #37
I'm afraid almost every politician in Washington has voted for every military budget proposed robbob Oct 2021 #38
I'm sure he made plenty of money voting for those defense bills dflprincess Oct 2021 #39
Trump said military service was for suckers and losers. Period. czarjak Oct 2021 #40

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,531 posts)
1. Thank you for pointing this out, my dear Tommymac!
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:44 PM
Oct 2021

He'd probably mumble something about national defense helps all of us, or some such malarkey!

Fullduplexxx

(7,846 posts)
4. He'll explain it by saying it's military spending and then threaten the reporter
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:56 PM
Oct 2021

"You'd do best to change the subject"

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
7. Manchin Did Vote Against TFG's Billionaire Tax Cut
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:11 PM
Oct 2021

He does get some credit for that.

It is just hard getting Republiscum in West Virginia to vote for him.

Gotta be a stick in the mud, and make sure you "trash liberals".

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
15. See the Rockefeller's response to Sen Joe.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016303253


Rockefellers have a message for Joe Manchin
Opinion by John D. Rockefeller V, Justin Rockefeller and Valerie Rockefeller
"We were raised in coal country, about two hours south of Sen. Joe Manchin's hometown, with a commitment to public service. Like Sen. Manchin, our father, five-term Sen. Jay Rockefeller, served as secretary of state and governor before being elected to the US Senate. And like Sen. Manchin, our father, who is now retired, has deep respect for the state's legacy of hard work and grit.

Manchin has served our state well. He is a caring and determined leader who we've been honored to know as our father's colleague and friend. Unfortunately, when it comes to our state's future (whether it's the jobs West Virginians will hold or the energy they'll consume), Manchin is sticking with a problematic past by opposing the Senate's $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. Only by supporting that bill can Manchin lead West Virginia boldly into the clean-energy future that will help the people he has been elected to serve.

Manchin could be the deciding vote on the reconciliation bill that would help fund infrastructure projects and a wide array of social programs. The senator expressed his concerns about the bill's price tag in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, yet failed to acknowledge that delaying the reconciliation bill and jeopardizing the infrastructure bill is a dangerous move that could end up costing the entire country, as well as the people of West Virginia.


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. The Rockefellers would be considered flaming commies in today's Reptilian Party.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:57 PM
Oct 2021

And probably by a significant chunk of our own politicians.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
29. Jay Rockefeller started out as GOP but switched to Dem
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:44 PM
Oct 2021

since way back in the day WV was a reliably dark blue state.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. manchin is responding to and enabled by constituencies that flew out of limbaugh's ass
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:37 PM
Oct 2021

and putin used llimbaugh in 2009 to create 'climategate', created from emails hacked by russians and taken out of context and used as 'proof' global warming is a hoax - just in time to undermine obama at copenhagen and save putin billions in fossil revenue

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
18. Poll says 70% of WVers (including many who voted for tfg) support BBBBB*.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:57 PM
Oct 2021

After pollsters explain in detail what it contains for the working class and the middle class.

*BBBBB: Biden's Build Back Better Bill

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. I've seen poll numbers for it at 77% in WV.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:59 PM
Oct 2021

Clearly, Manchin isn't thinking about constituents or votes; he's thinking about cash.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
21. Bloomberg, Bezos or any other Dem-leaning billionaire should step up and tell him to refund
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:06 PM
Oct 2021
his RW donors and that they will donate the same or even more to him.

That said, does he know these numbers? Or does he know by voting nay, he might as well lose his next election?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. I have to assume he has some conception of what a poll is.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:23 PM
Oct 2021

He's a politician.

I agree with your idea, but it would be hard to make it happen.

My thought is to put earmarks in, that would pay fossil fuel companies in WV to build wind farms. He'd get his cut, (a) because he is a fossil fuel company, and (b) his dirty donors would love him for it.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. In the long run it will.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:32 PM
Oct 2021

We just may not have that much time to save Our Democracy in it's present form.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
16. Nice Twitter Thing
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:48 PM
Oct 2021

That and two bucks will by him a cup of coffee......

Hint... Machin does not care one bit.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
17. republicans don't explain.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:54 PM
Oct 2021

They don't have to. Their electorate doesn't need reason or rational thought.

He may run as a Democrat, but we know better.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
23. Goes hand and hand, Manchin politics:
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
Oct 2021

Lone Democratic senator who stood for Trump's State of the Union applause lines and drew eye-rolls from Chuck Schumer says his party shouldn't 'sit there and frown'

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia was the only Democrat to stand and clap for parts of Donald Trump's State of the Union address
He says his party shouldn't 'sit there and frown' like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi did for an hour and 20 minutes on Tuesday night.

When Trump mentioned the U.S. motto 'In God We Trust,' all the Democrats except Manchin sat on their hands

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5335105/Manchin-Democrats-shouldnt-sit-frown.html



Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
24. He doesn't give a shit
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

All he cares about is HIS political and financial future...not necessarily in that order.

pandr32

(11,562 posts)
41. Wow, those bling trust investments aren't really very blind
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 12:36 PM
Oct 2021

This is why we need our senators, reps, officials and leaders disinvested into cash positions so they are not serving their portfolios instead of their constituents. Of course, it should also be impossible for unlimited dark money (err...bribes) to fund campaigns and we need tax returns each year.

The responsibility of service should not commingle with the opportunity to enrich oneself.

Rhiagel

(1,676 posts)
42. Spot on. And he had the nerve to diss "entitlements."
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 02:47 PM
Oct 2021

His dividends are "entitlements." He performed no labor nor shed any drop of sweat for this 1/2 mil other than possibly helping pass laws favorable to the coal industry.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
38. I'm afraid almost every politician in Washington has voted for every military budget proposed
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 06:51 PM
Oct 2021

In American it’s political suicide to even mildly suggest that perhaps the USA doesn’t NEED to spent 10X as much (or whatever it is) then any other country on the planet funding and equipping its armed forces.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
39. I'm sure he made plenty of money voting for those defense bills
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:17 PM
Oct 2021

Unfortunately those of us who benefit from the BBB Act, just can't come up with that big a b̶r̶i̶b̶e̶ contribution.

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