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Nevilledog

(51,057 posts)
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:17 PM Oct 2021

Why You Suddenly Need To Delete Google Chrome



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Why you suddenly need to quit Google Chrome

While Facebook steals the headlines, Google’ alarming new update that hasn’t yet made headlines puts Chrome’s 2.6 billion users at risk of “surveillance, manipulation and abuse.”

Why You Suddenly Need To Delete Google Chrome
Billions of users warned to quit Chrome as new tracking nightmare comes true...
forbes.com
6:16 AM · Oct 2, 2021


https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/10/02/stop-using-google-chrome-on-windows-10-android-and-apple-iphones-ipads-and-macs/?sh=6d81630a2f30

An alarming new update from Google that hasn’t yet made headlines has suddenly put Chrome’s 2.6 billion users at risk of “surveillance, manipulation and abuse.” If you’re one of those users, this nasty new surprise just gave you a reason to quit.

Chrome has serious issues when it comes to protecting your security and your privacy. The world’s leading browser has issued one urgent fix after another this year, as high-risk exploits have been found in the wild; and just a few weeks ago, Google finally admitted it had “accidentally” allowed millions of users to be secretly tracked.

Google says it wants to change, to put your privacy first, that web tracking is now out of control and has resulted in “an erosion of trust.” But as DuckDuckGo warns, “it’s all noise until Google actually agrees to collect less data and do less behavioral targeting.”

The latest tracking nightmare for Chrome users comes in two parts. First, Google has ignored security warnings and launched a new Chrome API to detect and report when you’re “idle,” i.e., not actively using your device. Apple warns “this is an obvious privacy concern,” and Mozilla that it’s “too tempting an opportunity for surveillance.”

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Why You Suddenly Need To Delete Google Chrome (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
kick Dawson Leery Oct 2021 #1
Better just stay off the Internet altogether, eh? MineralMan Oct 2021 #2
I heard that. ancianita Oct 2021 #26
Please see my reply to MineralMan lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #43
Thanks, lambchopp59, I'll look into this. ancianita Oct 2021 #63
I recentlly switched to a Linux OS and use the "brave" browser. lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #42
I don't think the average person on DU can easily switch to Linux..LOL LeftInTX Oct 2021 #53
Brave runs on multiple platforms. Pinback Oct 2021 #59
I have Windows LeftInTX Oct 2021 #61
My question AnnetteChaffee Oct 2021 #47
Yes I'm starting to wonder what I *can* use. ismnotwasm Oct 2021 #52
Kick dalton99a Oct 2021 #3
Interesting. Microsoft wants me to store things MineralMan Oct 2021 #9
Same here with Apple. I don't use its cloud, either, just an external Big Byte hard drive, ancianita Oct 2021 #34
I know what you mean, Mineral Man. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #40
I'm having problems with Firefox and am using Chrome more now LeftInTX Oct 2021 #60
I have no use for Star-Thrower Oct 2021 #44
I'm having the worst time with that intrusive One Drive LeftInTX Oct 2021 #57
Well, I got my documents back, but the dates on them got messed up! LeftInTX Oct 2021 #64
It's ok...I only use Chrome for Facebook! Maeve Oct 2021 #4
Yeah, Forbes ... CloudWatcher Oct 2021 #5
Thanks for that. This is why I love DU. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #10
+1 Xoan Oct 2021 #12
Agreed. nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #54
If you delete Google Chrome now, you get put on a watch list. bluewater Oct 2021 #6
Ahhh, the Great Delete Deception! Champp Oct 2021 #51
I use Duck Duck Go Pas-de-Calais Oct 2021 #7
I've been running Firefox with 'strict' settings. Snarkoleptic Oct 2021 #8
The darn thing is, we don't know if these anti-snoopware apps work. erronis Oct 2021 #27
cant use chrome . too much of a memory hog and stomps all over other things . AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #11
No and really an article in Forbes cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #13
FireFox, Edge, and Opera are decent choices IronLionZion Oct 2021 #14
Never heard of Brave. I use Duck Duck Go but I'll check that out. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #15
They compete directly against Chrome on speed, memory, and privacy IronLionZion Oct 2021 #17
Thanks. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #18
I switched about a month ago to Brave on a Linux OS. It's impressive. lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #48
Brave works pretty well. crickets Oct 2021 #56
I've been very happy with Opera and I'm glad to read this Ron Obvious Oct 2021 #28
Chinese investors bought it IronLionZion Oct 2021 #32
I would bet the farm that there are a lot of other apps that do a lot worse things. Not a big fan yaesu Oct 2021 #16
Sorrry - much ado about not much. Tommymac Oct 2021 #19
Great post! Of course just staying off the internet and banking system might help. erronis Oct 2021 #29
This msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #31
Don't like Chrome, never have ironflange Oct 2021 #20
Been using Firefox..... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #38
Forbes. The people that launched TFG with a lie. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #21
+++++ msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #22
Forbes.... Xolodno Oct 2021 #24
I'm heading a project for identity verification... Xolodno Oct 2021 #23
That's why I use Lynx... hunter Oct 2021 #25
Lynx (or a predecessor) was my second browser after Mosaic! NullTuples Oct 2021 #30
I recommend Vivaldi as an easy alternative NullTuples Oct 2021 #33
Well that explains the funny behavior lately. Now how to fixit? usaf-vet Oct 2021 #35
I've read that Duck Duck Go is Chinese-owned. byronius Oct 2021 #36
Well that explains the funny behavior lately. Now how to fixit? usaf-vet Oct 2021 #37
Remind me why I care if Chrome knows everything about me? left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #39
True nuff RussBLib Oct 2021 #46
I also didn't care till I switched. lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #49
I know, right? ShazzieB Oct 2021 #50
How many of us take cell phones with us everywhere? left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #55
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek ! Champp Oct 2021 #41
Any Chromebook users here? RussBLib Oct 2021 #45
uBlock Origin kills most of the crap on Chrome and other popular browsers. hunter Oct 2021 #65
Why do I keep getting emails saying I need a bigger bra? left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #58
I don't use Chrome and never have precisely because it's spyware Spider Jerusalem Oct 2021 #62
I use Firefox and Safari ananda Oct 2021 #66
Time to switch back to my avatar Polybius Oct 2021 #67
No, dont tell me what to do, they can track me from Amazon to Pornhub, I dont care, lol Shanti Shanti Shanti Oct 2021 #68
Or just turn off idle mode tracking. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #69

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
2. Better just stay off the Internet altogether, eh?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:34 PM
Oct 2021

I notice in that article that no details are provided regarding exactly how this new update makes Google more dangerous.

Why is that, do you suppose?

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
63. Thanks, lambchopp59, I'll look into this.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:21 PM
Oct 2021

I've used Microsoft, Firefox, Chrome, and am now on Safari. It's really not the browser, just the user. I'm clear of ads but had tracking; now that I'm on a newer OS with Mac Air I'm apparently, though not certain, I'm free of tracking.

I'll look into Linux and bravo.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
42. I recentlly switched to a Linux OS and use the "brave" browser.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:58 PM
Oct 2021

I am impressed how lightning fast, how free of algorithmic "suggestions" that tend to be way off the mark anyhow: sick of seeing the likes of "since you're interested in politics look at this FOX NEWS, NEWSMAX or OAN snippet!!" one after another. Screw that game of whack-a-mole. Google's browsers had it's heyday, but I'm through.
Frankly I don't care what information they "collect", nothing to hide here. But the algorithmic profiling designed to sell you crap has gone way out of hand.
I agree it's not specifically "dangerous", just annoying and rendered my site-linked email address useless, flooded with SPAM lock stock, barrel. I created a new "professional" email to keep relatively clean, and relegated the old one as a "shopping" email, Let it flood, I can bulk "delete". But I need to find really important professional stuff without sorting through hundreds of ads hourly. That's the "danger" they're referring to. Sorry, lost the link to that info, it was over a month ago, prior to wiping out my OS and Chrome.

LeftInTX

(25,204 posts)
53. I don't think the average person on DU can easily switch to Linux..LOL
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:11 PM
Oct 2021

I had it for awhile, but I have some tech skills

Pinback

(12,153 posts)
59. Brave runs on multiple platforms.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

I use it on Mac and iOS. Firefox ismuch better than Chrome for privacy as well.

I've een avoiding Google and Chrome for years, ever since I found out the extent of their surveillance. For those are willing to invest a small amount of effort, it's fairly easy to improve online security and privacy.

LeftInTX

(25,204 posts)
61. I have Windows
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:28 PM
Oct 2021

I'm having problems with Firefox. It's turned into a resource hog. When I shut it down, it takes almost 15 minutes to get it going. again. Once it starts going it's great, but then if I go to site like google maps or any GIS site Firefox slows to a crawl, then eventually won't load pages. I've been with Firefox for 15 years, but I've been using Chrome more and more because certain websites are loading slowly in Firefox.

AnnetteChaffee

(1,979 posts)
47. My question
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:04 PM
Oct 2021

i like chrome, and don't want to delete it if there is another way. I wonder if there is any place that shows you how to opt out of the tracking, and other violations of privacy?

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
3. Kick
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:36 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.slashgear.com/google-drive-suggestions-in-chrome-could-raise-antitrust-red-flags-29693256/

Google Drive suggestions in Chrome could raise antitrust red flags

If you are an Android or Chrome user, most of the time, you’re also using other Google services, especially Search. Under the pretext of making it easier for its users, Google has always attempted to bundle these services together, like how Google apps are preinstalled on most Android phones or how Chrome integrates perfectly with Search. Google’s rivals, however, beg to differ and see it as a way for Google to monopolize those markets.

That hasn’t stopped Google from still trying anyway. It just announced yet another integration between its Chrome browser and Google Drive that, on its own, looks pretty harmless. Building on an announcement in 2019, Google is now showing suggestions to Drive files in Chrome’s New Tab Page. The idea is to “save end user time and mental load to navigate to relevant files,” as long as those files are on Google Drive.

This, however, is just the latest in a series of new features, both official and still in testing, that put Google’s other services and products at the forefront of the Chrome browser experience. Google just announced the integration of Lens and more Search features into Chrome on desktop and mobile. There are even clues that Chrome would soon offer a Search side panel as an incentive to use Search with Chrome rather than other search engines.

The Chrome and Drive integration will even be enabled by default for all users, including Google Workspace customers as well as those with personal Google accounts. While convenient for many users, there will be rival companies and regulators that will argue that Chrome as a Web browser shouldn’t be intricately tied to Google’s other products or at least offer the same access to rivals like Dropbox, Bing, and the like.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
9. Interesting. Microsoft wants me to store things
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

in its cloud. Google wants me to store things in Drive. I don't use either. I have a 1 terabyte hard drive on my desktop PC, and a 128 gigabyte thumb drive I use for backup purposes for important files. I also have a 1 terabyte external drive that I copy my entire PC drive to once a week. I don't store anything on my phone, except long enough to send it to my PC. I have a couple of tablets, but I don't store anything on them, either.

I have no use for anyone's cloud, so I don't use any of those. I don't use DropBox, either.

It's my PC and my data. That means that security is my job. I don't trust third parties with it.

Does Google track my Internet usage? Sure. I find that pretty useful, actually. My Internet usage is really, really boring.

ancianita

(36,013 posts)
34. Same here with Apple. I don't use its cloud, either, just an external Big Byte hard drive,
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:30 PM
Oct 2021

thumb drives, too. No password storage or service, etc. It's about my privacy on my terms.

ShazzieB

(16,351 posts)
40. I know what you mean, Mineral Man.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:47 PM
Oct 2021

I've been using Chrome for years now. Originally switched when one of my favorite websites stopped working properly on Firefox. I can't even remember what the problem was now, but I had been a loyal Firefox fan up until then.

Once I tried Chrome, I liked it so much that I started using it for everything and have never looked back. At this point, it would take a lot more than the vague threats in that article make me consider switching back. You'd have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands!

LeftInTX

(25,204 posts)
60. I'm having problems with Firefox and am using Chrome more now
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

I'm switching gradually.

Every time I close Firefox, it takes forever to load, so I open Chrome and do my business. 15 minutes later, Firefox is working..LOL..So, I go back and forth. However, it seems that many sites are just plain old slow on Firefox and then eventually moves to a crawl pace.

Star-Thrower

(309 posts)
44. I have no use for
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:01 PM
Oct 2021

the cloud. As for Chrome I abandoned all things Google years ago. I use Firefox as my browser and Duck Duck Go for searches.

LeftInTX

(25,204 posts)
57. I'm having the worst time with that intrusive One Drive
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021

I had turned it off in January, but then after a Sept Windows Update, it suddenly turned on. Then my files all disappeared from my HD, gosh...nothing but a headache. I think I'm figuring out how to retrieve my files from One Drive and keep them local and stop the sync but it's such a headache and time consuming! Instructions are not the easiest.

Of course the One Drive is already full at 5 GB and it's a huge resource hog. I hate it.

LeftInTX

(25,204 posts)
64. Well, I got my documents back, but the dates on them got messed up!
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:27 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:41 PM - Edit history (2)

What an ordeal...

One Drive had put a bunch in my Recycle Bin and restored those, but those were from 2017-Nov 12, 2020. They have a modified date, but no created date.
Then, I had another group from when I reinstalled Windows on November 13th, 2020 - March 13th, 2021. They have all have correct created date, but are all modified on Oct 2, 2021
Then another group from March 13th until today. They have correct modification dates, but all show they were created on Aug 20, 2021 or Oct 2, 2021...

So I've got three folders...

What a mess!

And if stupid One Drive is enabled, you can't do local back ups..

What an ordeal...I hate that thing. And you don't notice that it's on, unless you work on documents etc. Even if it gets turned on accidentally for one minute, I will have to go through this ordeal all over again.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
4. It's ok...I only use Chrome for Facebook!
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:37 PM
Oct 2021

I have FBPurity for Facebook and never go to links from it, so my "track" is sort of stopped in its tracks

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
5. Yeah, Forbes ...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:39 PM
Oct 2021

Coincidentally, a DU thread talking about the low quality of Forbes

Forbes is now owned 95% by the Chinese and they post repeated bullshit on Youtube
https://democraticunderground.com/10113189

Remember the media is all about alarmist clickbait.

All of the browsers have had issues, the ones that are maintained are getting security updates pretty often.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. If you delete Google Chrome now, you get put on a watch list.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

"They" will know.

Shhhhh.

It's smarter to keep Google Chrome and use it to do searches like "Why I love the Defense Industry"




Champp

(2,114 posts)
51. Ahhh, the Great Delete Deception!
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:07 PM
Oct 2021

Q is definitely either in front of or behind this, and also maybe the GooGx47 permutation. You could bet on it if you wanted to. I've heard that many people are saying this.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
8. I've been running Firefox with 'strict' settings.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 01:53 PM
Oct 2021

For add-ons, I've got AdBlock Plus, Ghostery, and EFF's "Privacy Badger".
Prolly should get a VPN, but this seems to work.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
27. The darn thing is, we don't know if these anti-snoopware apps work.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:22 PM
Oct 2021

We read reviews and trust those reviews. Even some well-known sites are known to peddle junk.

The only way to know if your information is leaking to the outside world is to establish a permanent log in your firewall (we trust that, right?) and make sure that every connection seems to be legit.

However all packets are now encrypted so looking at data being sent to some mother ship is probably not possible.

And good spies will notice that you are monitoring traffic. Hold off on sending stuff until your guard is down. Switch recipients as needed.

Cat and mouse.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
13. No and really an article in Forbes
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

Browsers that remember things are useful they are tools if you use them as a tool that will be fine just keep that in mind.

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
14. FireFox, Edge, and Opera are decent choices
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.techradar.com/best/browser

Brave is a good privacy browser if you don't want any tracking. It's always good to have options.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
48. I switched about a month ago to Brave on a Linux OS. It's impressive.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:04 PM
Oct 2021

Soon you'll discover how annoying Chrome was getting with it's algorithmic ad-links unless you "buy out" of dozens of options. Trying to keep ahead of their "settings" game became whack-a-mole.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
56. Brave works pretty well.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:14 PM
Oct 2021

It includes a somewhat controversial ad program that will 'pay' you to leave certain ads on, but there's an option to disable and ignore that part of it, which I immediately did. After installing a few of the obligatory extensions (AdBlock Plus, Cookie AutoDelete, Disconnect, Enhancer for YouTube, and a couple of other little doodads) I feel good about the security level and I'm happy with how it works. Performance is fairly speedy, and Brave seems good about keeping security up to date. As browsers go, it's supposed to be one of the best in terms of privacy protection. There is no perfect browser, but I'm content with Brave.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
28. I've been very happy with Opera and I'm glad to read this
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:23 PM
Oct 2021

But isn't Opera linked to China in some fashion?

I wouldn't dream of using its VPN or Crypto-wallet or whatever in any case. I never use Cloud services either,

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
32. Chinese investors bought it
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:29 PM
Oct 2021

but I haven't read about anything nefarious going on with the browser. I don't use their VPN and don't trust any crypto stuff from anywhere.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
16. I would bet the farm that there are a lot of other apps that do a lot worse things. Not a big fan
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021

of any one browser but they are all free to use, serve a purpose so if they want to know when I walk the dogs or take a crap more power to them.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
19. Sorrry - much ado about not much.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:02 PM
Oct 2021

Every browser out there tracks you in some way or another.

If you accept cookies, you are being tracked.

If you send an email, you can be traced. Emails exist a long long time out in the wild.

If you do anything at all on the WWW your are probably being tracked and traced in some form or another.

If you use a cell phone you can be traced.

Shop at the grocer using that little plastic rewards card and your detailed shopping habits ARE being tracked.

If you live in a cave, wash your clothes and bathe in the creek, grow your own food from wild seeds, trap small animals for food, make your own clothes and shoes and furniture...maybe you can stay out of view of the satellites in orbit or the planes flying over head that may take pictures for Google maps, and not be tracked.

I work in the IT security field. Browsers and the WWW are not meant to be private. They are usually provided free of charge, and financed by the advertising industry. Most use some form of tracking. Chromium based browsers are a dime a dozen...there are many that limit the tracking, but none eliminate all of it. Mozilla based browsers can be loose or tight security wise. Those who have the technical ability can harden all of these to some extent...but to lock them down 100% means that they will not work well.

Most of the tracking is not meant to identify you personally, but your shopping habits for ad placement. And face it, no one is really interested in the particulars of each of the 7 Billion or so who live on spaceship Earth. We greatly inflate our own importance.

The wired (or wireless) 21st Century is NOT the century of privacy. Learn to protect yourself as you can (VPN, 2-Factor authentication, learn how to spot the bad people, secure pass phrases, which cookies are safe and which are dangerous) and get over it.



erronis

(15,216 posts)
29. Great post! Of course just staying off the internet and banking system might help.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:27 PM
Oct 2021

but demographic and other information (birth records, hospital visits, car and driver licenses, rent/mortgage/utilities...)

Even those KGB/FSB spies with manufactured identities who are sent to dispose of putin's annoyances can be identified (many thanks to bellingcat.)

msfiddlestix

(7,272 posts)
31. This
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:28 PM
Oct 2021

Been using chrome for years, despite all of the surveillance alerts which initially sent me a skittering, downloading duck duck go etc. complete waste of time and mental energy, it should understood by now.

I'm not an IT person on any level. but at this point I'm fully aware that all of our devices is being monitored primarily for commercial purposes, and they have that nailed to a science. On the other hand

Govt intel agencies, seem to be doing a really lousy job if the last five years hasn't revealed that much.

everything we do now is done electronically. I even have my proof of covid vaccination on my phone with Ca state verification QC.

The tech industry Surveillance ship sailed a long time ago, if anyone uses the computer, a cell phone or streaming Roku, this alert is pointless.

Because I play/learn a very specific genre of music, I'm really glad google/youtube has a handle on my personal interests saves me a lot of time hunting certain things down.




SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
38. Been using Firefox.....
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:44 PM
Oct 2021

seemingly forever now, and I've had no reason to change.
Whenever I visit some site and get a pop-up that asks if I'd "like to switch to Chrome" I just chuckle and close it.
I also use McAfee VPN, which raises hell with my frequently visited sites because they can't track me, but it's a small price to pay for a little privacy.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
21. Forbes. The people that launched TFG with a lie.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:04 PM
Oct 2021
In 1985, Trump appeared by himself on the Forbes 400 list of America’s richest people for the first time, after inventing a fake persona to lie about a transfer of wealth from his father.

Forbes fell for that ruse—taking Fred Trump off the list and listing Donald alone.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/05/08/why-we-took-trump-off-the-forbes-400-during-his-decade-of-tax-losses/?sh=2c51fd4033d9


Not exactly top journalists. I think I'll keep my Chrome for now.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
24. Forbes....
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:13 PM
Oct 2021

...where an author of one article confused the law of Diminishing Marginal Returns to the theory of Returns to Scale.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
23. I'm heading a project for identity verification...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:10 PM
Oct 2021

...in talking with a number of vendors, one thing I realized, we have no privacy and everything we do online is tracked. One may not like it, but on the flip side, it also protects you.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
30. Lynx (or a predecessor) was my second browser after Mosaic!
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:28 PM
Oct 2021

I still habitually use it for quick lookups of info when I'm in CLI.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
33. I recommend Vivaldi as an easy alternative
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:30 PM
Oct 2021

It's built off Chromium, as are nearly all browsers now, but puts an emphasis on user control, but without being overly complex (unless you want to poke around). It's a really nice balance, in my opinion.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
36. I've read that Duck Duck Go is Chinese-owned.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

And upthread -- Forbes. It would make sense that they'd push this hard.

Right-wingers use Duck Duck Go because it theoretically doesn't track your surfing. But that's the big trap, right? Appeal to the paranoid, pull them into a 'safe' space and then do exactly what the article accuses Google of doing. I don't trust the Chinese to be concerned about my privacy -- or any profit-seeking entity full of sociopaths on the board. It's all a swamp.

I don't know, man. It's a choice the way gas stations are a choice, or telecom providers are a choice -- without serious government regulation, the lowest common denominator rules. Corporatacracy reigns. And corporations don't have a moral compass whatsoever -- if child labor was legal in the US, 89% of US corporations would use child labor. Comcast probably has white papers for this eventuality. In fact, Comcast probably does it already -- there's a perfect example of an insane, ruthless, inhumane beast lunging at the already-weakened rusty bars of convention.

It's not about which corporation to trust. It's about how we deal with our emerging Rollerball culture.

#1 -- all money out of politics. Publically financed elections are a start. Hand counted paper ballots and rigorous devotion to democratic principles -- i.e. forbid gerrymandering, caging and hostile foreign-owned media posing as patriots.

Until then -- expect every major player to play dirty.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
39. Remind me why I care if Chrome knows everything about me?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:46 PM
Oct 2021


If it's not Chrome it's Facebook.
If it's not Facebook it's Amazon.
If it's not Amazon it's Uncle Sam.

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
46. True nuff
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:03 PM
Oct 2021

I don't think I mind all that much. I'm old with nothing to hide. I used to care about the skeletons in my closet. When I was young.

ShazzieB

(16,351 posts)
50. I know, right?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:06 PM
Oct 2021

It's like people being afraid the covid vaccine contains something that can be used to track them. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T, but even if it did, that fear is absurd,, because we're all being tracked already, in tons of different ways, including many we'll never be aware of.

I have to laugh at the ad tracking on Chrome. They show me the same exact things, over and over. Sometimes I get two identical ads on the same page at the same time. Chrome really doesn't have much imagination.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
41. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek !
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:49 PM
Oct 2021

Can there be no peace, no privacy, no avoidance of corporo-fascist personal info & nut-grabbing?

Get your wretched corporate nose out of my digital bunghole.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek !

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
45. Any Chromebook users here?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:02 PM
Oct 2021

And I wonder if Chromebooks would be susceptible to the same issues as the Chrome browser?

Wouldn't a Chromebook use the Chrome browser?

So many stories about the Chrome browser, and they never seem to mention Chromebooks.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
65. uBlock Origin kills most of the crap on Chrome and other popular browsers.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:20 PM
Oct 2021
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

I allow advertising on sites I frequently visit if they don't offer subscriptions that make the ads go away.

Anyone who uses a cell phone suffers similar privacy intrusions.








left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
58. Why do I keep getting emails saying I need a bigger bra?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021

I'm a 75 year old flat chested guy.
I think Chrome needs to work on their data in my file.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
62. I don't use Chrome and never have precisely because it's spyware
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:37 PM
Oct 2021

if you want a decent Chromium-based browser I recommend Vivaldi.

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