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Am I the only one who has a huge problem with someone who has ever worked for W running as a Democrat, especially in Texas? Just because Trump was horrendous does not mean W was anything approaching okay.
msongs
(67,360 posts)Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)Christ I'm not sure about, not having followed him in depth.
But I am just very very leery of anyone who saw fit to work for W.
As I said, Trump made Bush look good, but Bush was very very bad. And in my opinion there was no doubt about it at the time.
Ocelot II
(115,586 posts)by 2007 had distanced himself on account of the Iraq war, which he opposed, and was no longer speaking to Karl Rove. He hasn't been an active GOPer since then.
I think we should be willing to accept converts.
Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)And distance himself from W, because a lot of people are going to have the same knee-jerk reaction I did.
Celerity
(43,096 posts)Warren grew up in an FDR Democratic household.
Her first vote the POTUS was AGAINST Nixon in 1972. She did vote for Ford, but liked Carter. She voted Carter in 1980 and Mondale in 1984. In 1988 she voted for Dukakis, and in 1992, Clinton. Obviously voted for Clinton again in 1996 and every other Democrat since then. She registered as a Republican because she had moved to PA and liked Arlen Specter, who also switched to our Party from Republican.
Nixon was re-elected that year, of course, but resigned and was replaced by Gerald Ford. Warren said she had voted for him in 1976, believing that Ford was a decent man. But she was happy with Jimmy Carter, who beat him. I thought he [also] was a decent man, she said, transferring her then-standard for what she wanted in a politician from Ford to Carter. He was a really good man.
As the 80s wore on and her research on bankruptcy progressed, Warren started waking up politically. At the time, though, the two parties had yet to separate entirely along ideological lines, as some deeply conservative and racist Democrats still held office, as did some genuinely liberal Republicans. In 1988, Warren voted for Michael Dukakis but, in 1992, split her ticket, voting for Republican Arlen Specter for Senate and Democrat Bill Clinton for president. Specter is a good example of the one-time flexibility of the party system and the politicians within it: He began and ended his career as a Democrat, but was a Republican for much of the middle of it. By the fall of 1987, she had moved to Pennsylvania and registered there as a Republican. Warren said she couldnt quite remember why she did it but that she was a fan of Specter. Again, I thought he was a decent man, she said. She couldnt recall whom he ran against. (His Democratic opponent was Lynn Yeakel.) That GOP registration, though, has set off speculation over the years that one of the Senates most progressive champions may have at one time been a Ronald Reagan backer.
So we asked her: Is it true? Is it possible the champion of the regulatory cops on Wall Street voted for the man who made deregulation a hallmark of his presidency?
No.
In 1980, she said, she was a registered independent living in Missouri City, Texas, and cast her vote to re-elect Carter.
When Reagan won, she wasnt happy but not crushed the way she was on election night in 2016. I was disappointed and didnt like him, but I wasnt deeply worried for the country, not anything like when Trump was elected, she explained. If she could go back in time, she said, she would tell herself this was a far more pivotal historical moment than you understand.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613
https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2012/08/19/for-professor-warren-a-steep-climb/
Warren also tied for 2nd lowest Trump score in the entire Senate back when McTurtle was running things
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/
LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)Celerity
(43,096 posts)LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)I met her too, but don't remember her.
Celerity
(43,096 posts)of an elected Democrat all day long.
LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)Celerity
(43,096 posts)LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)PCIntern
(25,479 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)Just news.
Its an over the air channel now.
calguy
(5,292 posts)We can use all the help we can get. Big tents yield more votes than narrow ideologies.I'm not a Texas voter, but if Dowd can pull republican votes to our side, I'm all for it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)decent Democrats, certainly no worse than incumbent GOPers.
Dont know anything about Dowd, but there were some relatively decent Republicans in bushs admin in Medicare, Medicaid, immigration. Hagel and a few others come to mind as well.
But, yeah, Id be suspicious.
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,919 posts)I know a couple of people who worked hard to get Dowd into this race. I have been on a panel with Mike Collier and he is a CPA who makes tax accountants look exciting
This is Texas and Dowd fits in well with Beto and Joe Jaworski (the likely AG candidate)
I saw this today
Link to tweet
LeftInTX
(25,125 posts)I mean, let's face it..Look what W did to Ann...
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,919 posts)Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)I will look into Dowd more. But he better sell his good points and distance himself from W, because a lot of people are going to have the same knee jerk reaction I had.