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Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:30 AM

What's Wrong With Kyrsten Sinema?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/opinion/sinema-kyrsten.html



In 2003, Joe Lieberman, at the time one of the worst Democratic senators, traveled to Arizona to campaign for his party’s presidential nomination and was regularly greeted by antiwar demonstrators. “He’s a shame to Democrats,” said the organizer of a protest outside a Tucson hotel, a left-wing social worker named Kyrsten Sinema. “I don’t even know why he’s running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him — what kind of strategy is that?” It was a good question, and one that many people would like to ask Sinema herself these days. People sometimes describe the Arizona senator as a centrist, but that seems the wrong term for someone who’s been working to derail some of the most broadly popular parts of Joe Biden’s agenda, corporate tax increases and reforms to lower prescription drug prices. Instead, she’s just acting as an obstructionist, seeming to bask in the approbation of Republicans who will probably never vote for her.

A “Saturday Night Live” skit this weekend captured her absurdist approach to negotiating the reconciliation bill that contains almost the entirety of Biden’s agenda. “What do I want from this bill?” asked the actress playing Sinema. “I’ll never tell.” It sometimes seems as if what Sinema wants is for people to sit around wondering what Sinema wants. When Sinema ran for Senate, the former left-wing firebrand reportedly told her advisers that she hoped to be the next John McCain, an independent force willing to buck her own party. Voting against a $15 minimum wage this year, she gave a thumbs down — accompanied by an obnoxious little curtsy — that seemed meant to recall the gesture McCain made when he voted against repealing key measures of the Affordable Care Act in 2017. But people admired McCain because they felt he embodied a consistent set of values, a straight-talking Captain America kind of patriotism. Despite his iconoclastic image, he was mostly a deeply conservative Republican; as CNN’s Harry Enten points out, on votes where the parties were split, he sided with his party about 90 percent of the time.

Sinema, by contrast, breaks with her fellow Democrats much more often. There hasn’t been a year since she entered Congress, Enten wrote, when she’s voted with her party more than 75 percent of the time. But what really makes her different from McCain is that nobody seems to know what she stands for. “We need to make health care more affordable, lower prescription drug prices, and fix the problems in the system — not go back to letting insurance companies call all the shots,” she tweeted in 2018. Yet Sinema reportedly objects to the Democrats’ plan to allow the federal government to negotiate drug prices for Medicare recipients and even opposes a scaled-back version of the policy put forward by some House moderates. She voted against the Trump tax cuts in the House but now seems to oppose undoing any of them. According to The New York Times, she’s “privately told colleagues she will not accept any corporate or income tax rate increases.”



Why? An easy explanation would be money; she could just be protecting her campaign donors. But as Matthew Yglesias points out, in recent cycles small-dollar Democratic donors, who tend to be to the left of Democratic voters overall, have showered the party’s Senate candidates with cash. If Sinema tanks the Biden presidency, it’s unlikely to be great for her fund-raising. So I think it’s entirely possible that Sinema’s motives are sincere, because she’s come to believe in bipartisanship for its own sake, divorced from any underlying policy goals. To understand why, it’s worth reading Sinema’s one book-length explication of her political philosophy, her 2009 “Unite and Conquer: How to Build Coalitions That Win — and Last.” In “Unite and Conquer,” Sinema describes entering the Republican-controlled Arizona State House as a strident progressive, accomplishing nothing, being miserable and then recalibrating so that she could collaborate with her Republican colleagues. The book is vaguely New Agey. It places a lot of emphasis on deep breathing and extols what Sinema calls “Enso politics,” after a Zen term for a circle symbolizing enlightenment.

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Reply What's Wrong With Kyrsten Sinema? (Original post)
Celerity Oct 5 OP
Sneederbunk Oct 5 #1
Bettie Oct 5 #24
Coventina Oct 5 #25
StarryNite Oct 5 #31
totodeinhere Oct 5 #37
Coventina Oct 5 #38
totodeinhere Oct 5 #39
LanternWaste Oct 5 #35
drmeow Oct 5 #36
dalton99a Oct 5 #2
bluewater Oct 5 #8
C_U_L8R Oct 5 #3
Ocelot II Oct 5 #4
LiberalFighter Oct 5 #28
lame54 Oct 5 #5
Celerity Oct 5 #18
samnsara Oct 5 #6
walkingman Oct 5 #13
Celerity Oct 5 #22
PatSeg Oct 5 #29
Celerity Oct 5 #40
PatSeg Oct 6 #41
Nictuku Oct 5 #7
NewHendoLib Oct 5 #9
LuckyCharms Oct 5 #10
underpants Oct 5 #19
LuckyCharms Oct 5 #20
underpants Oct 5 #23
Moostache Oct 5 #11
XanaDUer2 Oct 5 #12
qazplm135 Oct 5 #14
sop Oct 5 #15
femmedem Oct 5 #16
bluewater Oct 5 #17
I_UndergroundPanther Oct 5 #21
KY_EnviroGuy Oct 5 #26
AZSkiffyGeek Oct 5 #27
LeftInTX Oct 5 #30
11 Bravo Oct 5 #32
betsuni Oct 5 #33
48656c6c6f20 Oct 5 #34
hatrack Oct 6 #42

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

1. What's wrong with the Dems who voted for her?

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

24. They were mistaken in believing her

she scammed them.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

25. Were we supposed to vote for the Repuke?

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Response to Coventina (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:51 PM

31. Exactly!

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Response to Coventina (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:58 PM

37. But there were other choices in the Democratic primary that Democratic voters could have chosen.

n/t

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:01 PM

38. No, she was the incumbant candidate, elected in a special election after Flake flaked out.

Nobody was running against Sinema, iirc.

There was a primary for Mark Kelly's special election to fill McCain's seat after he died.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:11 PM

39. Thank you for the correction. n/t

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:39 PM

35. You think something's wrong with people *not* pulling the lever for the R candidate?

 

Takes all sorts, I s'pose.


Good luck!!!!

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:54 PM

36. I voted for her

(I believe for both local and national races) before leaving AZ. Her stance worked in AZ where the Republicans had an stranglehold on everything due to circumstances I won't get into here. Her Republican opponent for the house was a NASTY extremist of the worst kind.

If this "partisanship no matter what" is what is driving her, she learning the wrong lesson when she was a radical lefty. Instead of learning "compromise where you have to in order to get half a loaf rather than nothing," she learned "give up on bread in favor of compromise."

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

2. Arizona Dems were scammed good

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

8. That's it in a nutshell.

She's changed.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

3. The simple answer is Everything

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

4. She's a drama queen who wants attention.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

28. That and among other things.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

5. We know it's not constipation

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Response to lame54 (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

18. lol

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

6. shes immature, inexperienced and still in her 'LOOK AT ME!!! LOOK AT ME!!! phase of her life...

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Response to samnsara (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

13. I think you might be correct? It is OK to have differing opinions on issues but

as an elected official (Senator for God's sake) you have a responsibility to communicate your actions to the people that elected you. She is not doing herself any favors. Be open and honest has always been the correct path to success.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

22. She is middle aged (45), has been running for elective office for 20 years, serving for 17, and she

she earned her Bachelors degree before I was even born.

the

'LOOK AT ME!!! LOOK AT ME!!! phase


is wearing thin

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Response to samnsara (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

29. She talks, acts, and even dresses

like a fifteen year old, but one from the 1980s. She reminds me of my daughter's high school friends in the 1980s. She sure doesn't behave like a senator. Too busy being a celebrity.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:40 PM

40. Molly & Curtsy 👎










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Response to Celerity (Reply #40)

Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:05 AM

41. Oh, those are perfect!

Though I think Molly had better taste than "Curtsy".

My god, the outfit in that second one is absolutely horrible. She is just trying to get media attention. There is no way that she thought that looked good.

And THIS one looks more like something out of the late fifties, early sixties and it would have been atrocious even back then.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

7. Greed

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

9. where to even start?

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

10. She is insecure and in over her head. n/t

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

19. Attention seeker n/t

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Response to underpants (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

20. Yes, that too. n/t

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

23. Thank you n/t

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

11. Are the glasses prescription or cosmetic?

Either way, she uses them the same way she uses her perceived power as a "swing vote"...for grabbing attention for herself.

I have no use for her at all. Addition by subtraction comes to mind.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

12. I don't know what's wrong with her

but I'd be spitting nails if I helped elect her.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

14. So basically

Stuff got hard so she gave in.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

15. "Nation doesn't understand how someone as cool as Sinema could fight for corporate interests"

TUCSON, AZ—Stating it “just didn’t add up,” the U.S. populace told reporters Wednesday that they didn’t understand how someone as cool as Kyrsten Sinema could fight for corporate interests. “She’s really someone who has it all—a winning personality, a killer sense of style—so I was really shocked when I found out about all the corporate donations she’s raking in,” said 34-year-old Anna Monto, a constituent of the senior senator from Arizona, who spoke on behalf of all 330 million Americans in expressing her confusion as to how someone who oozes as much charm and charisma as Sinema could turn out to be just another lapdog for big business. “If she wasn’t my senator, she would be my best friend. Anyone who’s ever seen her on TV or social media knows she’s a total bad ass. I mean, did you see those wigs? It just doesn’t make any sense. At least we still have Joe Manchin.” At press time, the nation had reached the conclusion that the pharmaceutical and medical industries must just also be really fucking cool.

https://www.theonion.com/nation-doesn-t-understand-how-someone-as-cool-as-kyrste-1847770051

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Response to sop (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

16. LOL. I needed that laugh. Thanks! n/t

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Response to sop (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

17. lol

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

21. What's wrong with senima?

Narcissism.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

26. Sounds like her liberal chops were ruined having to deal with a right-wing AZ legislature.

At the state level in red states like AZ and KY, Democratic legislators constantly have to get in bed with Rethugs just to keep the state barely running. Enough of that grinding experience will ruin any decent human. Per Wikipedia for Arizona, "The majority party is the Republican Party, which has held power in both houses since 1993."

There is one hell of a difference with governing between state and federal levels, where one must learn to think beyond just local needs. And, there's also the infamous Beltway Effect. Perhaps DC's lobbying machine has captured her thinking.

Don't know the woman, so I'm just speculating.........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #26)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

27. It's easy to be a liberal when you can't get anything passed

She can vote however she wants when it doesn't make any difference. Now her vote has consequences.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:32 PM

30. Yep!

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:21 PM

32. She's a narcissistic greedhead, and an attention-seeking twit.

She doesn't give a flying fuck about reelection, as she banks a ton of cash from corporate lobbyists.
When she leaves the Senate, she will do so a wealthy woman.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:32 PM

33. "So I think it's entirely possible that Sinema's motives are sincere, because she's come to

believe in bipartisanship for its own sake, divorced from any underlying policy goals." People usually go straight for the "easy explanation," money, as if it's the only possible motivation.

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:34 PM

34. Why does she always remind of someone

That needs to speak to the manager?

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Response to Celerity (Original post)

Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:09 AM

42. And here she is, standing up to applaud Shitstain at a SOTU address . . .

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