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sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:09 PM Oct 2021

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I just watched the first 3 episodes of the HBO

documentary, "The Way Down: God, Greed, and the Cult of Gwen Shamblin".

I had not heard of her before nor of her so-called church, Remnant, in Franklin, TN. Anybody who wants to understand where this crazy American love of authoritarianism has come from, should watch this. It's terrifying how much these 'independent' churches control every aspect of people's lives.


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Not sure if this is the right forum, but I just watched the first 3 episodes of the HBO (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 OP
Freak grifter CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #1
Good grief Srkdqltr Oct 2021 #3
Jesus H Christ! BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #5
Bridezilla CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #8
Does Sherman Williams BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #9
they must have run out... stillcool Oct 2021 #17
Hmmm . . . you've got to admit there must be some higher power holding that hair up. Vinca Oct 2021 #10
Good one. MuseRider Oct 2021 #15
I think "Higher Power" is the name of her beauty product line. nt Bongo Prophet Oct 2021 #21
Holy shit! I would not have thought it possible... 3catwoman3 Oct 2021 #13
can I interrupt the ridicule of her hair for a moment? GopherGal Oct 2021 #16
Somethin is "kickin in" in this picture, but I have no idea what. I just don't want any. dameatball Oct 2021 #19
Thanks for the heads-up FakeNoose Oct 2021 #2
Me too. Also World channel. empedocles Oct 2021 #7
Thanks for the heads up! IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 2021 #4
Authoritarianism is innate in some people, both probably genetically Hortensis Oct 2021 #6
If Jesus or God doesn't answer your prayers, it's because they are too busy furnishing chowder66 Oct 2021 #11
All Prayers Are Answered ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #23
Kick and recommend. Thank you for this. I will watch. bronxiteforever Oct 2021 #12
religion is proof you can make people believe anything Skittles Oct 2021 #14
I just started it. MuseRider Oct 2021 #18
That hair looks like it is trying to escape. Ka-Dinh Oy Oct 2021 #20
She and her husband both were killed in an airplane crash packman Oct 2021 #22
Her daughter has taken her place at Remnant. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #25
Well now that you've SPOILED the fun ... FakeNoose Oct 2021 #26
So, in a way, their "rapture" brought them... ret5hd Oct 2021 #27
.......Does Anybody Know..... titanicdave Oct 2021 #24

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
13. Holy shit! I would not have thought it possible...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:00 PM
Oct 2021

…for someone to have hair that looks worse than Trump’s.

I was wrong. That is FUGLY!!!

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
16. can I interrupt the ridicule of her hair for a moment?
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:34 PM
Oct 2021

Gotta save a little of the ridicule for his bowtie. (I mean, we all made our fashion mistakes in the 80s, I know, but methinks he's not counting on an angel lifting him into heaven, he's planning to use that bowtie to set sail...)

Now, please return to your regularly scheduled hair ridicule...

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. Me too. Also World channel.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:38 PM
Oct 2021

WORLD Channel | WETA

https://watch.weta.org/show/world-channel

WORLD Channel. To inform and inspire with real stories from around the world. Experience the personal stories behind the headlines. Devoted to telling stories that humanize complex issues, WORLD shares the best of public media in news, documentaries, and informational programming that helps us understand conflicts, movements and cultures.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Authoritarianism is innate in some people, both probably genetically
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:35 PM
Oct 2021

linked and heavily inculcated by upbringing. They're either brought up and remain in authoritarian cults like this one or search out/fall into and subject themselves to them, sometimes a number of them over time.

Just a glance at this freak, wondering who on earth would see her as a leader, should be a clue that followers must be exceptionally odd and vulnerable to begin with.


THE AUTHORITARIANS (very highly regarded downloadable book, free)
https://theauthoritarians.org/

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
11. If Jesus or God doesn't answer your prayers, it's because they are too busy furnishing
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

these grifters homes.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
18. I just started it.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:44 PM
Oct 2021

All these kinds of documentaries interest me. Thank goodness my father and mother protected me from this. My Grandma made me go to revivals and a terrifying church that my cousins went to. There is nothing in any of these that I have not heard or surprise me. It still fascinates me. I do not remember the last time I set foot in a church. It will stay that way, these people scare the crap out of me.

I can't go to anything like a sporting event without getting chills and a pinch of fear when those hands go up and they chant "go team" kinds of things.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. She and her husband both were killed in an airplane crash
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:01 PM
Oct 2021




As with many documentaries, the central story is one that is still unfolding, but The Way Down filmmakers—director Marina Zenovich and producer Nile Cappello—had to deal with a major curveball before their series was released. On May 29, a plane crashed into Percy Priest Lake in Tennessee, killing its seven passengers, including Remnant Fellowship founder Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, Joe Lara.[/b


https://www.avclub.com/the-choppy-cult-docuseries-the-way-down-can-t-keep-up-w-1847778544

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
26. Well now that you've SPOILED the fun ...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 09:12 PM
Oct 2021

.... here's a quote from your linked source (AV Club)

It’s a pretty common pitfall for TV series: an abundance of ideas or stories creates rubbernecking, and ultimately, a sense of dissatisfaction. HBO also seems spurred on by the growing interest in documentaries about cults (gee, wonder why), but in its rush to supply the demand, it’s produced more of a curiosity than a fulsome exploration.

The remaining two episodes will cover the aftermath of the plane crash, and the rise of Shamblin Lara’s successors. They might tie together the threads that unspooled in every direction in the first half of the series, but they seem just as likely to diffuse its focus further.

The Way Down: God, Greed, And The Cult Of Gwen Shamblin doesn’t do much more with its litany of subjects than recite them.


ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
27. So, in a way, their "rapture" brought them...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 12:21 AM
Oct 2021

crashing to the ground rather than rising to the sky.

Does anyone else think that may be a hint as to their current habitat?

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