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Rep Adam Schiff: "They. Tried. To. Kill. You. Mister. Vice. President." (Original Post) kpete Oct 2021 OP
Fort Sumter was that one little incident... kentuck Oct 2021 #1
The Japanese were just taking an aerial tour of Hawaii on December 7th. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2021 #4
9/11 was just a bunch of guys from Saudi Arabia learning to fly jumbo jets! bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #5
Right. Just another day..... Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #13
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2021 #19
I love Adam Schiff. Nt raccoon Oct 2021 #2
This demostrates just how messed up Republican-think really is Champp Oct 2021 #3
Well said and very quotable. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #9
Pence is Orwellian on this bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #6
We are literally at War with these people. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2021 #7
I hope not but believe you are correct KS Toronado Oct 2021 #14
We need to anticipate that happening and be prepared to defend and fight back, in earnest. hadEnuf Oct 2021 #22
I agree 100% KS Toronado Oct 2021 #30
Fat Man will never give a direct order. RVN VET71 Oct 2021 #28
You're correct, fat man will give his marching orders KS Toronado Oct 2021 #32
and they will celebrate it. A blood lust in these groups, that's for sure. 1/6 was a "rally" call. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #15
Trump supporters, including Pence, demean themselves dflprincess Oct 2021 #8
Oh, the feelings of 74 million bullshit believers though? czarjak Oct 2021 #10
Want to bet 10% or more of that 74 million... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2021 #17
Not so confident OrangeJoe Oct 2021 #40
I only bet on sure things, but fingers crossed. czarjak Oct 2021 #43
If the timing had been a bit different, PatSeg Oct 2021 #11
I wonder if he really gets it. Those eyes are pretty dim. Just another day... Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #16
I don't know PatSeg Oct 2021 #21
They don't care about anything beneficial but rather want to destroy "liberalism" and install their Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #31
Yes, they truly are a scary bunch PatSeg Oct 2021 #34
Agreed. If it had any elements of anything except a violent overthrow/ take-over or radical racism Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #41
Yes, I think we've been in various stages of civil war PatSeg Oct 2021 #42
True. I see it in public every day; there is a lot of anger out there. Wonder how many incited by Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #44
Yes and it didn't happen overnight PatSeg Oct 2021 #45
I remember the 60's too and at the end and early 70's, race relations were improving. There was no Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #48
Some believe that today's right-wing extremists PatSeg Oct 2021 #50
You are spot on. "violent primarily for the sake of being violent" They just want to burn it down Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #51
Reminds me of children in the schoolyard, PatSeg Oct 2021 #52
I swear the US is like a school playground in terms of intellect and behaviors now. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #53
Sadly, that appears to be the truth PatSeg Oct 2021 #54
pelsi and a whole bunch of others if that cop hadnt distratced and angered the crowd. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #18
Yes, we are talking mere minutes PatSeg Oct 2021 #23
my rally cry, never forget jan 6. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #24
Absolutely PatSeg Oct 2021 #33
The Republicans are in warrior mode. Let's face it. They want to sink the country Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #12
Proof the M$M isn't focusing enough on J6 terrorist uponit7771 Oct 2021 #20
Mr Vice President, duck!!! marble falls Oct 2021 #25
Well, they deserve demeaning. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #26
Looks like it was constructed just well enough to hold Pence. GoodRaisin Oct 2021 #29
I noticed its construction seemed more symbolic than otherwise, but the hangman's noose would serve Hekate Oct 2021 #37
Trump is just a fuckin mean bastard. But Pence is batshit crazy. ananda Oct 2021 #27
Yeah, sure, they threatened to hang him, but... Silent3 Oct 2021 #35
Pence is a deluded little man who still thinks he can ride this RWNJ monster to glory Hekate Oct 2021 #36
Pence is done. hadEnuf Oct 2021 #38
exactly Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #39
Rt TY Cha Oct 2021 #46
I guess the noose and scaffold were just a funny joke! Patton French Oct 2021 #47
I wonder what Mother was saying while it was happening? LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #49
4. The Japanese were just taking an aerial tour of Hawaii on December 7th.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:29 AM
Oct 2021

They were typical tourists who wanted to take a look at Pearl Harbor. They didn't even land.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
3. This demostrates just how messed up Republican-think really is
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:10 AM
Oct 2021

The poor, sick bastards are just putty in the hands of tyrants,
feeble and meek to the Fascist Boots of their own degenerate QOP,
built on a mountain of lies and deception.

The Republicans' darkside anti-American Russian cronies are
laughing their babushkas off at Republican obedience and stupidity.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
6. Pence is Orwellian on this
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:43 AM
Oct 2021

Republicans will destroy anything to promote their power and self-interest. It's all about spin for them now. Question your eyes, and especially your ears when they speak.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
14. I hope not but believe you are correct
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:40 AM
Oct 2021

With so many reQublicOns relying on Qanonsense's BS as being the truth, whenever Qrump starts
to feel cornered, he'll give them orders to kill Democrats to "SAVE" our country. Hope I'm wrong.

hadEnuf

(2,187 posts)
22. We need to anticipate that happening and be prepared to defend and fight back, in earnest.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:13 AM
Oct 2021

I put nothing past these bastards. They have openly shown that they will use any and all means to achieve their cult leader's goals.

It's time to stop trying to figure out these animals. It's pretty clear what they want and they need to be stopped using whatever means are necessary. Hopefully it can be done peacefully but we must be prepared for their escalation which is almost sure to come.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
28. Fat Man will never give a direct order.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:33 AM
Oct 2021

Fat Man will speak indirectly to his devotees through one of his broadcast apparatchiks, maybe Carlson, saying “The people are with
their backs to the wall and, I really hate to have to tell you, but there’s enough frustration with all the socialism and loss of freedom that somebody’s liable to start shooting. I’m not saying I’d want to see it, but I’m telling you, the violence is coming.”

Fat Man may not even have to say anything. The currents are already flowing in that direction. But Fat Man will definitely want to position himself so he can either deny he sought violence or take credit it for it, however it suits him.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
32. You're correct, fat man will give his marching orders
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:14 AM
Oct 2021

in such a way as to deny what he said, "I was only joking". Plus with the Grand Juries & the Jan 6th
Committee closing in on him, he's going to feel like a cornered rat sooner than later. That's when he'll
strike.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
15. and they will celebrate it. A blood lust in these groups, that's for sure. 1/6 was a "rally" call.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:44 AM
Oct 2021

A "meet and greet" to feel the comradery and do a little net-working. We were lucky and I don't think they thought it would be so easy to storm the capitol. Proudest day of their lives said many.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
17. Want to bet 10% or more of that 74 million...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:46 AM
Oct 2021

Will be rethinking their votes for Trump and stay home in 2024 if he even thinks about running again. With all the crap yet to come down, perhaps people have had enough. They may not like living in a country where they are RULED with NO rights whatsoever.

OrangeJoe

(334 posts)
40. Not so confident
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 02:41 PM
Oct 2021

Remember after 4 years of Trump in office his support among white women actually increased in the 2020 election.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
11. If the timing had been a bit different,
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:15 AM
Oct 2021

Pence easily could be dead right now. Surely, that must enter his mind frequently. There are no do-overs once you are dead.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
21. I don't know
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:12 AM
Oct 2021

Maybe once you've sold your sold, there are no take backs.

It is like some of these people are a very different species. It is truly unsettling.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
31. They don't care about anything beneficial but rather want to destroy "liberalism" and install their
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:08 AM
Oct 2021

own brand or Rule. Pence does it with the demeanor of an undertaker/ mortician but the evil and intent to destroy all but christo fascism rules his life. Never forget he and Nazi salute Laura Ingraham are buds, and he filled in on her radio show. These people are fucking dangerous. Pence was Manafort's pick. They knew who would be best suited to work for the new US oligarchs.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
34. Yes, they truly are a scary bunch
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:34 AM
Oct 2021

and they are more focused on "winning" rather than "doing". Power at any cost.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
41. Agreed. If it had any elements of anything except a violent overthrow/ take-over or radical racism
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 03:04 PM
Oct 2021

and attacking the rule of law? As a nation, we can't allow this if it becomes violent. They may need to be dealt with harshly if it continues. It feels like a civil war already.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
42. Yes, I think we've been in various stages of civil war
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 03:23 PM
Oct 2021

for the last four years. It is just hard to see it sometimes when you are right in the middle of it.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
44. True. I see it in public every day; there is a lot of anger out there. Wonder how many incited by
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:28 PM
Oct 2021

media AM hate radio, "social apps", Faux News? Probably most of it. Few have actual conversation anymore.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
45. Yes and it didn't happen overnight
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

It took years to cultivate and feed all that anger. AM talk radio and Fox News laid the groundwork and social media fueled the fire. I remember the turbulent sixties, but it was nothing like this. There was anger and rebellion, but never this level of blind hatred. Throw in right-wing media and the Internet and you have a civil war.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
48. I remember the 60's too and at the end and early 70's, race relations were improving. There was no
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:05 PM
Oct 2021

radio hate, no internet hate and no Fox hate and propoganda. There were 3 networks and PBS (the fuzzy channel with the auction). I'd go back to my rabbit ears and my black rotary phone in a heartbeat.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
50. Some believe that today's right-wing extremists
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 08:21 AM
Oct 2021

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are payback for the left-wing protestors of the sixties, but today's right-wingers are violent primarily for the sake of being violent. Most of the protestors in the sixties were peaceful and were trying to make the world a better place. There were a few exceptions, but they didn't represent the movement as a whole.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
51. You are spot on. "violent primarily for the sake of being violent" They just want to burn it down
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 10:01 AM
Oct 2021

and hurt/kill Dems and libs anyway they can. Alarming actually.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
52. Reminds me of children in the schoolyard,
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:18 PM
Oct 2021

looking for an excuse to get into a fight, any reason will do. Some of them grow up and start fights in bars, because they like the adrenal rush - "What are you looking at?" Obviously, some people never outgrow it.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
23. Yes, we are talking mere minutes
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:15 AM
Oct 2021

Yet so many republicans are prepared to just put it behind them, as if it was of little significance, but we've seen the videos and they were very frightened at the time.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
33. Absolutely
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:32 AM
Oct 2021

That is what republicans crammed down our throats about 9/11 for twenty years, but January 6 was a far greater threat to our democracy than the attacks on 9/11.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
12. The Republicans are in warrior mode. Let's face it. They want to sink the country
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 09:26 AM
Oct 2021

in order to destroy the Democrat's agenda. And they will if we don't find a way around Sinema and Manchin.

God, I would love to see those two become irrelevant.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
26. Well, they deserve demeaning.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:25 AM
Oct 2021

That was the most piss-poor design and build I've ever seen for a scaffold! It would have collapsed with the first execution. The media should be ashamed for even calling it a scaffold.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
29. Looks like it was constructed just well enough to hold Pence.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:45 AM
Oct 2021

The 2x4 on the top is turned in the correct position. The 4x4 columns look a little shakey. It might have held.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
37. I noticed its construction seemed more symbolic than otherwise, but the hangman's noose would serve
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:41 AM
Oct 2021

Ropes can be slung over any tree limb or balcony. Pence is delusional.

Silent3

(15,201 posts)
35. Yeah, sure, they threatened to hang him, but...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:36 AM
Oct 2021

...is life even worth living if you can't be working the system from a position of power, trying to turn the country into a theocracy?

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
36. Pence is a deluded little man who still thinks he can ride this RWNJ monster to glory
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:39 AM
Oct 2021

The GOP — McConnell, Lindsay Graham, and their ilk — have lost control of the monster.

hadEnuf

(2,187 posts)
38. Pence is done.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 12:32 PM
Oct 2021

His "base" of rebel animals will never trust him again for not subverting democracy and sane people see him as a spineless collaborator who is trying to kiss the asses of people who wanted to murder him.

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