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Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
5. While asking them for what specifics they would be happy to vote for is ignored...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:24 PM
Oct 2021
over and over and over by them, I am starting to think they both are opportunistic morons.

jimfields33

(15,705 posts)
9. Manchin finally said he will accept one new program that can stay.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:54 PM
Oct 2021

Two must go. Child credit, childcare and I think sick leave. Child credit seems most likely to stay.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
4. Manchin does not care about anybody other than himself.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:24 PM
Oct 2021

He has no guiding light except money.

Sinema is mentally ill and does not really know what she wants other than attention.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
10. WV poll shows they will vote for him overwhelmingly if he supports the $3.5T bill.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 12:14 AM
Oct 2021

That was then. This is now:


Gary Zuckett, executive director of the West Virginia Citizen Action Group, said Manchin should rest assured that West Virginia voters will have his back if he votes for the $3.5 trillion bill, as long as he also closes the significant loopholes within the American tax system that would help pay for it.

A poll of 600 registered West Virginia voters found 48% support Biden’s reconciliation plan. After polled voters were given the option of raising taxes on the richest Americans and corporations, while closing the loopholes that have caused significant wealth disparities, support for the plan rose as high as 70%.

The poll was released Tuesday and was commissioned by Americans for Tax Fairness, a national nonprofit group composed of hundreds of American unions, think tanks, advocacy groups and small businesses. Phone calls to voters were made between Aug. 9 and Aug. 15, with respondents being 37% Democrat, 36% Republican and 27% Independent or other affiliation, according to the poll. Thirty percent of respondents described themselves as “very conservative,” while 6% said they were “very liberal.”

The most popular provision among respondents — 70% — was closing the loophole that allows the wealthy to avoid paying taxes on investment gains. A one-time tax on billionaires on their uninvested profits received 65% support, and a wealth tax on Americans who earn more than $50 million in one year received 64% support, according to poll results.


Link: https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/politics/poll-shows-wv-voters-support-using-tax-hikes-on-rich-corporations-to-help-pay-for/article_0df66787-202a-5b5e-8eb9-f20e0cd622da.html

Silent3

(15,152 posts)
12. What I'd love to know is, if Bernie is now the first person to broach this subject...
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 12:59 AM
Oct 2021

...and demand that Manchin and Sinema explain exactly what it is they are supposedly holding out for, then what the fuck have Biden and the rest of the Senate been saying to these two in all of the previous meetings and visits to the White House?

I'd have been in their faces about this from Day One demanding specifics, pointing out the democracy itself hangs in the balance, and barely be making an effort to be civil about it.

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