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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:40 PM Oct 2021

Is Mike Pence dumber than we thought?

Last month, Pence set up a 2024 presidential campaign office in Washington D.C. and actually staffed it with ...? I guess there's no shortage of morons willing to join the Pence for Prez staff. Are they being paid? Where's the money coming from? Who would be stupid enough to donate.

Mike, let me ask you this. Do you have some secret stash of 80 or 90 million voters straining at their leashes to get to the polls and make you president? Is your sky god going to wave his wand? Beats me.

Here's some advice that you probably won't follow, Mike: Hang it up. You're never going to be president. There aren't enough people to vote for you. The crazies tried to hang you, (remember that?), so they aren't going to vote for you. The sane think you're a moron, so they're not going to vote for you. I have a better chance of becoming president than you do.

Why don't you just go back to Indiana and do, ... whatever it is you do. After all, you've already made it into the history books by kissing the ring of the man who sent a mob to murder you.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/17/politics/pence-2024-run/index.html

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Is Mike Pence dumber than we thought? (Original Post) Cyrano Oct 2021 OP
Simply Yes! BlueJac Oct 2021 #1
I agree OLDMDDEM Oct 2021 #30
Is This A Trick Question? SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #2
I don't believe that's possible. rsdsharp Oct 2021 #3
That's my thought. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #12
I used to think it was an act Effete Snob Oct 2021 #4
Yes. H2O Man Oct 2021 #5
Not possible to be dumber than I think he is relayerbob Oct 2021 #6
No, we've known he's always been dumb as a rock budkin Oct 2021 #7
Yep, he can always go back to radio, if any of the winger... brush Oct 2021 #20
Once a Limbaugh wannabe, always a Limbaugh wannabe Shermann Oct 2021 #40
That would be hard to imagine, really. MineralMan Oct 2021 #8
I wonder if Indiana would go blue if he ran? LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #9
At least purple, he was not going to be reelected. AwakeAtLast Oct 2021 #17
I'm in Indiana too. Too many need to be voted out here. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #26
That's why I moved back to Illinois. n/t AwakeAtLast Oct 2021 #39
He does ask Mother for permission all the time. And sleeps with her. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #10
No. We already thought that Mike Pence was very, very dumb. Shrike47 Oct 2021 #11
In his own words from a 2017 cabinet meeting... Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #13
And To Think He Wrote It All Himself! The Roux Comes First Oct 2021 #14
He sounded pained when he read them. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #18
He really should go to a monastery in Tibet and try to Cyrano Oct 2021 #16
no. I've always thought him to as fucking stupid as a bag of rocks. NewHendoLib Oct 2021 #15
Sorry, but he knows this. The GOP is one big grifting machine. themaguffin Oct 2021 #19
He's exactly as dumb as we thought C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #21
That would be hard to say LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #22
I don't think that's possible. we can do it Oct 2021 #23
A Ken doll handled by a toddler Leith Oct 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #25
I don't think he's particularly stupid. I don't think most of the GOP are stupid, either. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #27
Interesting analysis Cyrano Oct 2021 #28
If they were all idiots, they'd be far less effective. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #34
He might be deluded into believing his Purpose in Life... Silent3 Oct 2021 #29
Where's that fly? Come back big black fly! panader0 Oct 2021 #31
My first thought as well. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2021 #33
He's as dumb as he's always been. comradebillyboy Oct 2021 #32
"Dumber than we thought" is kind of a high bar to clear. We didn't exactly think he was a genius. JHB Oct 2021 #35
He is not dumb, walking a tight rope RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2021 #36
Maybe he's got some dirt on Trump Rstrstx Oct 2021 #37
When you think you're one of God's special snowflakes TlalocW Oct 2021 #38
Dumber? Propbably not. Poorer? That is another question. An imagined dialog: DFW Oct 2021 #41
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
4. I used to think it was an act
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:45 PM
Oct 2021

Now I'm inclined to believe he seems to genuinely have something wrong with his brain.

Previously, I could write it all off as him just acting stupid out of political expedience. Any inconvenient fact with which he was confronted was something he hadn't heard of, or didn't know.

But now, there is a real opportunity for some Republican to stake out their own turf as having broken with Trump, if they have any kind of presidential aspirations, since anyone running for the R nomination in 2024 is not going to be able to distinguish themselves within a pack of Trump-fluffers.

He would at least have an excuse in the fact that it is kind of hard to keep kissing the ass of someone who literally sent people to kill you.

There's something deeply wrong with this guy.

brush

(53,741 posts)
20. Yep, he can always go back to radio, if any of the winger...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021

outfits would have him. He more than reached his level of incompetence as VP. He's gotta face it, it's all downhill from here on in.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
40. Once a Limbaugh wannabe, always a Limbaugh wannabe
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:18 PM
Oct 2021

It's like that 100 year old Nazi. Never forgive, never forget.

Kid Berwyn

(14,795 posts)
13. In his own words from a 2017 cabinet meeting...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:04 PM
Oct 2021

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate it Mr. President. As I told you last night, shortly after the Senate vote I know I speak on behalf of the entire Cabinet and of millions of Americans when I say, congratulations and thank you.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Thank you for seeing, through the course of this year, an agenda that truly is restoring this country. You described it very well, Mr. President. From the outset of this administration, we've been rebuilding our military, putting the safety and security of the American people first.

You've restored American credibility on the world stage. We're standing with our allies. We're standing up to our enemies.

But you promised economic renewal at home. You said we could make this economy great again, and you promised to roll back regulations, and you've signed more bills rolling back federal red tape than any President in American history. You've unleashed American energy. You've spurred an optimism in this country that's setting records.

But you promised the American people in that campaign a year ago that you would deliver historic tax cuts, and it would be a “middle-class miracle.” And in just a short period of time, that promise will be fulfilled.

And I just — I’m deeply humbled, as your Vice President, to be able to be here. Because of your leadership, Mr. President, and because of the strong support of the leadership in the Congress of the United States, you're delivering on that middle-class miracle.

You've actually got the Congress to do, as you said, what they couldn’t do with ANWR for 40 years. You got the Congress to do, with tax cuts for working families and American businesses, what they haven’t been able to do for 31 years. And you got Congress to do what they couldn’t do for seven years, in repealing the individual mandate in Obamacare.

I know you would have me also acknowledge the people around this table, Mr. President. I want to thank the leaders in Congress once again for their partnership in this. I want to thank your outstanding team, your Secretary of the Treasury, Steven Mnuchin, for Gary Cohn, for Ivanka Trump, for your great legislative team — all the members of this Cabinet who partnered to drive your vision forward over the past six months after you laid out that vision for tax reform.

But mostly, Mr. President, I’ll end where I began and just tell you, I want to thank you, Mr. President. I want to thank you for speaking on behalf of and fighting every day for the forgotten men and women of America. Because of your determination, because of your leadership, the forgotten men and women of America are forgotten no more. And we are making America great again.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Mike. That's very nice. I appreciate that.

Source: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomnamako/transcript-trump-cabinet-meeting

Kid Berwyn

(14,795 posts)
18. He sounded pained when he read them.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:19 PM
Oct 2021

But he always talks that way.

And I just — I’m deeply humbled (OUCH), as your Vice President (AIEEE), to be able to be here. Because of your leadership (SNORT), Mr. President, and because of the strong support of the leadership in the Congress of the United States (HAHAHAHA), you're delivering on that middle-class miracle. (BRONX CHEER)

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
16. He really should go to a monastery in Tibet and try to
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:17 PM
Oct 2021

reconnect with planet Earth.

He has a BA in history, yet it seems he learned nothing. And his advanced degrees are meaningless since this man was obviously just filling seats in classrooms. (Seats that were badly needed by those willing to learn.)

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,919 posts)
22. That would be hard to say
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

Pence is very very stupid. So far the current level of stupidity is in line with my rather low expectations for this idiot

Leith

(7,808 posts)
24. A Ken doll handled by a toddler
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:40 PM
Oct 2021

is slightly smarter than Pence. Slightly more animated and lifelike, too.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
27. I don't think he's particularly stupid. I don't think most of the GOP are stupid, either.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:55 PM
Oct 2021

I think Pence and the rest of the Trump wing of the party are craven opportunists with no scruples and an insatiable lust for power and control. Trump himself is clearly an imbecile, but all the GOPers who hitched their wagon to him, not so much. When he announced his bid for the nomination, they mocked him. When he won, they bowed down and kissed his feet, nearly to a man/woman, out of political expediency.

Pence cast aside all dignity and morality to kiss Trump's ass because he believed it was the best course for himself. That said, Pence is deluding himself if he thinks the Trump faithful will pick him over Trump in 2024.

If they were stupid, they'd be much less effective and much less of a threat. Malice is infinitely more dangerous than idiocy.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
28. Interesting analysis
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:01 PM
Oct 2021

I believe they are filled with both malice and idiocy.

Or, as every Jedi knows, "The insanity is strong in these beings."

Jedi Guy

(3,175 posts)
34. If they were all idiots, they'd be far less effective.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:25 PM
Oct 2021

Some are certainly both malicious and stupid, but idiots rarely come up with plans that come so close to success. Writing them all off as imbeciles is a mistake, in my opinion.

Silent3

(15,147 posts)
29. He might be deluded into believing his Purpose in Life...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:08 PM
Oct 2021

...is to turn this country into a Christian theocracy, and just won't let go of any avenue he thinks he can try to use to accomplish that.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
35. "Dumber than we thought" is kind of a high bar to clear. We didn't exactly think he was a genius.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:32 PM
Oct 2021

I mean, it was a little surprising when Jeb proved that there's no such thing as a "smart Bush", but Pence? There wasn't much room for higher expectation.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,664 posts)
36. He is not dumb, walking a tight rope
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

He knows he can't win these people over, but he is trying cause he has nothing else to do.

Still gonna live off government pensions and RW consulting fees the rest of his life.

The man has ambition but no spine, good luck good bye.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
37. Maybe he's got some dirt on Trump
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:44 PM
Oct 2021

Then again, there’s been a ton of dirt dug up about Trump and it doesn’t seem to ever matter. Or maybe he’s seen Trump’s real health records, or knows him well enough to know that he won’t run. Or maybe he’s Putin’s hand-picked choice this time. Who knows?

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
38. When you think you're one of God's special snowflakes
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:51 PM
Oct 2021

You'll believe anything. It's the exact attitude of the people who wanted to kill him on January 6. They've been radicalized to believe all their opinions are sanctified by God. Since they're the ones on God's side, God has their back.

TlalocW

DFW

(54,280 posts)
41. Dumber? Propbably not. Poorer? That is another question. An imagined dialog:
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:49 PM
Oct 2021

(ring ring)
Pence: Hello?

Trump: Hey Mike, it's me.

Pence: Hi Don. What's up?

Trump: I want you to set up a presidential campaign office in Washington.

Pence: Why? I haven't decided to run yet.

Trump: Of course not. But I have. I'm having some PR issues right now, so I need you to front for me.

Pence: But if I'm not running, who's gonna take that seriously?

Trump: No one. So what? No one ever took you seriously. But I need the distraction. When the heat is off me, I'll step in and take over.

Pence: But who will fund it? I haven't got a dime.

Trump: Neither do I--you didn't hear that from me, by the way--but it doesn't matter. Pootie will cover the bill. All costs taken care of, and he'll back-channel the funding so no one knows the money came from Russia. They'll suspect, but they'll never prove it. They never did after 2016, did they?

Pence: No, you're right about that. But I have to look into getting some money of my own. I gotta make a living for myself you know.

Trump: Vlad thought of that. He's got a dummy company in Terre Haute that will hire you for consulting.

Pence: But what can I bill them? I need some real income to live on. Besides, who'd ever believe anyone would pay to consult with me?

Trump: Nobody, of course, but that's irrelevant. Fox will report it, so 75 million people will swallow it eventually. Your campaign can bill Pootie's company for $5,000,000 every quarter, and you can set up a dummy consulting company that bills them another $450,000 every quarter for yourself. Is that enough?

Pence: Is that enough? For that kind of money, I'd send Mother on a one way trip to Calcutta and tell her to call herself Mother Teresa II. Hell yeah, that's enough! But who'd make me dinner and tuck me in at night?

Trump: Vlad has that covered, too. Their names are Irina, Tatiana, and Masha. But you only get two of them a day. One of them always gets the day off.

Pence: Wow, it sounds like you thought of everything. OK, I'll do it. You have yourself a dummy.

Trump: I always did, Mike.

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