So, what happens when there is no deal on BBB by Oct 31?

[berni_mccoy]

I’m pretty sure Manchin and Sinema are not going to support any compromise. Manchin might yield for a modest package. Sinema, I seriously doubt.

So then what? Another deadline? I doubt that too.

Most likely course is the bipartisan bill passes once progressives get confirmation that the deal ain’t happening. Then the debt ceiling is raised through reconciliation.

Wondering what others here think…

[berni_mccoy]

9. Prepare for the worst.

[berni_mccoy]

12. Totally fair. I was just making a point

That I always do to hope (and work) for the best, but always prepare for the worst. The sooner we know Manchin and Sinema aren’t going to play ball, the better off we’ll be. The longer this is drawn out, the bigger and more memorable the failure will be.

[Elessar Zappa]

2. I'm still optimistic

that some version of the social infrastructure bill will pass. It definitely won’t be for 3.5 trillion but I do believe something will come to Biden’s desk.

[PortTack]

3. HRC said on the view this morning that a bill would be passed..she knows...doesn't give lip service

She said they are not that far apart.

Biden has said the same

[berni_mccoy]

8. Just listening to MSNBC and one of the House committee chairs

Just said Dems are divided on how to pare the bill down to 2 Trillion which is the suggested new top line number. He said there is no commitment from the two Senators in the Senate.

[MichMan]

5. Same thing that happened on the previous deadlines?

[Klaralven]

6. The next hard deadline is December 3

President Joe Biden on Thursday night signed Congress' stopgap funding bill to avert a shutdown and extend government funding through December 3, according to the White House.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/30/politics/government-shutdown-deadline-congress-votes/index.html

[berni_mccoy]

7. The next deadline is Oct 31 set by Pelosi

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-02/pelosi-sets-revised-oct-31-target-to-pass-infrastructure-bill

[lagomorph777]

11. Put treats in there for WV and AZ, if they go along by Halloween.

Otherwise, time for tricks. TP their houses.