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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:09 AM Oct 2021

Move along. Nothing to see here...👀



They need to get this pesky being held to account schtick over and done with asap. Trump is signalling that they should stand by again and they need to get to insurrecting.

''Like the vanquished Confederates, the KKK and the Nazis, today’s right-wing extremists make victims out of the guilty to justify their intensifying fascism'' Noah Berlatsky


https://imgur.com/t/politics/PSePg8T

Stupid and delusional, with limited consequences to their actions- a deadly combination.
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bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
1. There's not a perfect choice
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:54 AM
Oct 2021

We don't want justice as revenge. it makes martyrs and resentment. We want a government as good as its people. These miscreants have the opportunity to blend back into society. We don't want acquittals, so we don't want trials.

"He got acquitted, I got 2 years!!!" will not be a popular nor equitable balance. So we make the deals lenient, and hopefully all accept the deal. Plus there are several hundred cases to bring, we want some type of equality across the criminal acts and levels of charges. So this is what we got. If we get it going these charges will increase as they move up the chain of criminality, and these lesser sentences are almost evidence of higher culpability.

I'm not defending it, I'm not saying we couldn't do better, but there are reasons why they do what they do. And we don't know the half of it. Thankfully many have been detained awaiting trial. So there is that time too.

But I hear ya.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
7. I don't want a 'perfect' choice.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:05 AM
Oct 2021

I want justice. Justice for those who died protecting our government. Justice for the entire country as they had to watch a blatant assault on that very institution. I could care less about 'perfect'. I care about justice. And, I am not seeing it. I see tepid attempts at placation. But, you are right, we do not know the entire legal situation.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
11. Isn't this the very system we are extolling?
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:46 AM
Oct 2021

Have we not been told again and again about following the rule of law in this matter or we become chaos? Is this not how our judicial system works? If juries find them not guilty, I would say that makes more of a statement as to how far down the rabbit hole we have fallen and that maybe... maybe it is time to start getting serious (and honest) about what is going on in this country and what it will take to 'fix' it. Don't you agree? Or should we keep pretending that all of this was just an 'aberration'? (Not trying to be snarky, really asking.)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. I want revenge. That is the only acceptable form of justice in this case.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:23 AM
Oct 2021

These fuckers tried to steal my country. They should never be allowed to stroll around freely in it, ever again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. No doubt many are looking forward to the next time. I read the FBI
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:55 AM
Oct 2021

has ramped up their domestic terrorist caseload, and at least these people -- who differentiated themselves from millions on social media by adding action to their bloviation -- will be among those surveilled.

Not that there's nothing to worry about, there's a great deal, but I've been impressed so far by how many of the potentially treasonous and violent events that were widely threatened, such as on election day, did not take place after all.

Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
3. they just want to cut down on legal fees
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:22 AM
Oct 2021

but of course there is no remorse....that is a given with their mania

TexasTowelie

(112,103 posts)
4. The police should pull him over and have the flag taken down.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:44 AM
Oct 2021

It obstructs the driver's field of vision.

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SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
9. TYRANNY!!1!1!!
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:21 AM
Oct 2021

You know that's exactly what they'd say. They're being persecuted for their Constitutional right to blah, blah, blah ad nauseum. Just another reason to impeach the "illegal" president, fascist Joe Biden.

Reality doesn't exist for these morons. They've constructed their own fairy tale life, and Asshole45 is at the center of it. All because Asshole45 believes he's the center of the universe and everything revolves around him.

It's damned difficult to exist in a rational world when 30% of the people are totally irrational.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
12. The Judge is right.
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 09:47 AM
Oct 2021

The GOP / DT has had 10 months now to down play this as no big deal a “nothingburger” “just another day in January” and they have been fairly successful at that framing due in large part the milquetoast response by Dems and the Biden administration, DOJ.

The pandemic was absolutely the #1 issue PB needed to deal with starting Jan 20th but at the same time a very concerted, coordinated effort needed to be launched asserting the legitimacy of the election & PB, that is was not stolen. That 60+ lawsuits had shown conclusively there was no fraud. DT and his enablers needed to be held accountable for the clear crime of election interference (find me 11,780 votes) as well as a special prosecutor not a bi partisan committee that let the GOP delay this by months or the committee we have now ( that has let subpoenas be ignored and not done anything for a week now) but a special prosecutor not beholden to anyone assigned to investigate 1/6.

It simply amazes me how the Dems continue to be Charlie Brown to the GOP’s Lucy with the football. Bless their heart I know they mean well but President Biden saw up close how the GOP did everything they could to sabotage and obstruct President Obama how they toyed with his attempts at bi-partisanship and here President Biden has done the exact same thing. The Dems, President Biden and the DOJ need to get aggressive and use every tool in the toolbox to get this turned around ASAP. Bannon should be in a cell by now, inherent contempt of congress should have been charged to all 4 who have ignored the 1/6 committees subpoenas. The AG & DOJ need to engage with out hesitation. Obstruction of justice charges could have already been put on DT for telling people to ignore congressional subpoenas. A PR blitz needs to start refuting with facts and reality the “big lie”. The Dem Senators standing in the way need to stripped of all authority or assignments. If they switch to the party that is run by trump and killed 720,000 Americans tried to overthrow the government then so be it. GOP has been very effective at stopping everything even though they are the minority Dems can do the same and hope that 22 midterms gives us a solid majority in the senate (I know that’s a big if but what do we have now?).

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