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Bill Clinton in hospital with sepsis (Original Post) boston bean Oct 2021 OP
Not great... PCIntern Oct 2021 #1
Come on. What do you think? JanMichael Oct 2021 #7
Yes. PCIntern Oct 2021 #25
He had some significant heart problems as I recall... Nixie Oct 2021 #30
Yes, he has a bad heart Deminpenn Oct 2021 #35
He had a quadruple bypass in 2004. n/t whathehell Oct 2021 #68
Or? sheilahi Oct 2021 #70
So you really didn't keep it to yourself??? USALiberal Oct 2021 #45
Yes. I did. PCIntern Oct 2021 #63
He's at UC Irvine Nixie Oct 2021 #2
pic Celerity Oct 2021 #6
Nice, thank you! We go to the UCI medical hospital, but Nixie Oct 2021 #29
My daughter just started at UCI as an undergraduate. deurbano Oct 2021 #48
Congratulations to you and your daughter for her UCI Nixie Oct 2021 #60
Thanks very much! We're proud of her! She actually arrived as a junior, since she had a year of AP deurbano Oct 2021 #61
Thanks for sharing this! I'm excited for her just hearing Nixie Oct 2021 #64
An awesome hospital catchnrelease Oct 2021 #74
ooh Skittles Oct 2021 #3
Oh no. niyad Oct 2021 #4
Hope he recovers JohnSJ Oct 2021 #5
That's dangerous! SharonAnn Oct 2021 #8
I buried a husband who died from sepsis. OMGWTF Oct 2021 #52
So sorry!!!! Talitha Oct 2021 #54
My best friend died from it. AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #56
My father KT2000 Oct 2021 #72
Sounds Like He's On The Mend colsohlibgal Oct 2021 #9
My cousin died from sepsis MOMFUDSKI Oct 2021 #10
Hope he's okay JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #11
Healing Vibes to Pres Clinton.. Cha Oct 2021 #12
That's a lovely message MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #14
I love the healing message, MLB... . Cha Oct 2021 #34
That's nice, Cha! Nixie Oct 2021 #46
Mahalo, Nixie.. Cha Oct 2021 #66
information on Sepsis NewHendoLib Oct 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #37
Get well soon, President Clinton. (eom) StevieM Oct 2021 #15
Hubster had pneumonia and sepsis.. luvs2sing Oct 2021 #16
Please be well, Mr President. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #17
Serious stuff. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2021 #18
Dumbass "Dr." Chris Cuomo declared sepsis "not that serious." Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #19
Exactly Rebl2 Oct 2021 #22
Cuomo had Dr. Sanjay Gupta on; Gupta had spoken with Dr. at the Irvine hospital No Vested Interest Oct 2021 #23
None of which make sepsis less serious. Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #28
I tend to agree with you MsLeopard Oct 2021 #33
A couple days in the hospital is not unusual Deminpenn Oct 2021 #36
You don't fuck with sepsis. AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #58
Did anyone ask him when and from where he got his MD? AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #57
C'mon now Big Dawg, we still need you! marble falls Oct 2021 #20
Yikes! Retrograde Oct 2021 #21
Spokespeople trying to sound positive Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #24
thank you for link Kali Oct 2021 #27
More: James48 Oct 2021 #26
Rachel Maddow had a special report on this and had a specialist on with her to discuss it Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 #31
Kind of surprised shanti Oct 2021 #32
UCI was closer to where he was, maybe...? We're still curious Nixie Oct 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #40
Hoag Hospital in Newport Beach shanti Oct 2021 #42
I was thinking that, too, about Hoag. Probably a lot more private rooms suitable for a VIP. Nixie Oct 2021 #43
But aren't university hospitals (even public ones) supposed to be better for some things? UCSF deurbano Oct 2021 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #53
I agree catchnrelease Oct 2021 #75
Yes, they are research hospitals. Nixie Oct 2021 #59
UCI Sgent Oct 2021 #51
All the best, Big Dog. Speedy recovery. Hekate Oct 2021 #39
Love the Big Dog JI7 Oct 2021 #62
Finally some info: He was in Southern California for an event related to his foundation. Nixie Oct 2021 #41
Dr. Vin Gupta reacts to former President Clinton's recent hospitalization LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #44
Get well soon, President Clinton Catherine Vincent Oct 2021 #47
The quintuple bypass and subsequent switch to a vegan diet really changed him DFW Oct 2021 #49
I truly hope the best for him. AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #55
I had a friend die of sepsis in her forties after breaking a leg. soldierant Oct 2021 #65
maybe lucky he was in California where the hospitals aren't clogged with unvaccinated rurallib Oct 2021 #67
Sounds like he's recovering and in good spirits Patton French Oct 2021 #69
Bill Clinton isn't a perfect man but I really loved him and would vote for him again if I could. flying_wahini Oct 2021 #71
Just a suggestion - do not go the Fox site for this story. Boomerproud Oct 2021 #73

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
25. Yes.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:03 PM
Oct 2021

He’s clearly had muscle wasting for a long time IMO. Of course it could be a variety of other conditions but to me it didn’t look like simple weight loss.

That or some chronic condition associated with cancer.
On edit: the sepsis could be a result of a suppression of his immune system.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
30. He had some significant heart problems as I recall...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:15 PM
Oct 2021

He had a couple bypasses or something. I remember some press about him going vegan because of heart issues.

Deminpenn

(15,265 posts)
35. Yes, he has a bad heart
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:28 PM
Oct 2021

and at least one multiple bypass surgery.

He had to change his diet because of his heart problems. That's why he's lost weight.

sheilahi

(277 posts)
70. Or?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:25 PM
Oct 2021

Or...........maybe just needing to get away from Hillary for awhile after that Monica Lewinski movie? Okay, that was mean. But, wishing best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
29. Nice, thank you! We go to the UCI medical hospital, but
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:12 PM
Oct 2021

it’s the Orange, CA, location. My mom called me to tell me Clinton was at Irvine, and we were wondering what brought him out here but haven’t seen that info yet. Thank you.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
48. My daughter just started at UCI as an undergraduate.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:51 PM
Oct 2021

(She graduated from high school in 2020, but did her first year at UCI remotely.)

Hope Bill is ok, and wonder why UCI?

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
60. Congratulations to you and your daughter for her UCI
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 01:13 AM
Oct 2021

admission! I’ve heard over the years it’s getting harder and harder to get in to the UC system, so that’s an accomplishment.

I’m also curious why he was taken to UCI. Maybe it was closest to where he was. I saw one article saying he was at the UCI in Orange. That’s probably 20 minutes to a half hour from a premiere hospital in Newport, so maybe he was fairly urgent.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
61. Thanks very much! We're proud of her! She actually arrived as a junior, since she had a year of AP
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 02:04 AM
Oct 2021

and summer school credit... and she plans to become an occupational therapist. She (as a 2020 graduate) really took a hit, with the best part of senior year cancelled (and dance recitals with her senior solo, the school play she was in... etc.)... and she got into several East Coast colleges, but couldn't visit because of the pandemic, so eventually decided on UCI, partly because a close high school friend is also attending, and they missed all those months together. These kids are resilient, though... much more so than all the whiny Republicans, moaning about how oppressive masks and vaccines are! (And her apt. complex has a pool, which is a nice change for a kid from SF!)

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
64. Thanks for sharing this! I'm excited for her just hearing
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:01 PM
Oct 2021

all the plans. She chose a great career path.

That whole area is very nice around the campus, and there’s Laguna Beach to explore artsy things, lots of nice upscale places. She’ll have fun now, a welcome change from being hit with having to wait Covid out at such a transitional time in her life! Good times ahead.

catchnrelease

(1,944 posts)
74. An awesome hospital
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:13 PM
Oct 2021

At the end of 2019 my husband had a serious heart issue that the VA in Long Beach couldn't handle. They sent him to UCI where he was given the most amazing care and one of their cardio-electrophysiologists (what a mouthful!!) solved his issue, which had been deemed to be unfixable previously. He recovered there for a week and I can't say enough what a top notch place it is. Even their cafeteria is impressive, lol! If Clinton is there, he will be getting the best care.

Skittles

(153,104 posts)
3. ooh
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:25 PM
Oct 2021

I took my autistic brother to the hospital with that....bright red lump on his hand - he wouldn't say if it hurt, so I poked it hard - it hurt....

KT2000

(20,567 posts)
72. My father
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:05 PM
Oct 2021

and I don't know what started it. He died quickly from it. I heard it was a result of a urinary infection for Clinton so I imagine he is not very comfortable. Serious business.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
9. Sounds Like He's On The Mend
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:32 PM
Oct 2021

You can beat this and looks like you are.

You see this and wonder what’s keeping Twitler propped up.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,411 posts)
10. My cousin died from sepsis
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:33 PM
Oct 2021

and when I told my doc about it he said that happens a LOT in my business. I was floored. Very serious stuff.

Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #13)

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
16. Hubster had pneumonia and sepsis..
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:43 PM
Oct 2021

eight years ago. He was in the hospital on IV antibiotics for a week and was pretty wiped out for a while, but he had no lasting effects. I wish Bill Clinton a speedy and complete recovery.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,280 posts)
18. Serious stuff.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:46 PM
Oct 2021

My ex had lots of complications, the body fighting itself, I think. She eventually passed as her systems were overwhelmed and gradually shut down.

Hope the best for Bill......

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
19. Dumbass "Dr." Chris Cuomo declared sepsis "not that serious."
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:46 PM
Oct 2021

He should keep his flapper shut when he doesn't know what he's talking about.



No Vested Interest

(5,163 posts)
23. Cuomo had Dr. Sanjay Gupta on; Gupta had spoken with Dr. at the Irvine hospital
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:00 PM
Oct 2021

Said Bill Clinton is in ICU, more for privacy than condition.
Gupta asked Irvine Dr. if Clinton's heart was involved; answered negative.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
28. None of which make sepsis less serious.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:12 PM
Oct 2021

Sepsis kills. Frequently. Easily. Sometimes very quickly.

Optimism is great, but they kept this quiet for 2 days and put him in the ICU. I'm glad he's better, but you don't stick people in the ICU for "privacy" in the middle of a pandemic. That's a REALLY lame cover story.




MsLeopard

(1,265 posts)
33. I tend to agree with you
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:25 PM
Oct 2021

And the fact that he’s been admitted for two days already and in ICU leads me to believe it may have been a serious condition they wanted to keep quiet, and they’re only talking about it now because they’re confident he will recover, the crisis has ended. I hope my theory is correct.

Deminpenn

(15,265 posts)
36. A couple days in the hospital is not unusual
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:34 PM
Oct 2021

A family member had sepsis and spent a few days in one on IV antibiotics until stable, then came home and was on IV antibiotics for another couple of weeks before recovering with no ill-effects.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
58. You don't fuck with sepsis.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:59 AM
Oct 2021

It can kill quickly. I know — by best friend had it.

Sounds like they got Clinton’s in time.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
57. Did anyone ask him when and from where he got his MD?
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:56 AM
Oct 2021

This is nothing to take lightly. At all.

Cuomo can be an insufferable jerk at times — like now. Sepsis can take you QUICK. Sounds like they caught it in time, but still this is nothing to downplay, given Clinton’s age and heart issues.

Retrograde

(10,127 posts)
21. Yikes!
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:50 PM
Oct 2021

A friend died of a blood infection a few weeks ago! I hope they can treat Clinton's sepsis and that he suffers no further ill effects.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
24. Spokespeople trying to sound positive
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:02 PM
Oct 2021

Former president Bill Clinton was hospitalized earlier this week for an issue not related to covid-19 and is recovering, his spokesman said Thursday.

Clinton was admitted to the University of California Irvine Medical Center on Tuesday “to receive treatment for a non-Covid-related infection,” his spokesman Angel Ureña said in a statement.

“He is on the mend, in good spirits, and is incredibly thankful to the doctors, nurses, and staff providing him with excellent care," Ureña said.

-snip-

Clinton’s doctors, Alpesh Amin and Lisa Bardack, issued a joint statement Thursday night saying Clinton was responding well to treatment for his infection.

“He was admitted to the hospital for close monitoring and administered IV antibiotics and fluids. He remains at the hospital for continuous monitoring," they said. "After two days of treatment, his white blood cell count is trending down and he is responding to antibiotics well.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/14/former-president-bill-clinton-hospitalized/

James48

(4,426 posts)
26. More:
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:05 PM
Oct 2021
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/576882-bill-clinton-hospitalized-with-sepsis


“ "President Clinton was taken to UC Irvine Medical Center and diagnosed with an infection. He was admitted to the hospital for close monitoring and administered IV antibiotics and fluids. He remains at the hospital for continuous monitoring," they said.

"After two days of treatment, his white blood cell count is trending down and he is responding to antibiotics well," they added. "The California-based medical team has been in constant communication with the President's New York-based medical team, including his cardiologist. We hope to have him go home soon."

(More at link)

Rhiannon12866

(204,631 posts)
31. Rachel Maddow had a special report on this and had a specialist on with her to discuss it
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:18 PM
Oct 2021

Wishing all the best to President Clinton, the only POTUS I've ever seen in person. He is one brilliant speaker!

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
38. UCI was closer to where he was, maybe...? We're still curious
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:39 PM
Oct 2021

what event he was attending or what brought him out here.

Response to shanti (Reply #32)

shanti

(21,675 posts)
42. Hoag Hospital in Newport Beach
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:52 PM
Oct 2021

Considered the best in OC, at least when I lived down there. UCI Med is a public hospital.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
43. I was thinking that, too, about Hoag. Probably a lot more private rooms suitable for a VIP.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:54 PM
Oct 2021

It's in Newport Beach, after all.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
50. But aren't university hospitals (even public ones) supposed to be better for some things? UCSF
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:56 PM
Oct 2021

is highly regarded.

Response to deurbano (Reply #50)

catchnrelease

(1,944 posts)
75. I agree
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:27 PM
Oct 2021

I mentioned above that my husband was treated at UCI for a heart issue. The doctors, interns, staff were so impressive and they had amazing new equipment that was able to make a '3-D' map of his heart so it could be repaired.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
51. UCI
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:08 AM
Oct 2021

probably has more round the clock staff / residents including cardiac, etc. If he is really in sepsis they probably wouldn't put him in a VIP room anyway -- other than very few places (military around DC mostly) VIP rooms are more for general medical or surgical issues, not cardiac or icu care.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
62. Love the Big Dog
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:54 AM
Oct 2021

I really hope he recovers . I am one of those who has always loved the Clintons .

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
41. Finally some info: He was in Southern California for an event related to his foundation.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:52 PM
Oct 2021

He had a urinary tract infection that spread to his bloodstream. Is that sepsis? Someone brought up Hoag Hospital -- probably a lot more private rooms there for a VIP, so that is curious.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/14/politics/bill-clinton-hospitalized/index.html

Love Bill Clinton! Saw him in person when he was campaigning for Hillary in Southern California and was just mesmerized by him. Such star power! He is the only president/ex-president I've seen in person. Women were swooning as he walked the rope line. He is such a mega star. Get well soon, President Clinton!

DFW

(54,268 posts)
49. The quintuple bypass and subsequent switch to a vegan diet really changed him
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:53 PM
Oct 2021

The first time I met him was during his first term in office, and he looked good, but was NOT "skinny." He was only 49 at the time. I didn't actually get to talk to him again until about ten years later, and the difference was startling. He was skinny as a rail, and in someone that tall, it really stands out if you knew him before. But he really seemed healthy, not at all sickly. It has been a few years now, but a friend of mine is the mother of Chelsea's husband, and she said he still looked great--although this is now two years ago. In your mid-seventies this can obviously change rapidly.

A severe infection can hit anyone. In 2003, on the way to our younger daughter's high school graduation in Waimea, we stopped off in San Francisco to give my wife's (then-) 76 year old mom a rest from the travel. Our elder daughter, 20 years old at the time, started feeling bad, and didn't want to come out with us at all. She was feeling worse by the time we got to Kona on the Big Island, and we took her to a hospital. They said she might have a serious streptococcus infection, so they took a throat swab, and freaked out. It was off the charts. They laid her down and hooked her up to a liter (!!!) of IV antibiotics. They said she might not have lived two days if we hadn't brought her in.

These things are not to be trifled with. I hope Bill Clinton makes it out of this OK. He is 75. That's not super-old by today's standards, but his body went through a lot with the bypass, and that diet means you have to look for protein sources outside the traditional meat and eggs. I have heart issues, too, and swore off red meat and butter nearly thirty years ago. Still, my wife, a master chef, adapted instantly, and her fish and poultry dishes are so amazing, I haven't lost weight at all. With Bill Clinton, it was night and day.

I hope we still have his voice around for many years to come. He does have a lot of determination, so I think he should come out of this. If his doctors know the least bit about what they're doing--and I'm sure they know plenty--they will not treat this lightly, and keep him locked up until he's truly well enough to be out and about again.

soldierant

(6,785 posts)
65. I had a friend die of sepsis in her forties after breaking a leg.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 04:05 PM
Oct 2021

She was already disabled by multiple allergies, and was in a small town hospital (wich I'm sure did not have the resources to deal with a sepsis patient who already had a compromised immune system.) Bill is, what, twice her age? but lacking that pre-existing conditon and receiving top of the line care. I think his chances are good - and I also hope so.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
67. maybe lucky he was in California where the hospitals aren't clogged with unvaccinated
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:09 PM
Oct 2021

covid patients. My SIL went to the hospital in Arizona and had to wait 2 days to get a bed in the ICU for what they thought at the time was sepsis.

Boomerproud

(7,938 posts)
73. Just a suggestion - do not go the Fox site for this story.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:12 PM
Oct 2021

The comment section is, unsurprisingly, vile. The hate.
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