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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,063 posts)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:19 PM Oct 2021

Sanders blames media for Americans not knowing details of Biden spending plan

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) blamed the media, in part, for Americans not knowing what is in a sweeping social spending plan being negotiated by the White House and Congressional Democrats.

Sanders, in a statement, said it is "absurd" that many Americans don't know what is in President Biden's plan and, while cautioning that there could be many reasons for that, launched a broadside against how the bill has been covered by the press.

"The reality that the mainstream media has done an exceptionally poor job in covering what actually is in the legislation," Sanders said.

"There have been endless stories about the politics of passing Build Back Better, the role of the president, the conflicts in the House and the Senate, the opposition of two senators, the size of the bill, etc. - but very limited coverage as to what the provisions of the bill are and the crises for working people that they address," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sanders-blames-media-for-americans-not-knowing-details-of-biden-spending-plan/ar-AAPzGEj

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Sanders blames media for Americans not knowing details of Biden spending plan (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
He's not wrong. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #1
Yep. All they do is blather on about the price tag. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #2
Except it's not fully written yet jimfields33 Oct 2021 #4
that is a valid point Celerity Oct 2021 #18
True WHITT Oct 2021 #20
Yes, this is true, BUT: NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #3
Yep. progressoid Oct 2021 #8
Politicians, Media and The Democratic Voters are separate. Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #5
6. Some just prefer to read the news Crowman2009 Oct 2021 #9
Why blame the media for not producing what will not be read or viewed? TreasonousBastard Oct 2021 #6
Dumbing down of America? Give them shit because they don't want pearls? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #21
Did anyone hold a press conference going over it? Some people were shockd Hoyt Oct 2021 #7
damn! i didn't know about medicare dental until 2028! orleans Oct 2021 #12
I get it. Happened to look a month or so ago at proposed dental because Hoyt Oct 2021 #14
the media doesn't report much of anything... stillcool Oct 2021 #10
He's not the only one. After all, it's true! And obvious! JHB Oct 2021 #11
Sanders isn't exactly a succinct messenger. maxsolomon Oct 2021 #13
+1. "Build Back Better" should have been a byline, motto, or something. Hoyt Oct 2021 #15
That isn't the media's job, the media's job is to report.. Raine Oct 2021 #16
The Dems need to spend some cash for airtime, and start broadcasting information. nt Progressive Jones Oct 2021 #17
A lot of people gave up news. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #19
Not only that Deminpenn Oct 2021 #22
Like how media didn't report 2016 party policies until the day after the election. betsuni Oct 2021 #23
He is correct, and corp media is awful. Ever watch CBS Morning news? BeckyDem Oct 2021 #24
He is correct mcar Oct 2021 #25
The other day I watched a clip of Nancy Pelosi saying... SMC22307 Oct 2021 #26

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
2. Yep. All they do is blather on about the price tag.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:24 PM
Oct 2021

Not a peep from them about what's in it, or that it's all paid for.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
20. True
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:25 AM
Oct 2021

but words matter. If you say, here's what's in our proposal, then you're not breaking a promise if parts don't get enacted.

NH Ethylene

(30,793 posts)
3. Yes, this is true, BUT:
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:24 PM
Oct 2021

We Dems need to do a much better job of advertising our great ideas and touting our successes. We also need to advise citizens of the dangers of the extremist agenda.

Why do we have to rely on moderate Republicans to do warn about the attacks on voting rights?

progressoid

(49,825 posts)
8. Yep.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:01 PM
Oct 2021

And advertise. I've seen a dozen ads by the right about this and have yet to see one from our side.

Tetrachloride

(7,721 posts)
5. Politicians, Media and The Democratic Voters are separate.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:31 PM
Oct 2021

1. some voters watch TV news
2. some voters are heavy into social media
3. some people just watch Netflix
4. some are gamers
5. some don’t have money

The effective politicians will know what to do.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Did anyone hold a press conference going over it? Some people were shockd
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:50 PM
Oct 2021

in past few days to find that adding dental to Medicare wasn’t planned to begin until 2028.

Hears a good article from CBS 10 days ago on whatever in the Bill. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/budget-reconciliation-bill-build-back-better-act/

The Bill itself has been available about 4 weeks.

Point is if the media isn’t getting message across, maybe a big assed press presentation and/or infomercial would have helped.



Then, again, maybe several Bills over a few months would have been a better approach. And who started the 10-year projection of expenditures?

orleans

(33,986 posts)
12. damn! i didn't know about medicare dental until 2028!
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:00 PM
Oct 2021

it wouldn't effect me at this point but i know a couple friends who could really use that help right now.

i should probably have a look at the link you posted--now i'm wondering what the hell else is getting kicked down the road that will never happen. (there i go again--always the optimist!)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. I get it. Happened to look a month or so ago at proposed dental because
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:25 PM
Oct 2021

was hoping it would be soon if enacted. Saw 2028, cursed, and moved on. That means nothing 7 years away. Even if it occurs then, it will likely be limited to $1500 or so (although haven’t seen that amount). But, to be optimistic, better than nothing.

Most of the other stuff in the Bill is solid and helpful to people.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. the media doesn't report much of anything...
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:15 PM
Oct 2021

commentary, opinions, someone close to someone said something. All breaking news. They report what the reporters from other news sources report, but in the way they want. They do the same thing with any information about any elected official. Tweak the story just right so that a few sentences remain intact, but highlight portions that can be used to create the ideal perception. Amazing how often an article is reduced to a sentence, that has little in common with the story.

JHB

(37,128 posts)
11. He's not the only one. After all, it's true! And obvious!
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:15 PM
Oct 2021

But that's pretty much on par for today's mainstream media.

In much the same way as "Republicans refuse any concession whatsoever" is now being treated as so normal that it is never even mentioned in reporting of the otherwise pretty typical hashing-out politics between Biden, the progressives, and the (non-"moderate" ) Democratic Obstacle Caucus. It's not worth reporting that even the "moderate" and "reasonable" Republicans have completely removed themselves from Congress doing its job?

maxsolomon

(32,979 posts)
13. Sanders isn't exactly a succinct messenger.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:18 PM
Oct 2021

They need to be simple simple simple, because Murikins are simpletons.

"Build Back Better" is alliterative, but vague. "Families First Act"?


Raine

(30,540 posts)
16. That isn't the media's job, the media's job is to report..
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 10:46 PM
Oct 2021

to do that they must be given the details. It's the job of the politcians to give them the information they need to do factual reporting.

KentuckyWoman

(6,666 posts)
19. A lot of people gave up news.
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:49 PM
Oct 2021

TFG is so offensive a lot of people just tune out. Add covid fatigue. A lot of people think social media is news. It isn't.

My guess is under informed people are easier to control so it serves a purpose

Deminpenn

(15,246 posts)
22. Not only that
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 07:50 AM
Oct 2021

but at least on MSNBC all the primetime shows are obessessed with repetitious voter suppression and white supremacists stories with abortion rights segements occassionally added. These are important issues, but don't deserve 100% of the time.

Not one host have spent their entire show explaining the details or having a hour long discussion of what's in the bill.

betsuni

(25,122 posts)
23. Like how media didn't report 2016 party policies until the day after the election.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 08:42 AM
Oct 2021

I'll never forget it. Day after the election was the only time the policies of the two parties were put side by side. They'd made the whole thing about a fictional Hillary Clinton monster. Now they'll try to do it with Biden. Those who contributed to the fictional Hillary bullshit lies should be ashamed of themselves. But they aren't.

Like this:

"I don't want to see the American people voting for the lesser of two evils."

"Is that how you would describe Hilary Clinton against Donald Trump -- the lesser of two evils?"

"Well, if you look -- No, I wouldn't describe it, but that's what the American people are saying."

How did that "lesser of two evils" work out for you, asshole?

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
24. He is correct, and corp media is awful. Ever watch CBS Morning news?
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:49 AM
Oct 2021

TWO hour "news". Sometimes they actually begin the opener with celebrity news! They generally focus on the fight and not on content between the political parties.

SMC22307

(8,088 posts)
26. The other day I watched a clip of Nancy Pelosi saying...
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 11:07 AM
Oct 2021

pretty much the same thing... the media isn't reporting what's IN the bill. She and Bernie are both right.

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