Manchin Defeats Progressives in Battle Over Joe Biden's Climate Plan

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Let's get this right...allowing a Democrat in name only to hold our climate solutions hostage is CRIMINAL.

A central part of President Joe Biden's climate change agenda will reportedly be removed from the bill because of Manchin's opposition, according to a report from The New York Times citing congressional staffers and lobbyists.

A plan to rapidly replace coal and gas-fired power plants throughout the U.S. with wind, solar and nuclear energy is expected to be cut from the bill in a move that could outrage progressives in Congress.


https://www.newsweek.com/joe-manchin-defeats-progressives-battle-over-joe-biden-climate-plan-1639579

[Budi]

1. Looks like Joe Biden's exceptional policy for future generations to build upon,

..and Americans today will get nothing.

Because nothing is somehow better than 2 trillion worth of something.

Well, thanks for nothing then!
Sorry President Biden to you & your dedicated team, who put months, weeks, days & long tedious hours delivering America the finest policy plan in decades.

Sorry.

[2naSalit]

2. His coal mining business might have to change...

Its shitty practices and they might well be shut down, he can't have that.

[Earth-shine]

3. What a terrible headline by Newsweek. Should say, "Manchin Defeats Clean Energy for Us All."

I hate him and the corporate money he stands for.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Shitty headline by a shitty RW publication

This is the magazine that published the article by Trump’s coup architect John Eastman that claimed Harris was constitutionally ineligible to be VP because her parents were foreign born.

[hatrack]

16. Will coverage from the Washington Post suffice?

White House officials are looking to scale back a legislative proposal central to President Biden’s climate goals after intense pushback from Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.), illustrating the West Virginia Democrat’s enormous sway in budget negotiations. Manchin has made clear that he opposes creation of a Clean Electricity Performance Program, or CEPP, which would reward utilities that increase their clean energy supply by 4 percent a year — and penalize those that do not.

“Senator Manchin has clearly expressed his concerns about using taxpayer dollars to pay private companies to do things they’re already doing,” the senator’s office said in a statement. “He continues to support efforts to combat climate change while protecting American energy independence and ensuring our energy reliability.”

White House officials have not decided to completely jettison the CEPP, but are instead looking at how to make changes that would ensure Manchin’s support for the broader economic package.

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The Washington Post reported Thursday that Manchin had voiced his strong opposition to the program to the White House last week, prompting a reassessment of the measure. White House officials are now working to weaken the program, which is part of a $3.5 trillion bill Manchin and another centrist Democrat, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.), consider too costly. If Manchin signals to the White House that he will oppose the package, it will not have enough votes to clear the Senate. That makes his support for any resolution crucial.

EDIT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/16/white-house-climate-manchin/

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. If you can't see the difference between WaPo's coverage and NW I can't help you. Nt

[hatrack]

18. K bye

.

[Deminpenn]

4. The coal industry can't be saved by Manchin or anyone else

More and more businesses and industries are moving toward renewable energy. Of the fossil fuels, natural gas is rapidly replacing coal for electricity generation. A good example is Consol Energy, once primarily a coal-based energy company. In the fast few years, they've gotten almost completely out of the coal business. Their stock trades for about $20 a share.

Manchin would be far better off supporting the child care, child tax credits, expansion of medicare that his WVa constituents desperately need rather than holding up everything in a desperate attempt to save a dying industry.

It's like in my area where people truly think the mills with good paying jobs and benefits are going to return any day now.

[JohnSJ]

11. Exactly. Currently it provides only 19% of our energy, and it's use has been decreasing every

year.

The writing is on the wall

[Hortensis]

5. That people of a coal state would protect their failing industry at the

expense of everyone in America and the entire planet, including their own children, is dreadful.

"If I can go home and explain it, I'll vote for it. If I can't explain it, I can't vote for it." Manchin's mantra, well known to his colleagues.

Btw, any suggestion that one subgroup is fighting to stop climate change inadvertently misrepresents the Democratic Party and our congressional caucuses. This is a huge, fundamental Democratic Party issue. Many people in and out of both houses of congress were involved, over years, in developing both Biden's climate initiatives and the climate applications worked into almost every provision of the infrastructure bills.

Manchin didn't "defeat" just a subgroup in the house, and he didn't block our clean electricity initiative by himself. He is able to block over 250 congressional Democrats who support this simply by making our senate 50 a 49. His Democratic colleagues no doubt saw it coming but still feel sick.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. Hard cold math

If Democrats hadn't flipped two Georgia Senate seats in the January runoff elections we would not be talking about Joe Manchin today. He's a fossil fuel guy, from a fossil fuel state, always has been always will be. The very slight difference between Manchin and a Republican Senator from Oklahoma is that Biden had a little wiggle room with Manchin to trade off some economic favors for West Virginia in return for some climate change measures, in order to secure Manchin's vote, since he is not hard wired locked in to trying to take Biden down. I don't know what the final package will look like, but I expect it will include some modest efforts to fight climate change and some money to provide clean energy jobs for West Virginians in particular. No one is better positioned to do that type of bargaining with Manchin than Presodent Biden.

WE NEED A BIGGER MAJORITY IN THE SENATE.

[JohnSJ]

13. Yup. A two seat or more majority to be exact

[Amishman]

15. Well said. I'm glad to be in a position to pass anything at all

Given how close we are to the Pubs being able to stonewall absolutely everything.

2022 is coming. Are we ready?

[Hotler]

7. I sure hope the Pro Manchin DUers will come along soon and explain to us

how great this shit sandwich is and, do we chew each bite slowly and savoir it or gulp it down as fast as we can?

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. Bullshit narrative from a RW source.

Nobody has been defeated by strategic leaks of Manchin’s “demands”.

You and I aren’t privy to the sausage making, and neither is Newsweek.

[JohnSJ]

10. Coal provides approximately 19% of our energy needs, and that has been decreasing every year

Regardless what Manchin says or thinks, coal is not the future. The writing is on the wall. It is costly and dangerous to mine, and environmentaly unsafe.

Because of the current make up of the House and Senate, we don’t have many options. If we can gain at least a two seat majority in the Senate, Manchin and Sinema would not be able to hold the Democrats hostage in passing bills

[Patton French]

12. Newsweek?

They love a sensational headline, don’t they.

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14. Stll the truth. Manchin's in this for himself only.