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CousinIT

(9,224 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:15 AM Oct 2021

Here it comes: "Powell was fully vaccinated! See, vaccines don't work!!"

You KNOW this shit is coming:



fact that colin powell was fully vaccinated about to become a talking point in the Innumerate States of America

vaccination reduces hospitalization in those 65+ by 94%, but it can't prevent all deaths

but anecdotes hijack our primitive minds, built for another age
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Here it comes: "Powell was fully vaccinated! See, vaccines don't work!!" (Original Post) CousinIT Oct 2021 OP
He May Have Had The Shots, Sir, But He Was Not 'Vaccinated' The Magistrate Oct 2021 #1
Of course. But our media refuses to provide important context to this story - like many others. n/t CousinIT Oct 2021 #4
Of course JohnSJ Oct 2021 #10
He was VACCINATED, but NOT IMMUNIZED. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #11
Fair Point, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2021 #18
He had multiple myeloma, a blood cancer. SharonAnn Oct 2021 #13
and prostate cancer malaise Oct 2021 #15
OF COURSE the media leaves out one very pertinent fact: CousinIT Oct 2021 #2
Before the vaccination came out they were all "he had comorbidities he's gonna die anyway" Walleye Oct 2021 #3
He was also a prostate cancer survivor. Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #5
According to recent CDC data, Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #6
Wow, I had no idea he had that too Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #8
The Covid vaccine doesn't make 84-year-old cancer patients immortal! EarlG Oct 2021 #7
Good point of course empedocles Oct 2021 #12
It actually makes a case for more people to get vaccinated. piddyprints Oct 2021 #9
Didn't work for him, because some unvaxxed fool got to him. marble falls Oct 2021 #14
Who was it? fescuerescue Oct 2021 #17
you do not know if that was the case, fully vaxxed can also transmit nt Celerity Oct 2021 #23
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #25
I've already seen one moron try to claim that he died AS A RESULT Tanuki Oct 2021 #16
It would take a very bad and uncaring person to use a COVID death to prove their point fescuerescue Oct 2021 #19
He also had blood cancer obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #20
Some of us here have tried to temper the statements about Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #21
Fox News wasted no time underpants Oct 2021 #22
There is some pushback on this LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #24
So glad I've opted out of this discussion gratuitous Oct 2021 #26
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 #27
+1 MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #28

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
1. He May Have Had The Shots, Sir, But He Was Not 'Vaccinated'
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:18 AM
Oct 2021

Given his cancers and their treatment, the odds that the vaccines produced an antibody response run about one in four.

malaise

(268,702 posts)
15. and prostate cancer
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 11:14 AM
Oct 2021
https://blackdoctor.org/colin-powell-prostate-cancer/


Colin Powell: Politics, Power & Prostate Cancer Survivor
Black men develop prostate cancer 60% more often than white men. In addition, they have a higher chance of dying from it. Because of this heightened risk, Black men are encouraged to start prostate cancer screening early with yearly PSA tests and physical exams at age 40, and even earlier if they have a strong family history of prostate cancer exists.

This is a lesson that retired four-star United States Army general, 65th United States Secretary of State, and former National Security Advisor, Commander of the U.S. Army Forces Command, Colin Powell, knew very well.

“When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at 66, Iwasn’t terribly surprised or shocked,” former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Powell said. “For the five years before that, I had been going for very regular checkups and my PSA was always high. It floated up and down. PSA alone doesn’t indicate cancer, it just says something is going on.”

Thankfully, Powell had the knowledge he needed to deal with this challenge, in addition to the understanding that cancer doesn’t care about reputation. In fact, Powell had been tracking and preparing for the diagnosis for several years. He was so diligent about watching for potential issues with his prostate that he had already gone through two biopsies before the third turned up positive for cancer.

CousinIT

(9,224 posts)
2. OF COURSE the media leaves out one very pertinent fact:
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:19 AM
Oct 2021
The media are INCAPABLE of providing important context to their stories. Rather, they are INTENTIONALLY refusing to do so.




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Walleye

(30,978 posts)
3. Before the vaccination came out they were all "he had comorbidities he's gonna die anyway"
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:19 AM
Oct 2021

Now every vaccinated person who dies was definitely caused by COVID-19 nothing else according to the same people. I think their brains are made with some kind of viscous liquid that moves around with the political propaganda

Farmer-Rick

(10,139 posts)
5. He was also a prostate cancer survivor.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:22 AM
Oct 2021

So, he did have a comorbidity.

I see others have discovered his cancer history. Good. Just a reminder even if you are vaccinated, you can still be susceptible to the virus.

"Black men develop prostate cancer 60% more often than white men. In addition, they have a higher chance of dying from it."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blackdoctor.org/colin-powell-prostate-cancer/%3famp

Elessar Zappa

(13,909 posts)
6. According to recent CDC data,
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:24 AM
Oct 2021

you’re 11x likelier to die of COVID if you’re unvaccinated. So yes, some vaccinated do die but it’s a very small percentage (plus, Powell had multiple myeloma cancer so he was immune-suppressed).

Farmer-Rick

(10,139 posts)
8. Wow, I had no idea he had that too
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:35 AM
Oct 2021

Too bad they couldn't protect him from exposure to the virus thanks to the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

I wonder if he had lived in New Zealand or another country that actually tried to stop the spread of the virus, if he would have lived longer?

EarlG

(21,935 posts)
7. The Covid vaccine doesn't make 84-year-old cancer patients immortal!
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:25 AM
Oct 2021

Therefore we should all stop taking the vaccine!!!!!!11111

Good grief.

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
9. It actually makes a case for more people to get vaccinated.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:35 AM
Oct 2021

He had other health issues that made it imperative for the rest of us to do what we could to stop the spread. Too many people dropped the ball (or intentionally threw it down). The more people vaccinated, the less likely that others who won’t do well will catch Covid.

It’s a simple concept, but consider who we’re talking about.

Response to marble falls (Reply #14)

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
19. It would take a very bad and uncaring person to use a COVID death to prove their point
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 11:25 AM
Oct 2021

But that's conservatives for you.

fortunately we don't do that.

Ms. Toad

(33,997 posts)
21. Some of us here have tried to temper the statements about
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 11:48 AM
Oct 2021

likelihood of hospitalization, death, and infection for a variety of reasons, including creating unrealistic expectations about effectiveness would come back to bite us.

Pretending the LA Statistics were predictive, rahter than a snapshot of a time of low infection, high mitigation, and low delta proportion.

It is harder for anedcotes to hijack our minds when we have't used data inappropriately to make ourselves feel invincible.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. So glad I've opted out of this discussion
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 12:35 PM
Oct 2021

I've decided just not to engage the anti-vaxx nitwits. They stopped listening and processing new information when they found a square on the game board they're comfortable with. It's a foolish and possibly lethal gamble they're taking and it's wholly unnecessary.

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