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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEnd of JFK's last speech, which he never got to deliver.
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Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Bev54
(10,039 posts)KS Toronado
(17,158 posts)bluestarone
(16,872 posts)Chalco
(1,307 posts)hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)And we are still fighting those fanatics today.
Bastards.
Escurumbele
(3,379 posts)Maybe I don't understand your statement.
hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)JFK was killed by fanatics of some sort, even on the day he was saying we should resist fanaticism.
We are still fighting those same type fanatics today.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,075 posts)... that is exactly what I was going to point out; they got him because of that and the Dulles brothers.
Irish_Dem
(46,579 posts)DickKessler
(364 posts)hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)DickKessler
(364 posts)hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)than what the Warren Commission said.
DickKessler
(364 posts)hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)Where did something erroneous like that occur in the HSCA?
DickKessler
(364 posts)hadEnuf
(2,177 posts)DickKessler
(364 posts)CloudWatcher
(1,845 posts)And for those (like me) who never trust anything read on the internet without sources ... this was in a tweet from Michael Beschloss, Nov 7, 2013:
Link to tweet
And reported on by Huffpost: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jfk-assassination_n_4233535
EarnestPutz
(2,117 posts)....big ideas that held a promise for a new and better future. It harked back to FDRs New Deal and we were a lot less cynical back then.
calimary
(81,139 posts)I think the JFK assassination was a BIG jolt. That may have been the beginning of the end of the idealism that America used to be about.
EarnestPutz
(2,117 posts).....more than that, I think, a loss of pride, hope, ambition and care that really got going when Reagan preached his gospel of selfishness.
MasonDreams
(756 posts)Into new frontiers of peace and abundance".The very heart ❤️ of why those treasonous Govt goons murdered him. No Cuba coup, no Viet Nam war We are going to the MOON AND BEYOND!!! In service of all mankind.
This land we love is your land, this land is my land. Paranoid psychos took our President with the ☮️ Peace Corp, and a 🌟 Star Trekesque future. If we don't stop them they'll turn our whole planet into a burning hell. Oops, too late!
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,075 posts)...eom.
PS: See my post above.
Justice matters.
(6,921 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)The invitations became precious family heirlooms. Still hurts, after all these years.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Hamlette
(15,408 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)calimary
(81,139 posts)I can use it in our Call to Action email, one of these weekends. Maybe I'll save it for "that" week coming up in November.
DickKessler
(364 posts)On the one hand, I have to hand it to him for inspiring so much public service and progressive politics, for his soaring and inspiring oratory, and for speaking out on civil rights and heading towards detente with the Soviets toward the end of his life/Presidency.
On the other hand, the guy was a pathological womanizer, a trust-funder, and hid all his sexual affairs and serious health problems from the public. Plus, he did escalate the Cold War initially with the operations against Castro (Mongoose) which led to the Cuban Missile Crisis in the first place, as well as escalating in Vietnam even though it doesnt seem like Kennedy would have wanted something like what LBJ did (but then again, neither did LBJ but politically he felt as if he had no other choice).
A complicated and tragic figure, for sure.
Mike Nelson
(9,945 posts)... Biden should say this... it's not really "stealing," since JFK and most politicians took lines from others and had speechwriters.
dlk
(11,514 posts)Its frightening to think how widespread & deeply entrenched American fascism truly is. Although it now has a much larger microphone than in the past and we are seeing it much more clearly, it has always been a part of the fabric of our country.
DickKessler
(364 posts)dlk
(11,514 posts)DickKessler
(364 posts)In any event, I would recommend the book "Dallas 1963" by Bill Minutaglio and Steven L. Davis. There was so how much vocal hate in Dallas for JFK, and for liberals in general. Most especially among the Far-Right, of course. They thought LBJ was a traitor to the state for being part of the Kennedy administration.
That doesn't mean that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't a deranged wannabe Communist revolutionary and that he didn't act alone in killing President Kennedy. But it does put the context of JFK's fateful visit in a sobering light, and explains why so many people warned him not to go to Dallas specifically and why a lot of people think a domestic right-wing conspiracy was behind his assassination. Outside of Orange County, California, Dallas was the Bircher capital of the nation at that time. Lots of "crazies" there!