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So after this Bannon vote tonight (Original Post) Beachnutt Oct 2021 OP
Unlikely FBaggins Oct 2021 #1
but couldn't be jailed until he testifies.....? getagrip_already Oct 2021 #3
He should be held without bail Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #4
And is a flight risk! SheltieLover Oct 2021 #7
Not really FBaggins Oct 2021 #8
I read I think if it was designated as inherent contempt, it would be sprinkleeninow Oct 2021 #10
Essentially correct FBaggins Oct 2021 #11
This whole thing makes my head spin somewhat. sprinkleeninow Oct 2021 #13
Even if he agreed to testify right now, Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #12
That's unlikely FBaggins Oct 2021 #14
Then it goes to the DOJ JohnSJ Oct 2021 #5
Jamie Raskin was on a few minutes ago Beachnutt Oct 2021 #6
He probably will testify eventually FBaggins Oct 2021 #9
Naw, the lush will sue. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #2

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
1. Unlikely
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:23 PM
Oct 2021

It probably goes to the full house next.

Really little reason for him to change his mind prior to a grand jury actually getting involved

getagrip_already

(14,737 posts)
3. but couldn't be jailed until he testifies.....?
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:26 PM
Oct 2021

And wouldn't it be up to the house to decide when to schedule it....

So once he is arrested, couldn't he just be held until the house is good and ready to hold a hearing? Say after one of their long holiday recesses?

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
4. He should be held without bail
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:31 PM
Oct 2021

because he has shown that he has a nasty habit of not showing up for legal proceedings.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
8. Not really
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:44 PM
Oct 2021

They didn’t vote to use “inherent” contempt. They voted to refer him for a possible criminal prosecution.

Actually - they voted to ask the House to consider such a referral.

And you don’t get locked up on a referral. You get locked up when you actually get charged. And perhaps not even then since it’s a misdemeanor. He might need to be convicted first.

And all of that ignores possible court action regarding the claim of privilege. Which could take a very long time

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
10. I read I think if it was designated as inherent contempt, it would be
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:53 PM
Oct 2021

harsher in the beginning, but could hit a snag later with pleading the 5th and then no chance of criminal charges allowed.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
11. Essentially correct
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 07:00 PM
Oct 2021

Inherent contempt (which hasn’t been used since the other two options were added in law - and might never be) would theoretically allow them to lock him up now. But only until Congress is out of session. And the privilege claim really complicates that.

No chance of criminal charges because Congress isn’t a criminal prosecutor.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
12. Even if he agreed to testify right now,
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 07:29 PM
Oct 2021

he has still committed a crime by not showing up on the original date.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
14. That's unlikely
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 08:15 PM
Oct 2021

He would have too much of a due process claim to be convicted just based on what has occurred so far.

Beachnutt

(7,318 posts)
6. Jamie Raskin was on a few minutes ago
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:35 PM
Oct 2021

and said he thinks bannon will fold.
Surely he will be thrown in jail for all this delay until time for testimony.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
9. He probably will testify eventually
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

Perhaps taking the 5th on some things.

But the game is delay. He isn’t going to fold just because the committee held a “we really mean it” vote.

My guess is that it will be after a grand jury indictment and at least one court ruling.

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