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We have heard that "Not all who wander are lost." Isn't it just as true that not all (Original Post) Atticus Oct 2021 OP
Correct, there are also a few right-wingers, such as SineManchin. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #1
"Liberal" actually is centrist RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #2
I agree that much of what is now considered liberal used to be "centrist", but liberalism Atticus Oct 2021 #3
Thing is, it only means that in the US RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #4

RFCalifornia

(440 posts)
2. "Liberal" actually is centrist
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

Liberal refers to capitalist economics, with liberal laws about tariffs and taxation

Leftists on the other hand, are critical of capitalism

There is a difference

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
3. I agree that much of what is now considered liberal used to be "centrist", but liberalism
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 03:49 PM
Oct 2021

is concerned with much more than economics.

My dictionary says liberalism is "a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy and free enterprise." Economic policies are seen as a means to the end of achieving those benefits for the people.

RFCalifornia

(440 posts)
4. Thing is, it only means that in the US
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:54 PM
Oct 2021

Around the world "liberal" means liberal economics

I've heard some people say we should call ourselves "progressives" but that has problems as well. Progressives at the turn of the last century heralded eugenics and prohibition among other causes

We are leftists. We fall to the left of the spectrum and there's nothing wrong with that

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