Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:09 AM
babylonsister (170,220 posts)
Judge Says GOP Congressman Can't Be Left Alone With EvidenceJudge Says GOP Congressman Can’t Be Left Alone With Evidence Undercover The judge was so concerned that Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE) might compromise the case that he prohibited Fortenberry from looking at the evidence against him by himself. Roger Sollenberger Political Reporter Updated Oct. 29, 2021 5:47AM ET / Published Oct. 29, 2021 4:50AM ET Bill Clark/Getty After Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE) was indicted last week for lying to the FBI over foreign donations to his campaign, authorities took the rare step Thursday of trying to prevent the nine-term Republican from tampering with witnesses or handling evidence without supervision. The order, handed down by Judge Stanley Blumenfield in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, also reveals that the government is pursuing multiple related investigations involving other “public officials.” In the ruling, Blumenfield sided with the prosecution’s concerns that Fortenberry cannot be trusted to handle evidence about cooperating witnesses. The order prohibits Fortenberry from taking notes or “memorializing” the evidence, and even requires his lawyers to ensure he is “never left alone with any Cooperator Materials.” “Defendant may not take any Cooperator Materials out of the room in which defendant is meeting with the Defense Team. At no time, under no circumstance, will any Cooperator Materials be left in the possession, custody, or control of defendant, regardless of defendant’s custody status,” the judge wrote.
“Because these materials could be used to identify the confidential informants or cooperating witnesses," the judge wrote, "the Court finds that the unauthorized dissemination or distribution of the materials may compromise the ability of such persons to participate effectively in future investigations in an undercover capacity and/or may expose him/her to potential safety risks.” more... https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-says-gop-congressman-jeff-fortenberry-cant-be-left-alone-with-evidence?ref=home
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babylonsister | Oct 2021 | OP |
malaise | Oct 2021 | #1 | |
Ferrets are Cool | Oct 2021 | #8 | |
calimary | Oct 2021 | #14 | |
rurallib | Oct 2021 | #16 | |
MagickMuffin | Oct 2021 | #2 | |
dalton99a | Oct 2021 | #3 | |
Backseat Driver | Oct 2021 | #4 | |
Sneederbunk | Oct 2021 | #5 | |
MissMillie | Oct 2021 | #7 | |
Chin music | Oct 2021 | #11 | |
KS Toronado | Oct 2021 | #6 | |
dchill | Oct 2021 | #9 | |
progressoid | Oct 2021 | #10 | |
I_UndergroundPanther | Oct 2021 | #18 | |
OneCrazyDiamond | Oct 2021 | #12 | |
bucolic_frolic | Oct 2021 | #13 | |
LiberalFighter | Oct 2021 | #15 | |
pecosbob | Oct 2021 | #17 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:14 AM
malaise (254,629 posts)
1. A major reckoning is coming
Lots of folks will be heading for prison.
Take that to the bank |
Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:33 PM
Ferrets are Cool (19,418 posts)
8. I hope you are correct
I will believe it when I see it.
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Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:02 PM
calimary (74,912 posts)
14. Lordy Lordy I hope you're right.
But so many of these schmucks seem to be able to get away without facing ANY accountability.
When does THAT start changing? |
Response to malaise (Reply #1)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:06 PM
rurallib (60,509 posts)
16. I so hope you are right.
Are you pellucidly clear on that?
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:18 AM
MagickMuffin (14,363 posts)
2. "may expose him/her to potential safety risks." In a Heartbeat they would
Exposing those who seek justice is their mission to destroy them first. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:19 AM
dalton99a (74,395 posts)
3. Traitors and thieves should be treated as such.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:25 AM
Backseat Driver (3,448 posts)
4. Quotes about secrets...
Legal "justice" has it's own singular interpretation/language from the bench, when there are teams that share "discovery"?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/secrets Any pertinent to this ruling: Ben Franklin's? George Orwell's? |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 12:12 PM
Sneederbunk (12,434 posts)
5. Should any accused be left alone with the evidence?
Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #5)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:09 PM
MissMillie (37,175 posts)
7. that's what I was thinking
when it comes to evidence, chain of custody is paramount, no matter who the defendant is.
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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #5)
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:06 PM
KS Toronado (12,633 posts)
6. "foreign donations to his campaign,"
I'm betting Russia/Putin, hope he drags down Moscow Mitch with him & others.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:39 PM
dchill (34,959 posts)
9. "All I need to prove my innocence is five minutes alone...
... with the evidence. Oh - does anyone have a Bic?"
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:53 PM
progressoid (47,966 posts)
10. I hate to be a spelling Nazi, but it's "Fartenberry."
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Response to progressoid (Reply #10)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 10:24 PM
I_UndergroundPanther (11,649 posts)
18. *snort*
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:54 PM
OneCrazyDiamond (1,949 posts)
12. TFG Appointee. N/T
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:58 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,164 posts)
13. That's ok, I hear Matt Gaetz can't be left alone with ....
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:04 PM
LiberalFighter (45,598 posts)
15. Astounding that the judge needs to make that order.
But then again, I would think it should be a standard order.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:38 PM
pecosbob (6,928 posts)
17. Funny story...once a long time ago I got pulled over and the police officer found a roach in my car
My friend and I were made to wait on the sidewalk while he searched my car. Well, the cop found an old forgotten roach in a small bottle under my car seat. He set the evidence on the rear trunk lid of my 1967 Impala and he told us we were going to jail. He returned to continue searching my car and as soon as he put his head back inside my car, my friend stepped up to the car, grabbed the evidence and threw it into the lake across the road. I was dumbfounded that he had the cojones to do this.
That wasn't our first or last run-in with Officer Skinner, but that day we did not go to jail. |