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Can I get schools to ban Othello? (Original Post) tulipsandroses Oct 2021 OP
The play or the game? Nt Bantamfancier Oct 2021 #1
Didn't even know there was a game tulipsandroses Oct 2021 #4
Prolly. elleng Oct 2021 #2
Please forgive me. I know that I'm sometimes too much of a purist about the English language and.... EarnestPutz Oct 2021 #7
A language that doesn't evolve is a dead language EYESORE 9001 Oct 2021 #23
I've got to agree with Earnest. "Prolly" is English "devolving" rather than evolving. RussellCattle Oct 2021 #25
How darest thee? meadowlander Oct 2021 #26
How about Paradise Lost, required reading in AP HS class...nt wcmagumba Oct 2021 #3
Thanks for the detailed information. Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #5
Miscegenation Zorro Oct 2021 #6
What, then, would there be to complain about? EYESORE 9001 Oct 2021 #24
Makes me wonder wryter2000 Oct 2021 #8
Not Saying Ban... ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #9
The value of reading Shakespeare is to understand some of the origins Ocelot II Oct 2021 #10
We're Different ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #11
I'm weird, too. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #13
By yourself it may be difficult. taxi Oct 2021 #12
Thanks for all the responses. My apologies tulipsandroses Oct 2021 #14
But hasn't it been done? treestar Oct 2021 #19
Really. And how about Taming of the Shrew? ms liberty Oct 2021 #15
I mean... greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #16
Hard to say. Are you a loud-mouthed, annoying, entitled, white shithead? 11 Bravo Oct 2021 #17
A professor in Michigan got in trouble for showing the 1965 Laurence Olivier version ripcord Oct 2021 #18
Best get rid of Heart of Darkness by Conrad too. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #20
It's your civic duty to at least try!!11! panader0 Oct 2021 #21
Should we ban the Bible for the sake of the children? keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #22

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
7. Please forgive me. I know that I'm sometimes too much of a purist about the English language and....
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:59 PM
Oct 2021

....you may feel that this is one of those times. But please rethink your use of the word "prolly". It's use is growing and I really hate to think that it will eventually displace a perfectly good word in my favorite language. Thank you.

EYESORE 9001

(25,932 posts)
23. A language that doesn't evolve is a dead language
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:28 PM
Oct 2021

At one time I was overprotective and felt certain that the English language was going to hell in a handbasket. I shoulda known better.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
3. How about Paradise Lost, required reading in AP HS class...nt
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

true story (not Milton but the required reading part) "sarcasm thingy"...

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
8. Makes me wonder
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:04 PM
Oct 2021

Why it isn't already banned. Maybe the idjits aren't aware of it.

And you ought to go after the opera, too. Verdi's Otello.

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
9. Not Saying Ban...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:04 PM
Oct 2021

...but they can quit making kids in Jr Hi & HS read it.
I never understood the value of reading a play with 400 year old syntax.
See the play? Sure!
Read it? Not so much.
But, I'm sure someone could fund a way, with the right silly school board, to get nearly anything banned. At least for a while.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
10. The value of reading Shakespeare is to understand some of the origins
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:13 PM
Oct 2021

of the English language and to appreciate some magnificent poetry. I loved Shakespeare's plays so much when I was in high school that I read all of them voluntarily. I would hope that there are still a few kids who would do the same. I also loved Chaucer, but maybe because some of the Canterbury Tales are kind of dirty. I can still recite the prologue in middle English. The English language and its origins fascinate me, but maybe I'm weird.

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
11. We're Different
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:22 PM
Oct 2021

I've seen a few productions and enjoyed them.
I read a few plays and found it miserable reading.
I get your love of language evolution, and appreciate that. But, that sounds like an interest entered voluntarily (like you mostly did).
I dig etymology myself, but reading the plays? Nope.
Now some of his poetry is pretty pleasant reading, even though I'm not big into poetry. But, the plays? Not for me.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
12. By yourself it may be difficult.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:25 PM
Oct 2021

And depending on where you are, going to a school board meeting may be risky.
Good luck.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
14. Thanks for all the responses. My apologies
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:39 PM
Oct 2021

to those who have never read Othello, or watched the movie or play.
I am being sarcastic about banning Othello.
If parents want books banned because some books may upset white kids, then can black parents chime in about books to ban? Can I say the depiction of Othello in racist terms upsets black kids?
If we are banning Toni Morrison, because it’s vulgar. Can I ban Othello because it talks about sex? I remember discussing what making the beast with two backs means. Lots of silly laughter by high school kids ensued.

I’m not sure why these people think their kids are so delicate, that they need to be shielded.
From time to time, we would watch a movie that was first a book. We watched Bonfire of the Vanities. I swear It didn’t screw me up or traumatize me.

Let educators, educate.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. But hasn't it been done?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:06 PM
Oct 2021

I recall there were people wanting to ban Huckleberry Finn. Books have been discussed for banning for upsetting black kids, likely that came first and these people are retaliating.

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
15. Really. And how about Taming of the Shrew?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:44 PM
Oct 2021

I haven't tried to watch my favorite movie version (Liz and Dick, natch) lately but I'm worried it will look completely different to me, in the same way that McClintock and a dozen other old movies that I used to love look now.

ripcord

(5,352 posts)
18. A professor in Michigan got in trouble for showing the 1965 Laurence Olivier version
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:05 PM
Oct 2021

It was deemed offense because Olivier was in blackface.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
21. It's your civic duty to at least try!!11!
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:20 PM
Oct 2021

Do you have any idea what that smut is about? It's about a black ram tupping a white ewe!!
How did it evade the censors so long?! Burn it now!

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
22. Should we ban the Bible for the sake of the children?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:12 PM
Oct 2021

Should we ban the Bible for the sake of the children?

It has plenty of illicit sex and violence.

No white people from what I hear.

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