No mention of Biden's drop in the polls? Not even a

[Laura PourMeADrink]

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polls don't mean anything"?
Or
"that "pollster's a right winger" ???
Or
"don't be so obsessed with polls"
Or "
"what do you want Biden to fail? Polls go up and down"

We are in the right ( as always). Personally I'm hoping that once some legislation gets passed the polls will turn around?

What do we need to do?

[PoliticAverse]

1. Everybody can just follow along week by week...

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballotpedia%27s_Polling_Index:_Comparison_of_opinion_polling_during_the_Trump_and_Biden_administrations

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. Yes! But still, we ARE the Democratic Party! And this is

democraticunderground! Seems we should be talking about what's wrong and how we think we can make it better. Instead of just saying/thinking whatever. Or my personal "favorite"... " I trust them they know what they're doing."

Perhaps, just perhaps? We the people, we the Democrats, need to help figure out what the hell is going on. And, in one voice, be part of the solution??

[PoliticAverse]

3. Democrats need to not do stupid things, like have the IRS monitoring everyone's bank accounts...

And Democrats need to pass the voting rights act, without which keeping the House in 2022 will be much harder.

Then make good ads touting everything that was accomplished.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Holy shit. Just looked up Kamala's approvals

Agree with your action ideas. But what? Democrats are approving that the IRS monitor bank accounts? Huh?

I love my party! We sincerely need to figure out how to turn this around. For the sake of our country.

[BlackSkimmer]

11. You actually haven't heard about the IRS proposal?

It’s a really bad idea.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. actually, I hadn't :( Glad it was dropped. Lots of of these ideas over

the years fall on the backs of banks to have to add to staff to execute - along with
the other obvious reasons.

[Polybius]

15. Hate to say it, but that doesn't surprise me

Look at the Primary's in 2020. She didn't do well. She would have been a great Attorney General though.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. I know. I have often wondered how Biden interacts with her. Does he allow her

full rein? I remember she was put in charge of the border. Wonder if
she has staff to actually develop actions that can be measured and
publicized.

I know from being in the business world, that the most effective
people take a complex matter, study it, and simplify it into incremental
actions. I see this as needing improvement with our approach to
controlling covid too. Get on TV for 10 minutes at the very same time
every single day. Announce the top five states, the ones that improved,
the % of vaccinated. Keep it super simple. Create competion.

[JustAnotherGen]

19. Not what I heard knocking on doors yesterday

Including those of Republicans.

Keep your eyes on the HOUSE and SENATE approval polls.

That's what matters in 2022.

[Yoyoyo77]

17. What's the problem with the IRS monitoring transactions of 10,000$ + ?

[Celerity]

21. You know that is not what they are talking about.

[BlackSkimmer]

24. Thank you. nt

[Polybius]

27. It's $10,000 total in a year

That's way too low. Add another zero, if that.

[Decoy of Fenris]

34. It's 10k Total in a year. If it were a -very- good year, I'd make that panhandling on the street n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Scrapped

The exclusion of the provision, originally sought by some Democratic lawmakers as a way to identify people underreporting income on their taxes, marks a major victory for banks and credit unions that had vigorously opposed the provision.

[Hoyt]

9. Get it. Think anxiety is understandable.

[GoodRaisin]

36. It must be the working mothers who are receiving the childcare payments

each month that don’t approve of how Joe is doing his job. Or the non-working ones receiving it. Or their husbands? Or both? Or the people who got a $1400 check?

No?

I think yes. Half of eligible voters don’t bother. Probably half of those that do only vote in Presidential elections and couldn’t name even one of their state’s U.S. Senators. But they’ve seen a lying ad on TV about “Democrats trying to take away their guns” while watching their favorite reality TV shows. Or they want to be part of the neighborhood social scene where everyone is talking about “socialism” and how government needs to be “small”.

So do they know those $250, $300, $1400 payments are all coming from democrats? I doubt they even think about it. It’s just a money tree, as far as they know. Hell, I’ve seen polls where people think Republicans are giving it to them. But they all get the money, and they all like it. You’d think they would all want to vote for the source of their giving tree so it will keep on giving.

Figure out how to let them know who their giving tree is, and ISN’T, and it might impact the polling. And, get them off their asses to go pull the lever for the source of their money.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Sounds futile. It's like people aren't even curious. Surely

There are top notch PR firms on our side? WTH, hire them asap

[ismnotwasm]

4. Here.

An article

What the polls agree on about Biden's approval rating

Why are pollsters finding such different levels of uncertainty? A lot of it probably has to do with the way they're conducted. Polls conducted using telephone interviews -- including the Quinnipiac, Grinnell and Gallup polls, generally don't read off "not sure" as a possible response to their questions, but their interviewees will sometimes volunteer it, anyway. Some pollsters push harder than others to prompt wavering respondents to share which of the options they're leaning toward.
Among polls conducted online, as the other four surveys are, procedures can range from providing respondents with an explicit option to say they're uncertain to all but requiring them to answer a question before continuing the survey.
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Given that, one explanation is that these polls aren't telling contradictory stories so much as one, somewhat more nuanced one, along these lines: About one-eighth of the public doesn't hold particularly strong views about Biden, but if prompted, they're probably lukewarmly positive on balance.
There are two more points on which recent surveys generally agree. First, there's the overarching trends that have defined the Biden administration thus far. Most pollsters show Biden taking office with positive ratings and enjoying a brief honeymoon period, before seeing his net ratings drop late this summer and stabilize at a lower level this fall, leaving him with considerably less of a reservoir of goodwill than many of his predecessors held at this point. A number of state-level polls have also found Biden's ratings sliding from their initial levels, including in blue states like Maryland and New Jersey.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/29/politics/approval-rating-biden-polls/index.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. ????? So there are polls out there that have him

with an enormous approval rating?
Or, bottom line, don't believe the polls, they are all screwy and here's why?

[Septua]

6. Polls mean something...

..just not always the right thing...IMO. But the fact his approval is down some 10 points, for whatever reasons, isn't good, particularly if it affects the VA gov race. If everyone got up everyday and compared life with Biden to life with Trump, Joe's numbers would stay in the 90's.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. That's a good point! For so many of us, being rid of trump

is good enough for a good long while. But seems obvious that the honeymoon is over for lots of Dems.

Wow I would hate to be in his shoes right now. Who would have ever thought the current situation would have happened.

[Lawrence454]

10. Right about what exactly???

Are you looking for him to fail. Polls go up and down I don’t take much stock in polls anymore.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. Thanks! I'll add that " do you want Biden to fail" to

Typical answers!

[JI7]

12. Seems like a miserable way to live

to be that obsessed with polls every moment of one's life.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Oh thank you! Have to add "obsessed with polls"

[Metaphorical]

13. Legislation getting passed

I'm not worried at this point. Biden was going to face fairly harsh polls as the easy wins (mostly undoing the worst of the Trump EOs) gave way to getting legislation passed in a very closely divided Congress, and as investigations go dark as committees review evidence. I think that Covid fatigue is also making a difference, as we're passing into what is likely the last major likely bump of Covid before it starts receding in the spring, hopefully evolving into something that's no worse than a flu.

[Tomconroy]

14. I too think the delta surge has hurt. Maybe if it goes away

the polls will improve. The failure to pass the infrastructure bill has hurt too imho.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. I agree with that. Maybe there was an unrealistic belief

( Maybe even subconscious) that once Biden got in that he was so much smarter and kinder and more effective than FG that he could miraculously make it all disappear.

[Polybius]

16. If his poll numbers look like this in a year, we're doomed for November 2022

Right now, it's not so bad. The worst that could happen is that we lose Virginia. Bad, but not nearly as bad as losing the House and/or Senate.

[JustAnotherGen]

18. If Susan Soloway #SeditionSusanSoloway

Prevails in Hunterdon County NJ Tuesday - it won't be a bell weather for the rest of America.

It should be a wake up call that we can never be "understanding" of seditious bastards.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sarahmimms/jan-6-republicans-ballot-election-day

If NONE of our Democratic Party write-ins for school board are ALLOWED to be seated by the Hunterdon County Clerk - Mary Melfi who is Soloway's bestie - it will be even more proof that we can't *understand* Seditious Bastards.

I think if that racist asshole Republican wins in VA - the GOP will hand the midterms to the Democratic Party.

I also think if Terry McAuliffe prevails on Tuesday with less than a 10 point lead - the pundits will push voter election fraud.

[Celerity]

20. Please explain how a Youngkin win translates to

the GOP will hand the midterms to the Democratic Party.

And what pundits? Fuck Faux News, NewsMax, and OANN .

I also think if Terry McAuliffe prevails on Tuesday with less than a 10 point lead - the pundits will push voter election fraud.

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Gas Prices

No matter how many times it's said that policies of POTUS don't substantially affect gas prices (especially in the first 10 months), people see $3.75 at the pump and start grousing.
And, dem leaders are ignoring this dissatisfaction instead of trumpeting that gas prices were higher in 2017 & 2018 when Biden was a private citizen.
I told three guys at the golf course this. Their response was "No way!". I pulled out my phone and had a site bookmarked that shows average price by county since 1981.
Sure enough, gas prices were 13-20¢ higher for 13-16 weeks in those years than now. The response was a sheepish " I didn't remember prices that high.". I asked them if the prices then were TFG's fault. They surrendered.
But, people see gas prices as they drive every single day. This is compounded by the precipitous drop in gas prices 16-18 months ago.
All they see is twice as much and the whining begins.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Agree - for the average joe somewhat apolitical person - it affects their everyday disposable income

How much closer to home can you get. Except maybe tax relief.

[ProfessorGAC]

35. It Pushes Up Other Prices Too

If it costs more to transport tomatoes from California to us near Chicago, the consumer pays for it.
So, all prices creep up.
It's another reason why run of the mill economists are freaking over inflation. Standard inflation doesn't include energy costs, so they say "Fuel prices aren't driving this inflation." But, it is a factor in the cost of every day items going up, but since they ignore energy costs, they look for other reasons to explain it. There are other factors, but most ignore this one completely.

[madville]

41. Grocery Prices are hitting everyone

I know I'm paying 20% more since a year ago for the same stuff I always buy. If the Administration lets the COVID vaccine mandate apply to the trucking industry I expect that to double, there is a good reason many countries have exempted truck drivers from their vaccine mandates.

[Kingofalldems]

28. Interesting post.

[Lawrence454]

33. Yes I agree it seems weird he made this post to bash Biden

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. ????

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Now I see. Bah-bye!

[shrike3]

32. Things can change.

I remember when everyone was saying Trump would be tough to beat. Then Covid hit.

A few months can be a lifetime in politics. We'll see.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Yes! That's the spirit we need! ;)

[shrike3]

43. Whatever.

I don't know what you were trying to accomplish. What do you expect a bunch of people on an internet forum to do?

Besides, where have you been? There've been doom and gloom posts all over the place. Every day.

You're probably be better off contacting people who could actually do something about the current situation. Your congressman, your senator, whatever.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. You're right