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babylonsister

(171,274 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:27 AM Oct 2021

Biden Adm Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border

Fodder for the rw. That's some sum; who thinks this is a good idea?

Breaking|Oct 28, 2021,05:18pm EDT|139,137 views
Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border
Anna Kaplan
Forbes Staff


The Biden administration is reportedly considering making payments of approximately $450,000 to each person separated from their family at the southern border, the Wall Street Journal reports, showing signs of a potential settlement for several lawsuits that claim the U.S. government’s policies left them with lasting psychological effects.

The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are in talks to offer each person who had been separated $450,000, the Journal reports, citing multiple sources close to the discussions.

The offer comes to nearly $1 million per family, as most families who crossed the border included one parent and one child, though the Journal reports the official number could change.

It is unclear how many people will be eligible for the settlement, but about 940 families have reportedly filed claims.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2021/10/28/biden-administration-reportedly-considering-450000-payments-to-families-separated-at-southern-border/
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For example:

America last: Biden goes full Oprah, considers $450K payments to illegal migrants separated at border

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/579245-america-last-biden-goes-full-oprah-considers-450k-payments-to-illegal
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Biden Adm Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2021 OP
Good. Some of them will never be reunited. Others have been reunited with children who Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #1
This has ready got all the wingers on my NextDoor app all riled up. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #2
Yep. The comment I woke up babylonsister Oct 2021 #4
Pretty much same here. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #27
There is a slew of memes comparing this to the plight of homeless veterans Norbert Oct 2021 #6
The right is good using fear and hate. CRT and 450k payments will be used on every Reich show. sarcasmo Oct 2021 #23
Private settlements on a case by case basis would be better Amishman Oct 2021 #3
It's incredibly bad bad bad optics. harumph Oct 2021 #16
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #33
I agree TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #41
That will give the Republicans their winning campaign issue for 2022. Not saying doc03 Oct 2021 #5
Yes it will. harumph Oct 2021 #17
Works for me. More would be better. They went through hell. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #7
Maybe so but a half million is ridiculous jimfields33 Oct 2021 #9
I hope this isn't actually true... dixiechiken1 Oct 2021 #8
I agree rockfordfile Oct 2021 #25
Just think of these payments as 'reparations'. 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #10
what about reparations for slavery then? harumph Oct 2021 #18
Reparations for slavery would have been great 120 years ago. 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #31
Ridiculous n/t Devil Child Oct 2021 #11
This can't possibly be true msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #12
Settlement consideration to aclu lawsuit Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #24
So actually not directly to each case of separation? msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #29
Gonna be nice... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2021 #13
I was abducted from my family and held for doc03 Oct 2021 #14
Another way to lose the next elections! Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #15
All they will hear is "Biden gives $450,000 to each illegal immigrant" dalton99a Oct 2021 #19
Yes. That simple line will be blasted nonstop, true or not. Celerity Nov 2021 #39
This is an incredibly bad idea politically. Tony_FLADEM Oct 2021 #20
This is a disaster for us politically pinkstarburst Oct 2021 #21
+1. It will be a bloodbath at the polls for Democrats dalton99a Oct 2021 #28
because making a damaged family barely financially whole Kali Nov 2021 #40
Even if it wipes out Democrats in 2022.... TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #42
The hits just keep on coming... WarGamer Oct 2021 #22
We really are our on worst enemies Polybius Oct 2021 #26
This is the right thing to do LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #30
Not a good idea. Civil awards for the heinous Trump policy and irresponsible handling GoodRaisin Oct 2021 #32
We seem to be masters at shooting ourselves in the foot. smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #34
Might be right morally, but it's suicidal politically. marmar Oct 2021 #35
This seems to be coming from the Wall Shit Journal. rgbecker Oct 2021 #36
Kind of weird making them better off then most Americans? Brainfodder Oct 2021 #37
UGH what a total totally RIDICULOUS idea Raine Nov 2021 #38

Scrivener7

(51,413 posts)
1. Good. Some of them will never be reunited. Others have been reunited with children who
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:35 AM
Oct 2021

are permanently scarred. It is the least we can do. Tax some asshole's thirtieth mcmansion to pay for it.

Norbert

(6,153 posts)
6. There is a slew of memes comparing this to the plight of homeless veterans
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM
Oct 2021

These people act fast. We need to be careful. These MAGA clowns plan on taking their fear and hate messages to the midterms.

Amishman

(5,640 posts)
3. Private settlements on a case by case basis would be better
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:54 AM
Oct 2021

This does not help the current political headwinds

doc03

(35,897 posts)
5. That will give the Republicans their winning campaign issue for 2022. Not saying
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM
Oct 2021

I will vote for a Republican but I certainly don't agree with it myself. That would be like making them a
lottery winner in Mexico. What would $450000 be equivalent to in Mexico? In this country it would put you in
the top 10% at least. I think separating them from their families was wrong. But they were not invited
here, they put themselves and their family at risk themselves. This will only encourage more
problems at the border.

jimfields33

(17,231 posts)
9. Maybe so but a half million is ridiculous
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:19 AM
Oct 2021

We have homeless all over who are in hell and they are not getting a half million.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
8. I hope this isn't actually true...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:05 AM
Oct 2021

We shouldn't be writing the midterm attack ads for the right wing, asshats ourselves. C'mon, man...

70sEraVet

(3,725 posts)
10. Just think of these payments as 'reparations'.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:38 AM
Oct 2021

We've paid reparations to Japanese Americans who were rounded up and put in concentration camps. Reparations are cleansing, helping to wipe away an evil stain on the national conscience.
It is the price we have to pay for allowing an avowed racist to take power and brutalized a helpless people.
We will be paying the price for Trump for years to come.

70sEraVet

(3,725 posts)
31. Reparations for slavery would have been great 120 years ago.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

But after this many generations, its just not feasible. Reparations for Jim Crow laws - I'd be in support of that.

msfiddlestix

(7,357 posts)
29. So actually not directly to each case of separation?
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:17 PM
Oct 2021

it'll be divided equally among the affected families in other words?

13. Gonna be nice...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:52 AM
Oct 2021

...to see yet another group who's received reparations who'll say they can't understand why African Americans can't seem to pull themselves up financially. SMH.

doc03

(35,897 posts)
14. I was abducted from my family and held for
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

2 years against my will, my family wasn't compensated one penny.

Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
20. This is an incredibly bad idea politically.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021

I hope it's only under consideration and this isn't acted upon.


They should pay for mental health counseling if any of the abducted children need it. That should be the extent of it.

pinkstarburst

(1,346 posts)
21. This is a disaster for us politically
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:10 PM
Oct 2021

$450,000 to illegal migrants (I heard it could be $900,000 per family in another article in the WSJ) is a disaster for us politically. It will hand elections in 2022 and 2024 over to the republicans.

So many people in this country are hurting right now. Grocery, gas and heating prices are soaring.

Many young people ages 20-35 are being crushed by student debt, and are facing the reality that with housing costs soaring, they cannot afford to buy a house. Some wish to start families, but cannot afford that either because of the cost of childcare+student debt+housing. $900,000 would buy a house in nearly any city in the country.

How do we think this will play with that demographic when illegal migrants receive $900,000, while the current administration has made no headway on issues that matter to them? Yikes.

Prescription medication prices are out of control. People are having to skip insulin doses. I know I have to pay over $600 per month for one medication when insurance won't cover it. Seniors on social security are expected to scrape by on $1500 per month. They're being told they aren't going to get dental or hearing aid coverage. Disabled people are expected to survive on $770 per month.

How do you think all those voters will react to hearing they have to skip their insulin doses, and survive on $770 per month, but Biden wants to give illegal migrants $900,000?

Someone upthread mentioned reparations. How do we think this will play with Black voters who keep getting told "there's no support for reparations for you" but hey, here's $900,000 per family for illegal migrants? Black voters saved Biden in the primaries and the general.

This is a disaster for us politically.

Kali

(55,249 posts)
40. because making a damaged family barely financially whole
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:32 AM
Nov 2021

after forcible taking their children away for NO reason is less important than election messaging. fuck this place, sometimes.

TheRealNorth

(9,617 posts)
42. Even if it wipes out Democrats in 2022....
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:50 PM
Nov 2021

And leads to even worse shit down the road? I am not willing to risk our Democracy for giving people that came here illegally half a million dollars, even if they do deserve some form of compensation for the shit Trump did.

WarGamer

(13,362 posts)
22. The hits just keep on coming...
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:21 PM
Oct 2021

So $450k to illegal immigrants and 99% of Americans fall under IRS scrutiny.

BRILLIANT.

Doesn't matter if these things never become law, they will be featured in '22 campaign ads.

GoodRaisin

(9,113 posts)
32. Not a good idea. Civil awards for the heinous Trump policy and irresponsible handling
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:34 PM
Oct 2021

that allowed it to happen would be better.

This will be spun by Republicans at the top of their lungs as “Biden giving illegals money”. I think the families should be compensated, but let’s not take the blame in place of Trump.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. We seem to be masters at shooting ourselves in the foot.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:13 PM
Oct 2021

This is not the way to deal with this issue. If this happens, we lose. And we will deserve it.

rgbecker

(4,852 posts)
36. This seems to be coming from the Wall Shit Journal.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:48 PM
Oct 2021

No names, no quotes from anybody in the talks. Nothing from Biden. Just more RW crap to rile the base.

" citing multiple sources close to the discussions." LOL.

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