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Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:27 AM

Biden Adm Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border

Fodder for the rw. That's some sum; who thinks this is a good idea?

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Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border
Anna Kaplan
Forbes Staff


The Biden administration is reportedly considering making payments of approximately $450,000 to each person separated from their family at the southern border, the Wall Street Journal reports, showing signs of a potential settlement for several lawsuits that claim the U.S. government’s policies left them with lasting psychological effects.

The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are in talks to offer each person who had been separated $450,000, the Journal reports, citing multiple sources close to the discussions.

The offer comes to nearly $1 million per family, as most families who crossed the border included one parent and one child, though the Journal reports the official number could change.

It is unclear how many people will be eligible for the settlement, but about 940 families have reportedly filed claims.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2021/10/28/biden-administration-reportedly-considering-450000-payments-to-families-separated-at-southern-border/
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America last: Biden goes full Oprah, considers $450K payments to illegal migrants separated at border

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/579245-america-last-biden-goes-full-oprah-considers-450k-payments-to-illegal

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Reply Biden Adm Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border (Original post)
babylonsister Oct 2021 OP
Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #1
BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #2
babylonsister Oct 2021 #4
BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #27
Norbert Oct 2021 #6
sarcasmo Oct 2021 #23
Amishman Oct 2021 #3
harumph Oct 2021 #16
smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #33
TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #41
doc03 Oct 2021 #5
harumph Oct 2021 #17
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #7
jimfields33 Oct 2021 #9
dixiechiken1 Oct 2021 #8
rockfordfile Oct 2021 #25
70sEraVet Oct 2021 #10
harumph Oct 2021 #18
70sEraVet Oct 2021 #31
Devil Child Oct 2021 #11
msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #12
Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #24
msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #29
UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2021 #13
doc03 Oct 2021 #14
USALiberal Oct 2021 #15
dalton99a Oct 2021 #19
Celerity Nov 2021 #39
Tony_FLADEM Oct 2021 #20
pinkstarburst Oct 2021 #21
dalton99a Oct 2021 #28
Kali Nov 2021 #40
TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #42
WarGamer Oct 2021 #22
Polybius Oct 2021 #26
LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #30
GoodRaisin Oct 2021 #32
smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #34
marmar Oct 2021 #35
rgbecker Oct 2021 #36
Brainfodder Oct 2021 #37
Raine Nov 2021 #38

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:35 AM

1. Good. Some of them will never be reunited. Others have been reunited with children who

are permanently scarred. It is the least we can do. Tax some asshole's thirtieth mcmansion to pay for it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:45 AM

2. This has ready got all the wingers on my NextDoor app all riled up.

I didn’t think it was for real.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:54 AM

4. Yep. The comment I woke up

to was something about moving to MX so we can cross the border and collect.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:35 PM

27. Pretty much same here.

The crazy never stops.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM

6. There is a slew of memes comparing this to the plight of homeless veterans

These people act fast. We need to be careful. These MAGA clowns plan on taking their fear and hate messages to the midterms.

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Response to Norbert (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:23 PM

23. The right is good using fear and hate. CRT and 450k payments will be used on every Reich show.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:54 AM

3. Private settlements on a case by case basis would be better

This does not help the current political headwinds

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Response to Amishman (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:32 AM

16. It's incredibly bad bad bad optics.

Private settlements was the way to go.

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Response to harumph (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:11 PM

33. +1000

 

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Response to Amishman (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:46 PM

41. I agree

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM

5. That will give the Republicans their winning campaign issue for 2022. Not saying

I will vote for a Republican but I certainly don't agree with it myself. That would be like making them a
lottery winner in Mexico. What would $450000 be equivalent to in Mexico? In this country it would put you in
the top 10% at least. I think separating them from their families was wrong. But they were not invited
here, they put themselves and their family at risk themselves. This will only encourage more
problems at the border.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:33 AM

17. Yes it will.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:00 AM

7. Works for me. More would be better. They went through hell.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:19 AM

9. Maybe so but a half million is ridiculous

We have homeless all over who are in hell and they are not getting a half million.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:05 AM

8. I hope this isn't actually true...

We shouldn't be writing the midterm attack ads for the right wing, asshats ourselves. C'mon, man...

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:19 PM

25. I agree

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:38 AM

10. Just think of these payments as 'reparations'.

We've paid reparations to Japanese Americans who were rounded up and put in concentration camps. Reparations are cleansing, helping to wipe away an evil stain on the national conscience.
It is the price we have to pay for allowing an avowed racist to take power and brutalized a helpless people.
We will be paying the price for Trump for years to come.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:34 AM

18. what about reparations for slavery then?

This is an unneeded can of worms.

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Response to harumph (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:07 PM

31. Reparations for slavery would have been great 120 years ago.

But after this many generations, its just not feasible. Reparations for Jim Crow laws - I'd be in support of that.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:43 AM

11. Ridiculous n/t

 

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:46 AM

12. This can't possibly be true

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:35 PM

24. Settlement consideration to aclu lawsuit

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:17 PM

29. So actually not directly to each case of separation?

it'll be divided equally among the affected families in other words?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:52 AM

13. Gonna be nice...

...to see yet another group who's received reparations who'll say they can't understand why African Americans can't seem to pull themselves up financially. SMH.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:16 AM

14. I was abducted from my family and held for

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2 years against my will, my family wasn't compensated one penny.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:27 AM

15. Another way to lose the next elections! Nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:40 AM

19. All they will hear is "Biden gives $450,000 to each illegal immigrant"


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:02 AM

39. Yes. That simple line will be blasted nonstop, true or not.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:19 AM

20. This is an incredibly bad idea politically.

I hope it's only under consideration and this isn't acted upon.


They should pay for mental health counseling if any of the abducted children need it. That should be the extent of it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:10 PM

21. This is a disaster for us politically

$450,000 to illegal migrants (I heard it could be $900,000 per family in another article in the WSJ) is a disaster for us politically. It will hand elections in 2022 and 2024 over to the republicans.

So many people in this country are hurting right now. Grocery, gas and heating prices are soaring.

Many young people ages 20-35 are being crushed by student debt, and are facing the reality that with housing costs soaring, they cannot afford to buy a house. Some wish to start families, but cannot afford that either because of the cost of childcare+student debt+housing. $900,000 would buy a house in nearly any city in the country.

How do we think this will play with that demographic when illegal migrants receive $900,000, while the current administration has made no headway on issues that matter to them? Yikes.

Prescription medication prices are out of control. People are having to skip insulin doses. I know I have to pay over $600 per month for one medication when insurance won't cover it. Seniors on social security are expected to scrape by on $1500 per month. They're being told they aren't going to get dental or hearing aid coverage. Disabled people are expected to survive on $770 per month.

How do you think all those voters will react to hearing they have to skip their insulin doses, and survive on $770 per month, but Biden wants to give illegal migrants $900,000?

Someone upthread mentioned reparations. How do we think this will play with Black voters who keep getting told "there's no support for reparations for you" but hey, here's $900,000 per family for illegal migrants? Black voters saved Biden in the primaries and the general.

This is a disaster for us politically.

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:39 PM

28. +1. It will be a bloodbath at the polls for Democrats

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:32 AM

40. because making a damaged family barely financially whole

after forcible taking their children away for NO reason is less important than election messaging. fuck this place, sometimes.

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Response to Kali (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:50 PM

42. Even if it wipes out Democrats in 2022....

And leads to even worse shit down the road? I am not willing to risk our Democracy for giving people that came here illegally half a million dollars, even if they do deserve some form of compensation for the shit Trump did.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:21 PM

22. The hits just keep on coming...

So $450k to illegal immigrants and 99% of Americans fall under IRS scrutiny.

BRILLIANT.

Doesn't matter if these things never become law, they will be featured in '22 campaign ads.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:21 PM

26. We really are our on worst enemies

This is a horrendous idea.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:09 PM

30. This is the right thing to do

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:34 PM

32. Not a good idea. Civil awards for the heinous Trump policy and irresponsible handling

that allowed it to happen would be better.

This will be spun by Republicans at the top of their lungs as “Biden giving illegals money”. I think the families should be compensated, but let’s not take the blame in place of Trump.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:13 PM

34. We seem to be masters at shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

This is not the way to deal with this issue. If this happens, we lose. And we will deserve it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:13 PM

35. Might be right morally, but it's suicidal politically.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:48 PM

36. This seems to be coming from the Wall Shit Journal.

No names, no quotes from anybody in the talks. Nothing from Biden. Just more RW crap to rile the base.

" citing multiple sources close to the discussions." LOL.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:52 PM

37. Kind of weird making them better off then most Americans?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:20 AM

38. UGH what a total totally RIDICULOUS idea

that's going to go over well with voters!

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