Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:27 AM
babylonsister (170,217 posts)
Biden Adm Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border
Fodder for the rw. That's some sum; who thinks this is a good idea?
Breaking|Oct 28, 2021,05:18pm EDT|139,137 views Biden Administration Reportedly Considering $450,000 Payments To Families Separated At Southern Border Anna Kaplan Forbes Staff The Biden administration is reportedly considering making payments of approximately $450,000 to each person separated from their family at the southern border, the Wall Street Journal reports, showing signs of a potential settlement for several lawsuits that claim the U.S. government’s policies left them with lasting psychological effects. The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are in talks to offer each person who had been separated $450,000, the Journal reports, citing multiple sources close to the discussions. The offer comes to nearly $1 million per family, as most families who crossed the border included one parent and one child, though the Journal reports the official number could change. It is unclear how many people will be eligible for the settlement, but about 940 families have reportedly filed claims. more... https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2021/10/28/biden-administration-reportedly-considering-450000-payments-to-families-separated-at-southern-border/ *********************** For example: America last: Biden goes full Oprah, considers $450K payments to illegal migrants separated at border https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/579245-america-last-biden-goes-full-oprah-considers-450k-payments-to-illegal
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babylonsister | Oct 2021 | OP |
Scrivener7 | Oct 2021 | #1 | |
BlackSkimmer | Oct 2021 | #2 | |
babylonsister | Oct 2021 | #4 | |
BlackSkimmer | Oct 2021 | #27 | |
Norbert | Oct 2021 | #6 | |
sarcasmo | Oct 2021 | #23 | |
Amishman | Oct 2021 | #3 | |
harumph | Oct 2021 | #16 | |
smirkymonkey | Oct 2021 | #33 | |
TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #41 | |
doc03 | Oct 2021 | #5 | |
harumph | Oct 2021 | #17 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Oct 2021 | #7 | |
jimfields33 | Oct 2021 | #9 | |
dixiechiken1 | Oct 2021 | #8 | |
rockfordfile | Oct 2021 | #25 | |
70sEraVet | Oct 2021 | #10 | |
harumph | Oct 2021 | #18 | |
70sEraVet | Oct 2021 | #31 | |
Devil Child | Oct 2021 | #11 | |
msfiddlestix | Oct 2021 | #12 | |
Demovictory9 | Oct 2021 | #24 | |
msfiddlestix | Oct 2021 | #29 | |
UncleTomsEvilBrother | Oct 2021 | #13 | |
doc03 | Oct 2021 | #14 | |
USALiberal | Oct 2021 | #15 | |
dalton99a | Oct 2021 | #19 | |
Celerity | Nov 2021 | #39 | |
Tony_FLADEM | Oct 2021 | #20 | |
pinkstarburst | Oct 2021 | #21 | |
dalton99a | Oct 2021 | #28 | |
Kali | Nov 2021 | #40 | |
TheRealNorth | Nov 2021 | #42 | |
WarGamer | Oct 2021 | #22 | |
Polybius | Oct 2021 | #26 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | Oct 2021 | #30 | |
GoodRaisin | Oct 2021 | #32 | |
smirkymonkey | Oct 2021 | #34 | |
marmar | Oct 2021 | #35 | |
rgbecker | Oct 2021 | #36 | |
Brainfodder | Oct 2021 | #37 | |
Raine | Nov 2021 | #38 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:35 AM
Scrivener7 (47,355 posts)
1. Good. Some of them will never be reunited. Others have been reunited with children who
are permanently scarred. It is the least we can do. Tax some asshole's thirtieth mcmansion to pay for it.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:45 AM
BlackSkimmer (49,101 posts)
2. This has ready got all the wingers on my NextDoor app all riled up.
I didn’t think it was for real.
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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:54 AM
babylonsister (170,217 posts)
4. Yep. The comment I woke up
to was something about moving to MX so we can cross the border and collect.
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Response to babylonsister (Reply #4)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:35 PM
BlackSkimmer (49,101 posts)
27. Pretty much same here.
The crazy never stops.
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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM
Norbert (5,575 posts)
6. There is a slew of memes comparing this to the plight of homeless veterans
These people act fast. We need to be careful. These MAGA clowns plan on taking their fear and hate messages to the midterms.
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Response to Norbert (Reply #6)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:23 PM
sarcasmo (22,959 posts)
23. The right is good using fear and hate. CRT and 450k payments will be used on every Reich show.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:54 AM
Amishman (5,322 posts)
3. Private settlements on a case by case basis would be better
This does not help the current political headwinds
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Response to Amishman (Reply #3)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:32 AM
harumph (1,512 posts)
16. It's incredibly bad bad bad optics.
Private settlements was the way to go.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:57 AM
doc03 (33,008 posts)
5. That will give the Republicans their winning campaign issue for 2022. Not saying
I will vote for a Republican but I certainly don't agree with it myself. That would be like making them a
lottery winner in Mexico. What would $450000 be equivalent to in Mexico? In this country it would put you in the top 10% at least. I think separating them from their families was wrong. But they were not invited here, they put themselves and their family at risk themselves. This will only encourage more problems at the border. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:00 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (19,562 posts)
7. Works for me. More would be better. They went through hell.
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #7)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:19 AM
jimfields33 (12,454 posts)
9. Maybe so but a half million is ridiculous
We have homeless all over who are in hell and they are not getting a half million.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:05 AM
dixiechiken1 (2,113 posts)
8. I hope this isn't actually true...
We shouldn't be writing the midterm attack ads for the right wing, asshats ourselves. C'mon, man...
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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #8)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:19 PM
rockfordfile (8,584 posts)
25. I agree
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:38 AM
70sEraVet (2,335 posts)
10. Just think of these payments as 'reparations'.
We've paid reparations to Japanese Americans who were rounded up and put in concentration camps. Reparations are cleansing, helping to wipe away an evil stain on the national conscience.
It is the price we have to pay for allowing an avowed racist to take power and brutalized a helpless people. We will be paying the price for Trump for years to come. |
Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #10)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:34 AM
harumph (1,512 posts)
18. what about reparations for slavery then?
This is an unneeded can of worms.
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Response to harumph (Reply #18)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:07 PM
70sEraVet (2,335 posts)
31. Reparations for slavery would have been great 120 years ago.
But after this many generations, its just not feasible. Reparations for Jim Crow laws - I'd be in support of that.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:43 AM
Devil Child (2,728 posts)
11. Ridiculous n/t
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:46 AM
msfiddlestix (6,298 posts)
12. This can't possibly be true
Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #12)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:35 PM
Demovictory9 (29,873 posts)
24. Settlement consideration to aclu lawsuit
Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #24)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 02:17 PM
msfiddlestix (6,298 posts)
29. So actually not directly to each case of separation?
it'll be divided equally among the affected families in other words?
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:52 AM
UncleTomsEvilBrother (927 posts)
13. Gonna be nice...
...to see yet another group who's received reparations who'll say they can't understand why African Americans can't seem to pull themselves up financially. SMH.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:16 AM
doc03 (33,008 posts)
14. I was abducted from my family and held for
Last edited Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1) 2 years against my will, my family wasn't compensated one penny.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:27 AM
USALiberal (10,838 posts)
15. Another way to lose the next elections! Nt
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:40 AM
dalton99a (74,386 posts)
19. All they will hear is "Biden gives $450,000 to each illegal immigrant"
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Response to dalton99a (Reply #19)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:02 AM
Celerity (35,580 posts)
39. Yes. That simple line will be blasted nonstop, true or not.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:19 AM
Tony_FLADEM (3,022 posts)
20. This is an incredibly bad idea politically.
I hope it's only under consideration and this isn't acted upon.
They should pay for mental health counseling if any of the abducted children need it. That should be the extent of it. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:10 PM
pinkstarburst (896 posts)
21. This is a disaster for us politically
$450,000 to illegal migrants (I heard it could be $900,000 per family in another article in the WSJ) is a disaster for us politically. It will hand elections in 2022 and 2024 over to the republicans.
So many people in this country are hurting right now. Grocery, gas and heating prices are soaring. Many young people ages 20-35 are being crushed by student debt, and are facing the reality that with housing costs soaring, they cannot afford to buy a house. Some wish to start families, but cannot afford that either because of the cost of childcare+student debt+housing. $900,000 would buy a house in nearly any city in the country. How do we think this will play with that demographic when illegal migrants receive $900,000, while the current administration has made no headway on issues that matter to them? Yikes. Prescription medication prices are out of control. People are having to skip insulin doses. I know I have to pay over $600 per month for one medication when insurance won't cover it. Seniors on social security are expected to scrape by on $1500 per month. They're being told they aren't going to get dental or hearing aid coverage. Disabled people are expected to survive on $770 per month. How do you think all those voters will react to hearing they have to skip their insulin doses, and survive on $770 per month, but Biden wants to give illegal migrants $900,000? Someone upthread mentioned reparations. How do we think this will play with Black voters who keep getting told "there's no support for reparations for you" but hey, here's $900,000 per family for illegal migrants? Black voters saved Biden in the primaries and the general. This is a disaster for us politically. |
Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #21)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:39 PM
dalton99a (74,386 posts)
28. +1. It will be a bloodbath at the polls for Democrats
Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 06:32 AM
Kali (54,136 posts)
40. because making a damaged family barely financially whole
after forcible taking their children away for NO reason is less important than election messaging. fuck this place, sometimes.
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Response to Kali (Reply #40)
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 09:50 PM
TheRealNorth (8,108 posts)
42. Even if it wipes out Democrats in 2022....
And leads to even worse shit down the road? I am not willing to risk our Democracy for giving people that came here illegally half a million dollars, even if they do deserve some form of compensation for the shit Trump did.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:21 PM
WarGamer (8,276 posts)
22. The hits just keep on coming...
So $450k to illegal immigrants and 99% of Americans fall under IRS scrutiny.
BRILLIANT. Doesn't matter if these things never become law, they will be featured in '22 campaign ads. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 01:21 PM
Polybius (12,370 posts)
26. We really are our on worst enemies
This is a horrendous idea.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 03:09 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (126,765 posts)
30. This is the right thing to do
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:34 PM
GoodRaisin (7,982 posts)
32. Not a good idea. Civil awards for the heinous Trump policy and irresponsible handling
that allowed it to happen would be better.
This will be spun by Republicans at the top of their lungs as “Biden giving illegals money”. I think the families should be compensated, but let’s not take the blame in place of Trump. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:13 PM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
34. We seem to be masters at shooting ourselves in the foot.
This is not the way to deal with this issue. If this happens, we lose. And we will deserve it.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:13 PM
marmar (75,488 posts)
35. Might be right morally, but it's suicidal politically.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:48 PM
rgbecker (4,760 posts)
36. This seems to be coming from the Wall Shit Journal.
No names, no quotes from anybody in the talks. Nothing from Biden. Just more RW crap to rile the base.
" citing multiple sources close to the discussions." LOL. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 09:52 PM
Brainfodder (5,456 posts)
37. Kind of weird making them better off then most Americans?
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:20 AM
Raine (29,479 posts)
38. UGH what a total totally RIDICULOUS idea
that's going to go over well with voters!
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