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Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:38 PM

New Republican talking point being floated....

So my Mom was watching one of the Sunday morning talk shows this AM and she said that one of the Republican hit men was saying Democrats were giving away $400,000 to families that were separated as a result of Trump. Wasn't sure where this was coming from. Is this complete B.S? Did one family get this as part of a legal settlement?

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Reply New Republican talking point being floated.... (Original post)
TheRealNorth Oct 31 OP
alwaysinasnit Oct 31 #1
Celerity Oct 31 #2
FreeState Oct 31 #6
alwaysinasnit Oct 31 #9
canetoad Nov 1 #15
andym Oct 31 #3
live love laugh Oct 31 #4
Tomconroy Oct 31 #5
Historic NY Oct 31 #7
MichMan Oct 31 #8
GoodRaisin Oct 31 #10
rownesheck Oct 31 #11
GoodRaisin Oct 31 #12
uponit7771 Nov 1 #14
GoodRaisin Nov 2 #18
MichMan Nov 1 #13
TheRealNorth Nov 2 #16
highplainsdem Nov 2 #17


Response to alwaysinasnit (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:49 PM

2. one person with knowledge of the negotiations said payouts could total $450,000 per person, with

some families potentially receiving $1 million


That would likely be a major coffin nail that could destroy us politically in 2022 and 2024, and thus dramatically speed up the rapid descent of the nation into a hybrid white nationalist/christofascist hellscape and/or kick off the attempted dissolution of the union of the states.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:01 PM

6. If a government separated my family for no reason

I’d be asking for a lot more than that.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:15 PM

9. Well, we could always say that Biden's administration is being responsible by cleaning up

TFG's clusterf*ck mess.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:51 AM

15. $450,000 and citizenship?

That would be fair.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:54 PM

3. Families separated by Trump should be given compensation, but this story plays right into GOP hands

Probably the US should not do this settlement, but rather wait for a court order-- that will allow justice to be served and minimize political damage.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:58 PM

4. It seems they're not "giving away" anything:"Defendants destroyed families to inflict severe pain.."

on Central American immigrants, hoping that this would cause them to abandon their asylum cases and deter other Central Americans from seeking asylum or other immigration relief in the United States,” the lawsuit said.


I think they’re being sued due to violations of the law.

People close to the settlement agreement say that $450,000 may end up being roughly the average compensation, but that the number will vary. Some parents may not receive any compensation at all, depending on any criminal charges against them. Others still have not filed tort claims.



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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:01 PM

5. The Trump administration engaged in a blatantly illegal

scheme that amounted to the state sanctioned kidnapping of children. The payments are being discussed as a settlement of a class action suit. Not surprising.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:13 PM

7. Lets arrest and convict those responsible and then talk about settlements, civl settlements.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:15 PM

10. Unfortunately this will be a Republican talking point which will be spun as

"Joe Biden gave a thousand illegals $450,000 each."

There will be no mention of Trump when they tell this story on Fox, Newsmax and OAN. It will just be "socialist president gives away money to illegals". It will be repeated over and over and all the stupids will believe it.

It would be better for each lawsuit to be settled separately with Trump's policy and incompetent handling of the family separations with the rightful blame for this disaster.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:24 PM

11. People who watch fox,

newsmax or oan don't vote for democrats, so it doesn't matter what they think. Those networks could say "Joe Biden is now a toothless, lizard brain racist just like you!" and they still wouldn't vote for him.

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Response to rownesheck (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:25 PM

12. Then those people go out in their communities and

talk.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:28 AM

14. ... to other people who wont vote democratic. They're a cult with few crossover votes, we should

... have stopped tryin to win them over seeing a decade ago it was new voters for Obama that won the day.

Its base first swing voters 3rd or 4th

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 10:30 PM

18. Not suggesting we try to win over the cultists. But their lies hurt us in elections.

They take the lies to other voters we need. Tonight we lost former democratic voters to the CRT lie in Virginia.

Base wins, yes, but margins are thin. How we frame things matters.

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Response to rownesheck (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 01:10 AM

13. It's been posted on MSN, WSJ, and Washington Post among others

Not just Fox, Newsmax or OAN.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 08:43 PM

16. +1

"It would be better for each lawsuit to be settled separately with Trump's policy and incompetent handling of the family separations with the rightful blame for this disaster."


Sadly, I think this is the politically smart move.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Original post)

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 08:47 PM

17. All over RW radio for days now.

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