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Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:03 PM

Willard ain't got a Soul

Podium rocks in the crowded waves.
The speaker talks of the beautiful saves
That went down long before he played this role
For the hotel queens and the magazines,
Test tube genes and slot machines

Where even Richard Nixon has got soul.
Even Richard Nixon has got it, soul.

Hospitals have made him cry,
But there`s always a free way in his eye,
Though his beach just got too crowded for his stroll.
Roads stretch out like healthy veins,
And wild gift horses strain the reins,

Where even Richard Nixon has got soul.
Even Richard Nixon has got soul.

I am a lonely visitor.
I came to late to cause a stir,
Though I campaigned all my life towards that goal.
-- Neal Young; Campaigner


Tonight’s debate between President Obama and Willard Romney can be regarded as the “rubber match,” to decide the one-to-one split thus far. Although Romney lied virtually every time he spoke in Debate #1, he was given credit for a “victory.” Barack Obama then thrashed Willard in the next contest. Because tonight’s debate is supposed to focus on “foreign policy” -- and Romney’s “experience” is limited to friendly financial dealings with the most brutal, vicious of El Salvador’s “leaders,” sending US jobs to foreign lands, and investing his profits off-shore -- we can expect him to actually lie even more tonight. In fact, it is impossible for Willard Romney to tell the truth, because he is a lie. And he doesn’t even have a soul.

Thus, I thought it might be interesting to consider two questions: (1) What can we expect from President Obama tonight ?; and (2) What do we wish President Obama would say or do? I am hoping that a wide range of forum participants will take the time to answer both of these questions today, not because I’m authoring the OP, but because I think that there might be both value and entertainment if a good discussion follows. Here is my opinion.

#1: As always, a campaign has three groups to consider. The first is its base, or those who will generally be in agreement with your campaign on most issues. The second is the opposition, which can be counted on to disagree with most things from your campaign. And third is the “undecided.”

As a general rule, a campaign should motivate the base; not stir up and energize the opposition; and appeal to the “undecided,” especially in a close election contest. A good example of this balance is found in President Obama’s performance at the second debate. Because of the wide-spread perception that Romney “won” the first debate -- no matter if we agree with that or not -- it was essential for President Obama to appeal to his base. He did. But he didn’t strike any hornets’ nests, to provide the opposition with something to use against him. And he presented solid reasons for any sincere “undecided” voters to support him.

This doesn’t imply that he can merely have a repeat performance. The Romney camp will surely be looking to reach new lows, and Obama must be fully prepared for each new lie that Willard spouts. And that brings us to question #2.

A lot of good people, both on this forum and beyond, would like President Obama to say that Willard is a liar. This includes many who want the President to use that word -- “liar.” The reason that he will not use that word are found in each of the three groups. First, it would energize the opposition; the corporate media would definitely add fuel to the fire, and fan the flames up until Election Day. Second, that would result in the “undecided” leaning towards Romney. And third, it would force the base to waste time by responding to the “controversy.”

Instead, what I hope to see is President Obama exposing Romney’s “errors” in such a way that it appeals to the entire audience to decide if Romney is a pathological liar, or just a dangerously ignorant damned fool. That energizes the base, by allowing them to exercise control over the post-debate discussions. Why is Romney saying these things? Is he purposely fronting for the neoconservative war party? Is he that stupid? Or a combination of both?

It also appeals to the undecided voters. And it does more: it forces the republican voters, especially the republican women, to evaluate if they can actually vote for Romney. I’m not concerned about what they may say in public, or how they respond to poll-takers. What matters is how they vote. And I can say that the two registered republicans that I talk to about politics the most have decided to vote for President Obama. They know that Willard Romney ain’t got a soul.

What do you think will happen tonight?

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Reply Willard ain't got a Soul (Original post)
H2O Man Oct 2012 OP
madrchsod Oct 2012 #1
H2O Man Oct 2012 #6
bigtree Oct 2012 #2
H2O Man Oct 2012 #7
Gregorian Oct 2012 #3
H2O Man Oct 2012 #9
Gregorian Oct 2012 #10
H2O Man Oct 2012 #11
GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #4
H2O Man Oct 2012 #12
DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #5
H2O Man Oct 2012 #13
aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #8
H2O Man Oct 2012 #14
coeur_de_lion Oct 2012 #15

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:13 PM

1. mittens will have his real weakness exposed

obama will score points every time mittens blinks. decision to obama.

mittens has to be one of soulless people i`ve ever seen on the public stage.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:48 PM

6. I agree.

I think Romney will be blinking quite a bit, with what the President will be firing at him.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:20 PM

2. romney will overreach

and the President will pounce

k&r

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Response to bigtree (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:51 PM

7. Right.

And after the overreach and pounce, we can expect Willard to do a freak show. He will almost certainly lose self-control, and demand/beg for help.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:48 PM

3. Acts and facts.

Regardless of what Romney does during the debate I believe the only things Obama can use are the things he has done, and the things that are the truth. He has the ability to say these things in a way that is effective. As I've been saying all along, as we focus on these two people, it's those who vote who are going to have the impact on where this nation goes. Those people are the undecideds and the Republicans. I don't know what it takes to be undecided in such an obvious situation as this. It doesn't speak well for the mental well being of those who are undecided. But miracles do happen.

In a nutshell I think Obama's cool behavior is what has won him over. And it may very well be that he will come out tonight with some ways of getting Romney to lose his cool. That may be how the undecideds become "decideds".

It really boils down to everyone but the base seeing what a fraud Romney really is.

By the way, I really appreciate your logical paragraph on lies. Most enlightening.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:29 PM

9. Hey! Good to see you!

I think that 90% of republicans who are determined to vote against President Obama are doing so, despite Romney being their candidate. I don't think that there is a huge good feeling about Willard as a person.

One of my medical providers and I discuss politics fairly often. He is a registered republican. But he holds Willard in utter contempt, and views the Tea Party as dangerous. He told me that he has been urging his family members to join him in voting for President Obama.

And I have a young friend who calls himself a "Rockefeller republican." I've met his father, and am inclined to think that the old man molded my friend's thinking. But he will definitely be voting for the President's re-election.

Although this is based upon only two individuals, I am convinced that there will be a segment of republicans who will not be able to vote for Romney.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:43 PM

10. Obama has a means of getting people to see their good side.

I grew up next door to someone who is one of those rare individuals. He hung out with JFK when he was at Harvard getting a degree in architecture. He's pretty old. I called him today after at least ten years. I remember him chastising me as a youngster for wearing a Bob Dole sweatshirt I had bought in a second hand store because it was only a dollar. We talked about how insane the world is getting, from just an architectural standpoint.

At any rate I called to see what he was thinking. He said that Romney doesn't even flinch when hit with the truth. It's hard to imagine how Obama will be able to get him off balance. What I found interesting is that he calls Romney a "comedian".

He shares my sense that as we look upon these two candidates on the stage, there is another perspective in the opposite direction. I keep wishing there could be some kind of dialogue regarding the quality of voters in this country. It's not unique, but we are unique in the sense that we are a democracy with freedom of speech. Regardless of who "wins" the debate tonight, the quality of those who vote is so low that I fear we may not get the House. And I fear for four years from now.

What will it take to turn this country around? Election reform, universal education for all, rebuilding of the Fourth Estate. And many years of work.

Having said that, I think Obama's magic is in his patience and forgiveness. Even Republicans can see beyond their blind subconscious reality to discover the attraction of his goodness. We hear the stories, including yours. It is heartening.

There is so much to say. But to even stay partly on topic I'll refrain for now.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:50 PM

11. In the last debate,

President Obama played Willard on the issue of what he (Obama) said in the Rose Garden on 9-11-12. That was Romney off-balance.

Several times during the primaries, there were other entertaining examples. Mitt begging the moderator for help. Mitt offering a $10,000 bet.

While I agree in large part that Romney generally appears devoid of true emotion when challenged by an opponent, I know that this is a mere mask. He is a petty man.

I look forward to talking with you more after the debate!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:02 PM

4. More of the same ...

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:51 PM

12. He's a strange man.

After the election, when he no longer poses the same level of danger to the general public, I will feel sorry for him -- not because he lost again, but because he is himself.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 03:07 PM

5. I am sure of only one thing.

Romney will lie at every turn.

Lying for the Lord is a basic tenet of his cult.

Google "Lying for the Lord", it is an interesting concept.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:59 PM

13. True.

Romney lacks the capacity to tell the truth.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 04:00 PM

8. I don't see how his soullessness and lack of a moral center isn't already obvious to all

I'm sure may Republicans realize it, too. After all, their own Republican candidates like Gingrich and Perry told Romney he was a liar to his face on national television. What's scary is that they're ready to vote for someone completely unpredictable, unreliable, and out only for himself.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:00 PM

14. Yep.

When I look at Willard Mitt Romney, I see a person who not only lacks a life force, but who advocates for the suffering and death of others.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:25 PM

15. I can't bear to watch

I might destroy the TV if I do. But I am praying as hard as anyone can.

For our President to show up strong and DEFEAT this a** -- with dignity.

He won't need a soul where he is going.

I want the whole country to see him as I do. That is my prayer tonight.

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