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In It to Win It

(8,236 posts)
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 11:54 PM Nov 2021

Kansas' Democratic governor said it was 'too late' for Biden to issue a vaccine mandate, siding with

Kansas' Democratic governor said it was 'too late' for Biden to issue a vaccine mandate, siding with Republicans against it

Business Insider via Yahoo

Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, a Democrat, joined Republicans on Friday in opposing President Joe Biden's vaccine mandate for businesses.

Kelly issued a statement applauding Biden's intentions but signaling Kansas will go in a different direction.

"While I appreciate the intention to keep people safe, a goal I share, I don't believe this directive is the correct, or most effective, solution for Kansas," Kelly said in a Friday statement on Twitter.

"States have been leading the fight against COVID-19 from the start of the pandemic. It is too late to impost a federal standard now that we have already developed systems and strategies that are tailored for our specific needs," Kelly continued.

"I will seek a resolution that continues to recognize the uniqueness of our state and builds on our on-going efforts to combat a once-in-a-century crisis," she wrote.
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Kansas' Democratic governor said it was 'too late' for Biden to issue a vaccine mandate, siding with (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2021 OP
Covidiot JohnSJ Nov 2021 #1
Bur she's not xmas74 Nov 2021 #7
If other workers are put at risk because of unvaccinated people at that work place, that is a JohnSJ Nov 2021 #9
But it does xmas74 Nov 2021 #10
She's doing what she has to do, it's a State with a majority of idiots. She has to dumb it down. dem4decades Nov 2021 #2
I agree. I would rather her have the greatest chance of winning re-election and that means In It to Win It Nov 2021 #5
I would prefer she side with public health Skittles Nov 2021 #12
She did. MuseRider Nov 2021 #15
Thank you. nt DURHAM D Nov 2021 #16
Thank you too! n/t MuseRider Nov 2021 #17
she needs to come clean about how fucked up repukes are in her state Skittles Nov 2021 #25
She does and she has. MuseRider Nov 2021 #27
I don't excuse covidiots Skittles Nov 2021 #28
She has no choice. Dawson Leery Nov 2021 #3
What a coward. Mad_Machine76 Nov 2021 #4
Stop. DURHAM D Nov 2021 #6
I'm in Missouri xmas74 Nov 2021 #8
Spot on. I doubt she can be reelected but hope so. DURHAM D Nov 2021 #13
They don't understand. xmas74 Nov 2021 #14
She can't control what the Republicans in her state do Mad_Machine76 Nov 2021 #11
THANK YOU Skittles Nov 2021 #24
You have no idea of the needle she has to thread Shrek Nov 2021 #19
If AOC and the squad can vote against the BIF... tirebiter Nov 2021 #18
Red state plus running away from Biden now that his approval ratings are very low. Nt helpisontheway Nov 2021 #20
Umm. Mandate came after full fda approval. As soon as it could be. boston bean Nov 2021 #21
Pfizer vaccine was approved back on August 23, 2021 Klaralven Nov 2021 #22
It takes time to implement. boston bean Nov 2021 #23
LOL, how is Kansas "unique"? maxsolomon Nov 2021 #26
She has to do what to do MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #29

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
7. Bur she's not
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:34 AM
Nov 2021

Anything she does is automatically overruled by the state assembly. She's better off with thus approach and sneaking in small things.

If you were here you'd know exactly how hard the GOP has made anything she's tried to do a nightmare.

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
9. If other workers are put at risk because of unvaccinated people at that work place, that is a
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:46 AM
Nov 2021

problem

This should not have anything to do with politics

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
10. But it does
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:51 AM
Nov 2021

That's how it's played out in Kansas and in Missouri, where I live. I'm just outside of the KC metro and my news is the KC market. The attacks against Laura Kelly (and sometimes against Sharice Davids) are non stop. They've made what should be a safety issue into something political. It's not her fault.

She is doing her best with what she has.

In It to Win It

(8,236 posts)
5. I agree. I would rather her have the greatest chance of winning re-election and that means
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:10 AM
Nov 2021

she has to play to the politics of her state.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
15. She did.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:34 AM
Nov 2021

I have known her for years and her husband was my doctor for years. I know how she feels, I did door to door work when she ran for her first city office. Her more moderate stances were never for me but the woman's brain and her ability to work through the hard stuff impresses me daily.

A covidiot she is not but there are an awful lot of idiots both here with their knee jerk reactions and through out my state with their religious, RW idiocy.

They took all her power away and then took the public health docs power away. There are not enough elected Dems here to do anything.

She has done a yeomans work every, single day. We would all like her to side with public health but the last time she did that it took months for it to get untangled enough for us to get any kind of policy at all.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
27. She does and she has.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 07:07 PM
Nov 2021

Is this perfect, hell no, not even close. Our state is governed almost entirely by R's who know if they want that job for life it is there for them. She has done all she can and if she has to accomplish things this way it has to be.

As I said before, she is way too moderate for me but I would 1000 times rather have her keep this job by working around them than lose her to another Brownback.

It sucks but believe me when I say, we all know where she stands but the state cannot be brought back to total standstill over and over and over. She is sacrificing much of her own belief to keep it going. She is in no way close to kissing their ass. THAT is very offensive from someone who does not live here or have to deal with what we have and are likely to have the rest of my life as a government. She has kept us from the worst of their stupid ideas.

OK I am done with this thread. Y'all keep pounding away. If I were her I would figure out a way to undercut you but I am not. I am not that smart and respect your opinion. I just wish you had actual information to make it actually something that can be discussed. At this point it is just a bunch of offensive insults but you are certainly allowed to keep it up.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. She has no choice.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:06 AM
Nov 2021

She won by just 4 points in a bad year for the GOP plus the horrible GOP fiscal mess against a Ted Nugent clone.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
6. Stop.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:30 AM
Nov 2021

She is not a coward.

In March of 2020 she dismissed all public schools for the balance of the school year. She was the first, perhaps only Governor, who made this courageous decision. She saved lives. The men (Republicans) who control the legislature passed all sorts of new legislation to control her after that.

She is anything but a coward.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
8. I'm in Missouri
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:36 AM
Nov 2021

I wish she was our governor. She really stuck her neck out. Right now she has to play down the middle.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
13. Spot on. I doubt she can be reelected but hope so.
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:03 AM
Nov 2021

Meanwhile, looks like others just want her to commit political suicide.

Mad_Machine76

(24,406 posts)
11. She can't control what the Republicans in her state do
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:58 AM
Nov 2021

Or what laws they pass handcuffing her. But she can still fight for what’s right, even if it’s just her voice. But my patience has run out with anybody siding with Covidiots- even if they’re D’s

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
22. Pfizer vaccine was approved back on August 23, 2021
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 09:34 AM
Nov 2021

The legal question is whether an Emergency Temporary Standard issued so long after FDA approval that is not to take effect until January 4 can be legitimately issued under the statute authorizing ETSs, or whether the OSHA standard needs to be issued following normal OSHA standards setting procedures.

It's pretty clear that the standard would be legitimate under normal procedures.

It also seems strange that if it is an emergency, it only applies to employers with greater than 100 employees?

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
26. LOL, how is Kansas "unique"?
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 06:53 PM
Nov 2021

Every state is super special and unique and filled with super special snowflakes who are just SO DIFFERENT from every other place...

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
29. She has to do what to do
Mon Nov 8, 2021, 07:21 PM
Nov 2021

I get that. But was it necessary for her to knife Biden in the back? I hope this decision doesn't kill people.

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