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Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:38 AM

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Reply About the CNN hit job on VP Harris... (Original post)
Mme. Defarge Nov 2021 OP
Poiuyt Nov 2021 #1
wnylib Nov 2021 #3
GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #23
SunSeeker Nov 2021 #2
Hulk Nov 2021 #4
jaysunb Nov 2021 #5
JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #16
Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #9
JI7 Nov 2021 #11
betsuni Nov 2021 #12
Post removed Nov 2021 #29
JI7 Nov 2021 #30
Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #32
Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #33
JI7 Nov 2021 #34
Polybius Nov 2021 #36
JI7 Nov 2021 #37
Polybius Nov 2021 #38
oasis Nov 2021 #40
Polybius Nov 2021 #39
betsuni Nov 2021 #14
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #17
uponit7771 Nov 2021 #19
displacedtexan Nov 2021 #24
jalan48 Nov 2021 #31
oasis Nov 2021 #43
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MrsCoffee Nov 2021 #15
msfiddlestix Nov 2021 #26
leftyladyfrommo Nov 2021 #6
JohnSJ Nov 2021 #7
PSPS Nov 2021 #10
LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #18
Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #13
Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #35
Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #42
PCIntern Nov 2021 #20
spanone Nov 2021 #21
pinkstarburst Nov 2021 #22
msfiddlestix Nov 2021 #27
mn9driver Nov 2021 #25
Steelrolled Nov 2021 #28
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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:45 AM

1. CNN has really been going hard after Biden and his administration the last few months

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:02 AM

3. Seems to me that I remember a connection

between CNN and Bush II in 2000. A relative in management or something similar.

CNN and other corporate media are anti Trump but pro establishment Republicans. They are setting the stage for an establishment RW candidate to win in 2004.

We really need our own media.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:14 AM

23. It's not just CNN.

All the networks have been awful. The infrastructure bill signing didn't even make the top 5 headlines on this morning's " QVC With a Smattering of News"...I mean "Good Morning America." It barely got a mention. Meanwhile, they spent several minutes yammering hysterically about supply chain issues, and which big box chain stores had what popular Xmas list items in stock. Even the Belarus situation got higher billing and more air time. They rarely even mention Kamala Harris and what she's been up to. Thank goodness PBS carries the BBC, DW and NHK, so I get some actual news.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:47 AM

2. K & R & Retweeted!

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:10 AM

4. I have no problem with VP Harris.....but,

 

If you think HRC was toxic with the voters....you haven't seen anything yet.

She is a diamond!...and she is one ambitious, smart, good VP; but she will NEVER win the popularity contest with the "American voter". I'm NOT saying the American voter is at all "smart". It is, to so many, nothing more than a popularity contest for P and VP.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:18 AM

5. Bingo ! Nt

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:35 AM

8. It doesn't help that the misogynist, sexist media has a problem with strong women, and they go

out of their way to show it.

what they did to Hillary in 2016, with their lies and misrepresentation was a disgrace.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:30 AM

16. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:45 AM

9. I agree.

I don't see her winning in a general election. As you say, she'll never be able to win the popularity contest. Th RW despise her and will stop at nothing to trash her and harp on everything she's ever thought about doing wrong. She probably would make a good President, but it's just not in the cards.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 06:31 AM

11. HRC wasn't Toxic . The problem is Misogyny and in the case of Harris RAcism also

At least call out that the problem is a bigoted population along with shitty media that justifies white bigotry .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 06:35 AM

12. +1

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 12:56 PM

30. This is bs. She was competitive against Obama. And she

was popular after she served as Sec of state.

It was the right wing attacks and the media spreading that shit which hurt her.

If your family preferred Trump then they don't give a shit about women's rights and civil rights.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:30 PM

32. Great, she was competitive against a comparable nobody.

 

Granted, that "Nobody" turned out to be one of the finest and most progressive presidents in a generation or two (or three), but our "Most Qualified Whateverthefuck" lost to a one-term no-namer Senator when she was at the top of her game, then had a fair (albeit unrealistic) chance at losing to someone just a few ticks rightwards of an actual communist. And then, AND THEN! She completely botched the campaign and foisted Trump on all of us by refusing to give a shit about anyone or anything outside of her political strongholds.

That's NOT the mark of a popular or effective (or electable, obviously) politician. Especially when the people who fought so hard and for so long to generously permit her the right to run for office abandoned her because she was just THAT unpopular. Immigrants. Women. The poor. Non-black POCs. The middle class. The very people that should have been in the Dem pocket simply... weren't. And no, you can't just blame that on "TehMedia (TM)", nor Comey, nor Russia, nor whatever else of the dozen asinine boogiemen people have conjured. For something that universal, not only within the country but without it, there must be something said for a candidate simply bringing too much baggage to the table.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:19 PM

33. First of all she barely lost ...and won the popular vote by millions...truth is she was stabbed in

the back by those who claim to be progressive like the Greens...(Get Republicans elected every November) and others like Sarandon, Turner ETC who should have known better. Hate, hate them forever. When we lose Roe and possibly our Republic it is because of them.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:20 PM

34. There were many people running in 2008

Clinton and Obama did the best but you dismiss it all be calling Obama a nobody. Joe Biden also lost to Obama.

Of course I can blame the media along with Russian attack on the election and many other things becsuse those were the reality of the campaign.

Not going to ignore the reality of the campaign just becsuse you need to justify your family voting for a trashy racist, misogynist scumbag.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:28 PM

36. Obama was relatively unknown in 2008

Hillary was the heavy, heavy favorite. She should have won that primary easily.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:33 PM

37. Obama was a great candidate and people were calling him to run

since 2004. And there were many other candidates that ran in 2008 including Joe Biden who did not do well at all.

Hillary on the other hand was able to be competitive against one of the greatest candidates in US history.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:38 PM

38. Yeah, Obama was a generational candidate

My plan in 2008 was 8 years of Hillary and then 8 years of Obama. 2008 was a Blue Wave/anti-Bush year. She would have beaten McCain just like Obama. The only thing that worried me is if she would win re-election in 2012. But I'm confidant we would have gotten 8 years of Obama somewhere.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:44 PM

40. 100% agree. nt

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:01 AM

14. Hillary wasn't toxic, she had very high approval ratings and a record for most admired woman.

It was idiots repeating corrupt, Goldman Sachs, Wall Street, emails, Benghazi, neoliberal, status quo, corporatist, racist, Goldwater Girl, Third Way, centrist, establishment, coastal elites, DNC rigged elections, lesser of two evils, conservadem, vote my conscience, incrementalism is evil, complacent, wealthy donor class, send a message, Republicans like progressive ideas it's Democrats who are the true roadblock to progress, milquetoast, Democrats hate the working/middle classes and all the other bullshit about being untrustworthy and unlikeable. They made a monster out of her. Not only Republicans. She wasn't toxic until she ran for president and it was all fiction.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:31 AM

17. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 08:16 AM

19. +1

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:48 AM

24. And she won. By a lot.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 01:18 PM

31. Clinton's favorability ratings August 2016.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows 41 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of Clinton, while 56 percent have an unfavorable one.

That's the worst image Clinton has had in her quarter-century in national public life. Her previous low favorable rating this year was in July, when it was 42 percent, lower than any mark in historical Post-ABC polls except a few points in the 1990s when a large share of the public had no opinion of her. Her previous high for unfavorable views was in June, when 55 percent disliked Clinton.

Trump, of course, has long been the more unpopular of the two presidential nominees, and he remains so; 35 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of him, compared to 63 percent unfavorable.

But if you look just at registered voters, the new poll actually shows Clinton's image is about as bad as Trump's, with 38 percent having a favorable impression and 59 percent unfavorable, compared to a 37/60 split for Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/31/a-record-number-of-americans-now-dislike-hillary-clinton/

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Response to betsuni (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:01 PM

43. Trump can credit his 2016 victory, in part, to rabid anti-Hillary "progressives".

Now we face the extinction of American Democracy.

Thank you, Susan Sarandon, Cornel West and many other so-called "lefties".

Thanks a bunch.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:09 AM

15. .



Ffs.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:25 AM

26. Exactly

Precisely why I had mixed feelings/reactions to Harris as his pick. I understood the reason for it, and I understood Clyburn's insistence and pressure for an African American Woman to be chosen, and I'm not sure any other contender would have been better..

It's going to be very rough seas ahead.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:26 AM

6. I unfriended CNN after those articles. No more.

I will stick with the major news outlets.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 03:29 AM

7. F**K CNN. Politico started this bullshit yesterday. They did it with Hillary in 2016, saying how

"shrill Hillary was, and how she looked angry she looked all the timeĒ in 2016, and of course they joined the pack to say the ď email investigation was reopenedĒ, which was a lie, and then for a week before the election had every right wing pundit trotting across the screen propagating that le

They never did that type of characterization on any republican candidates in 2016 as shrill or angry all the time.

The press has a problem with strong females in leadership roles, and in my view they are showing their sexist colors

However, letís assume the story is accurate, then that means there are people in the WH actively sabotaging this administration by spewing this crap to the media, and if true, whoever is doing that needs to be given their walking papers. We need team players, who work and help each other, not back stabbed

Also, in any presidency the VP doesnít have a large presence to the public, so WTF is CNN trying to say?

After the over the top hyperbole Jake Tapper and the rest of the gang did on Biden on the Afghanistan withdrawal, I dropped them like a hot potato

Bloomberg, NPR, Newspapers, etc. are enough for me to understand what is going on in the world. I sure don't need CNN's talking heads telling me what to think

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 04:20 AM

10. Now you know why Charles Pierce dubbed Politico "Tiger Beat on the Potomac."

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Response to PSPS (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 07:31 AM

18. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 06:58 AM

13. Anyone who has a problem with CNN I believe should do two things

1). Email them and let them know.
2). Turn them off and never go back.

Seems simple to me.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:21 PM

35. I did that with both MSNBC and CNN...both have been awful

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:55 PM

42. Don't know

Donít watch them.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 08:24 AM

20. The fact of the matter is that

The right wing and the complicit media went after Hillary because they couldnít lay a finger on her husband. He was too smart, too charismatic, too ready to have a quick comeback which utterly disarmed the opponent, add too cleverly political.

So they decided to go to destroy his wife. Itís the sign of a weakling and the plot of 5000 B movies wherein the hero is too competent or too physical so they attack/kidnap/assault/harass his family.

Fuckers.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 08:54 AM

21. Screw cnn.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 09:07 AM

22. I find it funny how many people

are crying foul when CNN goes after Harris but are sitting here on DU trashing Beto.

Just something to think about.

CNN and all the people reading those articles probably just think they're "pointing out the truth" just like all the Beto-bashers in the threads I saw today and yesterday. Some people here might want to consider changing their tone on a site that claims to support democrats.

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:27 AM

27. People here are trashing Beto? !!

Seriously? I'm glad I've missed those threads. Wonder what he did that deserved that treatment.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:17 AM

25. It is because of our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The major news networks in the US are war cheerleaders. Their owners are furious that their lovely little war has been canceled.

If you review the coverage from 2001 through 2003, the US war propaganda was breathtaking. MSNBC canned their number one host, Phil Donahue, because he dared to be skeptical of it.

Biden is paying a price for shutting it down.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 10:38 AM

28. Does no-one remember the testimony of the Facebook engineer who

 

explained now divisive posts increase views? It is, and has been, the exact same thing on cable news for years!

I have stopped watching cable news years ago, and feel better for it. I encourage others to give it a try - the craving for outrage is strong, but you can get your fix in less toxic places.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 02:51 PM

41. Vice Presidents aren't expected to do much of anything

but this one is smart, knows how to stay focused and doesn't let the media circus change her course.

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