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Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:01 PM

MSNBC Banned From Rittenhouse Trial

Apparently, someone who claims they're a producer from MSNBC said his boss in New York told him to follow the jury bus after it left the courthouse last night.

Yeah, that's a no no.

The judge just banned MSNBC from the court for the rest of the trial.

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Reply MSNBC Banned From Rittenhouse Trial (Original post)
Sympthsical Nov 2021 OP
FSogol Nov 2021 #1
Devil Child Nov 2021 #2
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #3
Devil Child Nov 2021 #6
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #13
Devil Child Nov 2021 #30
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #31
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #8
Devil Child Nov 2021 #4
forthemiddle Nov 2021 #5
RayTy Nov 2021 #7
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #9
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #12
Amishman Nov 2021 #16
RayTy Nov 2021 #23
WarGamer Nov 2021 #20
Ocelot II Nov 2021 #29
Hekate Nov 2021 #70
ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #92
xmas74 Nov 2021 #10
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #21
xmas74 Nov 2021 #24
Sympthsical Nov 2021 #28
Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #33
ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #93
Steelrolled Nov 2021 #52
xmas74 Nov 2021 #55
Steelrolled Nov 2021 #57
xmas74 Nov 2021 #59
Devil Child Nov 2021 #62
xmas74 Nov 2021 #66
Devil Child Nov 2021 #67
xmas74 Nov 2021 #69
Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #87
xmas74 Nov 2021 #90
xmas74 Nov 2021 #68
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #73
xmas74 Nov 2021 #74
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #75
xmas74 Nov 2021 #76
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #77
xmas74 Nov 2021 #79
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #81
xmas74 Nov 2021 #82
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #83
xmas74 Nov 2021 #84
ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #94
xmas74 Nov 2021 #95
RockRaven Nov 2021 #22
Devil Child Nov 2021 #25
Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2021 #36
Sapient Donkey Nov 2021 #88
sarisataka Nov 2021 #42
tenderfoot Nov 2021 #11
Devil Child Nov 2021 #14
Diablo del sol Nov 2021 #46
Celerity Nov 2021 #61
RayTy Nov 2021 #17
Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #18
qazplm135 Nov 2021 #26
ChubbyStar Nov 2021 #60
Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #71
Politicub Nov 2021 #15
Amishman Nov 2021 #19
xmas74 Nov 2021 #27
Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2021 #38
xmas74 Nov 2021 #43
Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2021 #47
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SledDriver Nov 2021 #32
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Sympthsical Nov 2021 #39
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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:02 PM

1. Source? n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:03 PM

3. I'm watching the trial

Does that make me the source?! Oh, that would be exciting.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:05 PM

6. Both of us are!

 

We saw the same and made identical and nearly timed posts.

So we can verify each-other to protect against "debunking."

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:07 PM

13. High five!

Though, now that we're officially reporters, I'm relieved.

I can stop trying to figure out what the facts are and just breeze on by with supposition. I will now pay only a quarter of the attention I had been previously.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:31 PM

30. Can I cite you as an "anonymous source" when needed?

 

Trying to get comfortable in this new role

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:33 PM

31. Only if I can cite you in random human interest stories.

At least a dozen or so before people notice it's the same person I've been citing as a random local for five years.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:05 PM

8. Ha!

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:03 PM

4. Additional info Sympthsical

 

The investigation is ongoing, the KPD said, adding that the person was "issued several traffic related citations."

According to the KPD, no pictures of any jurors were actually taken by the individual. Judge Bruce Schroeder said the person identified themselves as "James J. Morrison who claimed he was a producer for NBC News, employed by MSNBC."

Morrison allegedly said he was told to follow the jury bus by his boss in New York, identified as Irene Byon. "He was taken in for violating a traffic control signal," Schroeder said.

According to Schroeder, nobody else from NBC News "will be permitted in this building," the Kenosha County Courthouse, "for the duration of this trial. This is a very serious matter ... Someone following a jury bus, that is a very serious matter that will be referred to the proper authorities for further action."


https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/suspect-arrested-for-trying-to-photograph-rittenhouse-jurors-kenosha-police-say/article/_bf797a95-395c-521d-bb9c-8e79a2558543.html

All named individuals have quickly scrubbed their socials

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:04 PM

5. Couldn't that be seen as jury intimidation?

Is the whole world trying for a mistrial?

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:05 PM

7. whats the issue exactly?

We should have the right to know who these people are if this is a fair justice system. Also what if the judge is just lying to keep the press he doesn't like out? He made comments about the media not being friendly to them.

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:06 PM

9. Jury intimidation is a thing

Especially in a case as charged as this one. People have already made threats online.

That is why they are kept anonymous.

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:07 PM

12. So the right and left can harass them?

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:08 PM

16. Jury intimidation

Only way to somewhat mitigate outside influence on the jury is keep them anonymous.

Imagine the bribes that the rich could pull off if they knew their jury's identities

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Response to Amishman (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:18 PM

23. fair point

Never thought about bribing them being a thing but it's a possibility. I just think don't have a lot of confidence in the system as its been rigged since its beginning. The priveleged seem to always get out one way or another though.

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:13 PM

20. YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:30 PM

29. Not until after the trial is over, and maybe not even then.

The press should absolutely not be talking to jurors or identifying them, and the reason should be obvious. The names of the Derek Chauvin trial jurors were disclosed only last week.

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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:36 PM

70. Death threats, what do you think?



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Response to RayTy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:55 PM

92. Surely you aren't being serious.

Right?

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:06 PM

10. There is a Twitter thread

Stating it's a pretty common occurrence. It might not be right or decent but very common.

?s=20

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:14 PM

21. I'll wait for non-Twitter sources

To see what all the details are.

I'm just reporting what happened on the trial feed.

Twitter . . . doesn't have a great record with this trial. Or anything, really.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:18 PM

24. NBC News also has a statement on Twitter

Stating Morrison is freelance.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:28 PM

28. I'll wait for details

They'll come out, probably sooner rather than later.

NBC is going to release a statement to make it as innocent as possible. That's perfectly natural.

We'll see how it washes out.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:37 PM

33. Wow another screwup by the judge.

He needs to apologize and reinstate MSNBC.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:57 PM

93. For what?

Trying to protect the integrity of the trial and the safety of innocent jurors?
Sometimes I just don't understand things around here.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:30 PM

52. I think big news companies hire freelancers to do the dirty work.

 

It happens in a lot of industries, to try to insulate yourself in case of problems.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #52)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:38 PM

55. Of course

A friend posted on Facebook. He did freelance until he decided to stay home with the kids. He said the money is decent but of course no benefits. He also said they were mostly given free reign to "get the story". They were expected to check in but it was well known you didn't necessarily discuss how the sausage was made, as they say. This way the liability is on the freelancer and not the network.

I wish I could share his post. I'll ask for his consent since it's a friends only post.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:44 PM

57. It was (and still is I think) common practice in industry to use

 

"consultants" or "facilitators" to handle bribes to help win contracts, particularly with foreign governments. If caught, the company who hired them plead ignorance. Of course the US government was on to this decades ago, and make the company responsible for the actions of the "consultants".

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:02 PM

59. Yep.

That's exactly why in this reporter's case he could be freelance for a network yet receive no actual direction from them. The order is to get the story-that's all.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #59)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:10 PM

62. The busted freelancer named NBC producer Irene Byon the one directing him

 

She has rapidly deleted her social media accounts.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #62)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:24 PM

66. I could say Mike Parson told me to do something

Since as a state employee he is technically my boss. Did he? No, but I could say it.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:28 PM

67. Were you caught running a red-light while following a van of jurors in a very high-profile trial?

 

Employed as freelancer, a freelancer with a social media history that states employment history with NBC? Helps with my what-if'n.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:32 PM

69. Once again,

People have no qualms blaming someone else if they think they'll get out of the situation.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:13 PM

87. You could.

I could say Mike Parson told me to do something
Since as a state employee he is technically my boss. Did he? No, but I could say it.

But if you did do that, what are the chances that he would delete his social media accounts?

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:23 PM

90. His office has deleted entire posts on Facebook

And chances are legal would tell her to delete,even if she didn't give him the order to chase the bus. Union always told us to delete socials as soon as any allegations were made. I don't see it as any different in this case.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #62)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:31 PM

68. For that matter,

As a union steward I've been called into disciplinary meetings where someone stated that "the steward said it was ok" and then named whichever steward was on their card. By your reasoning someone saying I stated it was OK means I actually said it, even if I've never held a single conversation with the person.

Does it happen? More often than you think. People will gladly pass along the blame if it keeps them out of trouble,even if the other person had nothing to do with it.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #68)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:07 PM

73. I'm right there with you

He sure gave information up pretty quickly. Sounds like a CYA move if I ever did see one. I'm no fan of cable TV but this sounds more than a bit manufactured to me.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #73)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:19 PM

74. I spent 23 years working in mental health

Few people will gladly accept the consequences of their actions. If they find a way put they take it.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:29 PM

75. I'm real interested in the freelancers real story

I think this is going to unravel pretty quickly.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #75)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:33 PM

76. Sure, the producer could have given the order

But it's just as likely no.

As to comments about deleting social media she was probably advised by legal counsel. I was just a steward and that was the first thing we'd tell people-shut up and delete your socials. Why? Because people will look for things to take out of context. They'll also use it in an attempt to contact you and then claim your silence is admission of a wrongdoing.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:39 PM

77. We have a poster on DU speculating that her socials were shut down because she is untruthful

Yep. Right here. Same poster has lots of other opinions being blasted as facts.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #77)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:41 PM

79. I know who it is.

They've jumped into every thread about Rittenhouse, loudly proclaiming his innocence.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #79)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:46 PM

81. Gee why doesn't that surprise me

Funny position to take on DU.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #81)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:51 PM

82. Ikr!

He has several supporters here.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #82)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:59 PM

83. Well it was nice to chat with you!

I'm not a supporter of his, quite frankly he can fuck all the way off to prison.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #83)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 06:01 PM

84. Same

I'm originally from Kenosha so I definitely have a dog in the fight. I'm hoping to return someday.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #68)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:05 PM

94. How many of our "friends"

would stand up?
I teach that to my own kids.
Say you are driving down the road with your buddy X in the passenger seat and get pulled over. A joint is found on the floor in the back seat and could only have gotten there by your buddy tossing it there. Do you think for one second your "buddy" will go to jail and deal with the wrath of his own parents if he can blame you? Maybe, but those are very rare friends.
Lesson: check their damned pockets if necessary before they get in the car. People will do some dastardly things to save their own hide. Hand out complete trust in a very sparing manner.
This story is just more validation, these two will point the finger at each other til the cows come home.

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Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #94)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:43 PM

95. Exactly

Unless there is documented evidence we will never know. I just think far too many are taking his word at face value without any proof.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:15 PM

22. The judge got his excuse to lash out at the media whose criticism he's angry about, and he

won't waste the opportunity.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:19 PM

25. What are your thoughts on media hiring and tasking people to follow jury buses?

 

Judge was clearly right to admonish. This jury needs sequestering and should have been from the start.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:45 PM

36. So you'd be fine with Fox News doing it?

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:16 PM

88. Obviously this guy should be trying to cover his own ass by blaming the woman at MSNBC

but if he produces evidence of her telling him to do so, would your view on this change at all?

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:02 PM

42. Well if that's the case

NBC will simply say we told our reporter to do what is a common practice, "Happens all the time"

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:06 PM

11. Oh it's gotta be true! Why would the "honorable" Judge lie?

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:08 PM

14. Because a reporter employed by NBC was arrested running red lights while following the juror's bus

 

and told police he was instructed to do so by his boss at NBC.

The investigation is ongoing, the KPD said, adding that the person was "issued several traffic related citations."

According to the KPD, no pictures of any jurors were actually taken by the individual. Judge Bruce Schroeder said the person identified themselves as "James J. Morrison who claimed he was a producer for NBC News, employed by MSNBC."

Morrison allegedly said he was told to follow the jury bus by his boss in New York, identified as Irene Byon. "He was taken in for violating a traffic control signal," Schroeder said.

According to Schroeder, nobody else from NBC News "will be permitted in this building," the Kenosha County Courthouse, "for the duration of this trial. This is a very serious matter ... Someone following a jury bus, that is a very serious matter that will be referred to the proper authorities for further action."


https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/suspect-arrested-for-trying-to-photograph-rittenhouse-jurors-kenosha-police-say/article/_bf797a95-395c-521d-bb9c-8e79a2558543.html

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:21 PM

46. See upthread, no confirmation from any source that I see.

 

Have to add, did the reporter cross state lines?

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:09 PM

17. Exactly.

I think he's full of it and just wants to keep the media out so we can't see his behavior.

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:10 PM

18. That jury sure is out a long time.

Gotta be worrisome for Rittenhouse and his fans on the right.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:21 PM

26. Could mean anything

There's a lot of charges to work through.

Could mean guilty on some but not all murder charges or could be not guilty but guilty on some of the lesser charges. Could be holdouts.

I will agree that full acquittals usually happen relatively quickly.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:08 PM

60. The longer this goes on the bleaker it looks for the little pimple face NAZI

Nice to see you King.

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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:45 PM

71. Same here my friend.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:08 PM

15. There will be more to this story. I don't trust anything the judge

says.

It doesn’t make any sense for NBC to dispatch a reporter to follow the bus.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:10 PM

19. Seems very cut and dry, reporter was arrested running red lights to keep up

Judge is a turd, but MSNBC got caught red handed

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Response to Amishman (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:22 PM

27. NBC has stated he was freelance

And that he did not receive that order.

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:46 PM

38. As one would expect them to say.

I obviously don't know the whole story, but NBC could have told them to do it.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:14 PM

43. CNN also states he was a known freelancer nt

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Response to xmas74 (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:21 PM

47. Doesn't mean he wasn't directed to do something.

I'll wait for more to come out before I take a side.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 06:25 PM

86. Yeah, by FAUX News ... we have as much evidence they "directed" something as MSNBC

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Response to Amishman (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:20 PM

89. I think the guy would have to provide something to support his claims

that he was doing it for MSNBC at their request. If he can't do that, then we have no way of knowing if he's just trying to deflect or not. Which would suck for him if he was told, but there is no email trail or something to back him up. But ultimately he made the decision to do it either way. So, he's just as guilty whether he was doing it on his own or at the request of the MSNBC producer. The only question is if MSNBC is also to blame in this, and that requires some sort of supporting evidence. At least it does for me to accept it.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:36 PM

32. Wonder what would've happened if he claimed to be from Faux News?

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Response to SledDriver (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:42 PM

35. The exact same thing

 

Just change the words MSNBC/NBC to Fox News when imagining.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:01 PM

72. The point of my question was that I wouldn't put it past

someone working for Faux News to trail the jurors in order to expose/dox/intimidate them.

If it works and you don't get caught - Faux News.

If it doesn't and you get caught - claim to be from MSNBC.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:40 PM

34. So the judge said that in court?

About the producer being ordered to follow?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:49 PM

39. Yes

I'm quoting from the judge's remarks.

"[the reporter] had stated he had been instructed by Ms. Byon (sp?) in New York to follow the jury bus."

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:46 PM

37. NBC News confirms freelancer was stopped near Rittenhouse jurors but denies wrongdoing

 

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:50 PM

41. Tells me everything I need to know with this wormy denial

 

"Last night, a freelancer received a traffic citation. While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them," the network said in a statement to CNN chief media correspondent Brian Stelter.

NBC rolled the dice trying to get info on the jurors and failed critically in their attempt.

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #41)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:24 PM

48. LOL - the traffic stop prevented the "reporter" from getting

 

photos of the jurors, or where they were going to.

I'd be happy to see all of the cable news people getting banned from the courtroom, just on general principles

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Response to Devil Child (Reply #41)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:12 PM

63. You are rolling your dice with name calling and speculation

How is that working out for you?

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:50 PM

40. Regardless of who the dude was, what he actually did, or who he worked for...

it is another bone thrown to the fascists to play up.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:18 PM

44. Why is the entire network penalized for the actions of one producer/reporter?

MSNBC should still be able to cover the trial albeit with a different crew.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:20 PM

45. Serious violations require serious sanctions

Jury intimidation, especially in a capital murder case with political implications, is no joke.

It's not just a shot at MSNBC, it's a warning to the other news organizations.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:27 PM

50. I think you need to make it hurt at the top.

 

MSNBC has no concern over the freelancer who got caught. They would just ditch him and hire replacements - and this time tell them to keep their mouth shut if caught! It's all about journalistic integrity you know!

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:15 PM

64. Oh he called you to tell you that?

Please keep us up to date with your inside information from the freelancer. Thanks.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:42 PM

80. They can still cover the trial.

They just are allowed in the courtroom.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:24 PM

49. CNN reporting.

 

PD statement does not call out MSNBC or NBC.

Reports it was a freelancer.

I will wait for confirmation

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Response to Diablo del sol (Reply #49)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:29 PM

51. Just saw on faux noise that it was a "freelancer"......hey gotta trust faux noise right???

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:32 PM

53. So you are confirming another outlet says Freelance.

 

Police did not name MSNBC, all sources so far say freelance.

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Response to Diablo del sol (Reply #53)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:34 PM

54. a freelancer from MSNBC/NBC......is what faux is saying

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:39 PM

56. CNN insinuated MSNBC.

 

Did fox do the same? Freelance contracted by MSNBC can be validated.

Again Police Dept release did not name outlet.

Should and will be confirmed independent of Judge.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 06:07 PM

85. Probably

 

A false flag from faux news to make the more sane news sources look bad.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 03:55 PM

58. Hate to see MSNBC doing such favors for that piece-of-shit judge. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 04:20 PM

65. I'm a cynic but I think this clown was flying solo on this

I don't dispute that he is a freelancer who has worked for MSNBC that much is clear, but I am skeptical of his story here. MSNBC is not a small time news organization, this is amateur bullshit with a designed purpose. We shall see.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 05:40 PM

78. Facepalm



But such is the journalism biz these days.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 07:29 PM

91. ComcastUniversal Will Simply make the employees NBC Employees instead of MSNBC

It is one big conglomerate!

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