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gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:28 PM Nov 2021

Who among us hasn't purchased burner phones?

Who among us hasn't purchased burner phones and paid for them with cash?

I mean sometimes people, like Congressmen and presidential staff, don't have a good, available, secretive, means to communicate with persons of interest.

Who among us hasn't purchased a burner phone to call an enemy of ours to threaten him and his family and then throw the phone away?

If a tree falls in the forest, IMO, if no one records it, it doesn't make a sound.

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Who among us hasn't purchased burner phones? (Original Post) gab13by13 Nov 2021 OP
Can't have what ya never heard of. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #1
i didn't know anything about them until i watched "the wire"........... CatWoman Nov 2021 #7
Me too IcyPeas Nov 2021 #22
Lol.. whathehell Nov 2021 #2
You are an idealist, not many of them around nowadays. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #5
Read your responses. Malicious mischief and criminal behaviors Hortensis Nov 2021 #24
Nope. milestogo Nov 2021 #3
Not very smart (just kidding) gab13by13 Nov 2021 #4
The dumb part was that the carrier did not have good coverage in some locations milestogo Nov 2021 #6
I've never seen a burner phone even used ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #8
Your intentions are too admirable, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #10
Smack your mouth. ForgedCrank Nov 2021 #11
Never have Tribetime Nov 2021 #9
I guess I have a burner phone. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #12
That's exactly what I own. llmart Nov 2021 #29
😄 Off hand I wouldn't even know how to obtain one! electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #13
Here's how you do it Bucky Nov 2021 #40
😄 ty. Good to know just in case... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #42
Insurrectionists, drug dealers, cheating spouses dalton99a Nov 2021 #14
Campaigns will often purchase a few for volunteers who do not want to use their personal phone LeftInTX Nov 2021 #15
Not me. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2021 #16
I wouldn't even know where to get one GoodRaisin Nov 2021 #17
You'd just buy a cheap prepaid at...Walmart, but you probably Hortensis Nov 2021 #26
Yep as Hortensis said LeftInTX Nov 2021 #27
I have used a phone given to me by a campaign. I didn't request it, it was just GoodRaisin Nov 2021 #33
I'm surprised that they did not request that you use your own phone! LeftInTX Nov 2021 #37
Didn't even come up about who's phone to use. GoodRaisin Nov 2021 #39
Unless they used this as a way to verify that actual calls were made...LOL LeftInTX Nov 2021 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #18
Can't say that I have DFW Nov 2021 #19
Yes Chuuku Davis Nov 2021 #20
I have. TracPhone from one of those dollar stores. (Used a credit card.) Liberal In Texas Nov 2021 #21
Thanx LIT Lucid Dreamer Nov 2021 #31
what are they? samnsara Nov 2021 #23
Prepaid, no-plan phones LeftInTX Nov 2021 #28
how much are these burner phones? orleans Nov 2021 #35
See post #25 LeftInTX Nov 2021 #38
I currently use a Tracfone flip phone. KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #25
Yep! LeftInTX Nov 2021 #30
I use a "burner" in conjunction with my alias Kaleva Nov 2021 #32
About a half dozen times, but I'm a private eye and worked personal security NightWatcher Nov 2021 #34
For a long time I used prepaid phones because I didn't want to have a monthly bill FakeNoose Nov 2021 #36

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Read your responses. Malicious mischief and criminal behaviors
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 04:32 PM
Nov 2021

just aren't that popular here. This is a Democratic forum, after all. We're far from perfect, of course, but also of course mean people are more prone to those behaviors.

Btw, idealism is different from integrity and decency, but lots of those are still around too, just feeling battered.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
3. Nope.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:37 PM
Nov 2021

I used to have an inexpensive phone on a month to month plan... but it would have been traceable to me.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
4. Not very smart (just kidding)
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:47 PM
Nov 2021

You also probably made the mistake of not paying cash for it, or maybe even looked directly into the store's security camera?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
6. The dumb part was that the carrier did not have good coverage in some locations
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:51 PM
Nov 2021

that I drove to regularly.

This was a long time ago.

ForgedCrank

(1,773 posts)
8. I've never seen a burner phone even used
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 01:55 PM
Nov 2021

except on breaking bad with one exception.
At a previous job, everyone had their own company cell phone, but due to on-call rotation of the department, it became an issue of confusing execs and everyone with the weekly changing on-call phone number. We wound up buying what would be considered a burner phone with limited minutes on it (since it was a very low volume emergency only after hours number), and just passed the phone around when the rotation changed. It sucked because when it was my week to be on call, i had three damned phones I had to carry around, the burner, my individual company cell, and my personal cell. I tried just using the forwarding to send it all to one phone, but got in trouble for "personal use" by getting personal calls forwarded to the company cell. It was a real pain in the ass.

ForgedCrank

(1,773 posts)
11. Smack your mouth.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 02:03 PM
Nov 2021

J/K hehe.
I'd rather starve that go to work for any of those back stabbing imbeciles.

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
12. I guess I have a burner phone.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 02:04 PM
Nov 2021

Bought a Trac-phone years ago (yes, it is a flip-phone) and paid with cash.

I renew service buying cards at store with cash.

I don't use any of the services (like texts or messages or answering service), only make an occasional phone call, maybe three or four a year.

As far as I know, no one knows I have it and there is no money trail tying me to it. I reckon if some sleuth who knows about these things put some effort into it, they could figure it out.

Nothing nefarious. I don't like telephones in general and I went for the cheapest thing I could find.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
29. That's exactly what I own.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:05 PM
Nov 2021

I carry it with me in case there's ever an emergency. So far, after about 20 years, I've never had an emergency

And yes, my kids make fun of it.

electric_blue68

(14,862 posts)
42. 😄 ty. Good to know just in case...
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:10 AM
Nov 2021

... when it's safe for me to do some marching again (who knows when that'll be).

🤔 Considering how edgy the police can be I wouldn't take my smart phone to protest and I mean a peaceful protest/march anyway.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
15. Campaigns will often purchase a few for volunteers who do not want to use their personal phone
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 02:12 PM
Nov 2021

Some volunteers are afraid to use their person phone to phone bank..
For whatever reason...Many times they are afraid that voters will call them back...Others might have a government job and don't want to be identified as volunteering for a campaign etc.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. You'd just buy a cheap prepaid at...Walmart, but you probably
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 04:35 PM
Nov 2021

wouldn't call it a "burner" unless you were planning on using it for illicit purposes before destroying.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
27. Yep as Hortensis said
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 05:53 PM
Nov 2021

They are often purchased by campaigns in small numbers for volunteers who do not want to use their personal cell phones.

Campaigns rely on volunteers and hires to use their personal phones. (It saves money)

But every once in awhile, you get a volunteer who is "paranoid" about using their personal phone. (They might be afraid that voters will contact them or that something negative will happen)


Many of these types are first time volunteers. So if a prospective volunteer says, "I would like to volunteer, but I'm afraid using my personal phone will make me a target"

For these types of hesitant volunteers, a campaign can provide them with a prepaid cell phone.

There is nothing nefarious about this.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
33. I have used a phone given to me by a campaign. I didn't request it, it was just
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:53 PM
Nov 2021

given to me when I volunteered to make calls for the campaign. I didn't know it was considered a burner phone.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
37. I'm surprised that they did not request that you use your own phone!
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:31 PM
Nov 2021

I used my phone when I volunteered for the Obama campaign.

I believe they may have had phones available, but I just used my phone.

Campaigns cannot afford to have numerous accounts for phones, so they just get cheap prepaid phones. When the campaign is over, so is the phone and/or charges.

I'm really surprised they didn't ask you to use your phone!

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
39. Didn't even come up about who's phone to use.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:42 PM
Nov 2021

I was just told to come pick up my phone and call list.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
41. Unless they used this as a way to verify that actual calls were made...LOL
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:50 PM
Nov 2021

Yes, it happens!

Nowadays phone banks are all going to virtual.

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
21. I have. TracPhone from one of those dollar stores. (Used a credit card.)
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 03:42 PM
Nov 2021

I've used it a couple of times when I've sold a couple of cars. I didn't want to put any of my real phone numbers in the ads. I get enough spam calls as it is. When the TracPhone rang I knew it would probably be an ad response and then would check the VM for the callers number and call them back.

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
31. Thanx LIT
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:15 PM
Nov 2021

I've had mobile phones since 1990 when they were expensive and BIG [came in a huge/heavy purse-sized bag].

I've used online marketing before w/ no problems. But now I want to sell a vehicle and your advice sounds just what I'll do.
Thanx.

Been in high tech all my life and now that I'm retired I hate almost all of it.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
28. Prepaid, no-plan phones
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:02 PM
Nov 2021

Their use is often temporary and the number is not assigned to an individual account.

You can buy them at Dollar Stores, gas stations and WalMart and online.

Many times, they are "no frills"...

They are sometimes used by limited income people, who can't afford plans. They are often flip phones..

Sometimes old phones can be converted to burner phones. I should have done that with my old flip phone, but oh well.....

orleans

(34,045 posts)
35. how much are these burner phones?
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:02 PM
Nov 2021

you said prepaid -- is there a charge per minute to talk on them?

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
25. I currently use a Tracfone flip phone.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 04:32 PM
Nov 2021

I had one before and loved it. They stopped supporting it so I spent $39 on a new one that works on 4G. Still only does calls and text. I still have the old minute plan and have nearly 10,000 minutes. Every year I add an annual card. The last time it was $129 for the year.

One of my nephews teases me about being an opiod kingpin since I use a "burner" phone.

It is cheap. It fits my needs. It fits easily in my pocket. I never butt dial anyone.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
30. Yep!
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:05 PM
Nov 2021

People are bashing these as if they are only for nefarious purposes, but they have a niche.

I have never owned one, but for those who use a phone as a "phone" and not an "internet device", they are an affordable option.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
32. I use a "burner" in conjunction with my alias
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 06:17 PM
Nov 2021

"I created an alias awhile back & I use that alias to shop on line.

The alias has it's own e-mail address, cell phone and number, and on-line accounts at Amazon, Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot, and Target. When paying, I just use non-reloadable or gift cards which I get at nearby Dollar General and Family stores. Merchandise is sent to another place and not my home.

Using an alias is perfectly legal as long as you aren't using it to commit fraud or other crimes."

" I use the DuckDuckGo search, Brave browser and Tor

https://www.torproject.org/download/

Tor hides your ISP address but you'll have to jump some extra hoops in order to log on to some sites. Amazon requires a one time password to be entered that they send to your email address that you are using. Walmart makes you go through several of this pictures where you prove you are not a robot. Another thing is that pages take longer to laod when using Tor."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212808479

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
34. About a half dozen times, but I'm a private eye and worked personal security
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 10:55 PM
Nov 2021

If the right people went looking for me I'm sure I'd been caught 80% of the time.

God I miss the truly sneaky shit.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
36. For a long time I used prepaid phones because I didn't want to have a monthly bill
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 11:03 PM
Nov 2021

... for something that I only used occasionally or not at all. This was probably 20 or maybe even 25 years ago. All of my serious phone calls were done on a landline (of course) and my emails were sent by desktop computer-connected-to-modem. Didn't we all do that at one point? I was really a holdout in getting a regular cellphone though, because I didn't think I needed one.

Finally my son got me a smartphone and put me on his T-Mobile family plan because he was tired of me changing the phone numbers on the prepaid phones all the time. I still don't use it very often but at least I have something from THIS century.

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