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Tue Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 AM

Omicron may cause milder symptoms. But experts aren't breathing easy yet.


(NBC News) Amid the global concern over a new coronavirus strain has been one piece of hopeful news: Those infected with the omicron variant appear to have “very mild” symptoms, according to the South African doctor who first spotted the variant.

Dr. Angelique Coetzee told the BBC that neither she nor her colleagues had admitted anyone who had the strain to the hospital so far. Her patients had experienced extreme fatigue but no loss of taste or smell, which are often telltale symptoms of Covid-19, she said.

The early reports are encouraging, epidemiologists and other experts said.

But they cautioned that there is too little data to draw any conclusions yet. Their bigger concern, they said, is how quickly the omicron variant, with its high number of mutations, might spread and how it will match up against vaccines.

“I don’t think we know anything about the virulence. What we’re worried more about is the transmissibility and the immune-evasion capabilities,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease doctor who is a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. ...................(more)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/omicron-may-cause-milder-symptoms-experts-arent-breathing-sigh-relief-rcna6920




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Reply Omicron may cause milder symptoms. But experts aren't breathing easy yet. (Original post)
marmar Nov 2021 OP
snowybirdie Nov 2021 #1
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #2
Klaralven Nov 2021 #3
LisaL Nov 2021 #6
Klaralven Nov 2021 #7
helpisontheway Nov 2021 #4
LisaL Nov 2021 #5
Sneederbunk Nov 2021 #8
GusBob Nov 2021 #14
Sneederbunk Nov 2021 #15
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #9
NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #10
Tomconroy Nov 2021 #11
JanMichael Nov 2021 #12
greenjar_01 Nov 2021 #13

Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:00 AM

1. I'm just wondering

Why Moderna CEO, threw a wrench into things by saying his vaccine likely won't work against the new varient? So confusing.

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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:07 AM

2. It may have to do with the way the first tests are conducted which Dr. Gottlieb said

Would show the vaccine wouldn't be as effective but whose results wouldn't be definitive. But the Moderns guy didn't explain his thinking. I was curious too.

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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:10 AM

3. I think he talked to some of the scientists at Moderna

 

He was relatively optimistic in his interview on CNBC in the morning. Later in the day he gave an interview with Financial Times.

In between, he apparently got new results from the scientists working on Omicron.

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:36 AM

6. I don't know how much data they could have gotten by now.

But it has so many mutations that they might have made a reasonable assumption that vaccine unlikely to work well against it.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:57 AM

7. They've had the full sequence of Omicron for a few days

 

Whether they have received virus cultures is unclear, but they have probably just become available.

Probably they have early results from computer modeling of how the mutations change the shape and other aspects of the spike protein.

The change must be significant because one of the things that first alerted the presence of Omicron was that the PCR-RT tests were not detecting the S protein.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 AM

4. I worry because more people living in the United States are obese

and have many health issues. I think that could make our cases of severe covid and deaths higher. Also, if a larger part of our population is older than other places it could make a difference.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:30 AM

5. Exactly.

We have a lot of obese people in the US. If vaccines work very poorly against Omicron it's likely not going to be good.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:12 PM

8. Interesting that speculation is so rampant.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:51 PM

14. DU seems to be splitting into 2 factions

One side thinks Omicron is a concern and attention should be given

The other side thinks its a nothing burger and getting too much attention ( near as I can tell )

Its an interesting dynamic to say the least. I am wondering the cause...is it pandemic fatigue or pandemic overkill?

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:05 PM

15. I think there is a third faction.

Those of us who will let science tell us what to do.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:28 PM

9. The market seemed to be taking the news in stride until

About 10:30 when Powell said something about tapering bond purchases.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:46 PM

10. Not really, futures were down huge already, Powell did make it worse

Double hit

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:47 PM

11. Look at the morning chart.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:48 PM

12. And we have no idea if it has long haul capabilities.

None not any idea so anybody that thinks they do know doesn't know.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:51 PM

13. Oh boy

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