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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:01 AM

marmar (74,106 posts)

Anti-vax, election conspiracy theory-promoting GOPer joins the "f'ed around and found out" club

(Detroit Free Press) William Hartmann, the Republican member of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers who made national headlines for initially refusing to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election, died Tuesday following a battle with COVID-19.

Douglas Reimel, Hartmann’s friend, shared the news on Facebook, and others who knew Hartmann offered their condolences online. Hartmann was 63.

Hartmann's fight with COVID-19 landed him in the ICU, where he was on a ventilator, according to a Facebook post from Elizabeth Hartmann, his sister. He was hospitalized at Wyandotte Hospital, according to Reimel. A spokesperson for the hospital did not immediately respond to a request for details.

Hartmann's death comes amid the latest surge in COVID-19 in Michigan that has filled hospital beds across the state. Michigan remains the nation's worst COVID-19 hot spot, leading the country in cases in recent weeks, according to the CDC. ..........(more)

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2021/12/01/william-hartmann-obituary-covid-19-wayne-county-gop-canvasser/8814707002/

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Anti-vax, election conspiracy theory-promoting GOPer joins the "f'ed around and found out" club (Original post)	marmar	Dec 2021	OP
Enjoy your spot on the HErman Caine Award list	JT45242	Dec 2021	#1
Do you have information that he was not vaxed or was against masking?	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#3
Yup....	SouthernCal_Dem	Dec 2021	#7
Thank you. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#17
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2021	#9
You still here?	Pinback	Dec 2021	#12
Vax/mask stance?	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#2
.......	marmar	Dec 2021	#5
Thank you. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#10
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2021	#4
Just a sprinkle a day, make that troll fade away....	marmar	Dec 2021	#6
It worked!	Walleye	Dec 2021	#14
.......	marmar	Dec 2021	#16
Bro, you're not supposed to LICK the windows.	PTWB	Dec 2021	#8
Don't post wacky reich wing theories if you are not a reich wing troll. . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#13
If he was unvaccinated, he didn't "battle covid", he surrendered	Walleye	Dec 2021	#11
Any chance of overturning the outcome?	Pinback	Dec 2021	#15
DUzy! . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#19
I tried to understand the logic of anti vaxxers/anti-maskers . . . . .	Lovie777	Dec 2021	#18
They believe they are defending freedom, but purposely avoid responsibility that comes w freedom	Bernardo de La Paz	Dec 2021	#20

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:06 AM

JT45242 (1,128 posts)

1. Enjoy your spot on the HErman Caine Award list

Zero sympathy for this fascist

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:07 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

3. Do you have information that he was not vaxed or was against masking?

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

SouthernCal_Dem (822 posts)

7. Yup....

In one Facebook post, Hartmann appeared to question the efficacy of the vaccine. "If the ouchie is so great, why do they have to offer bribes?" he wrote. In others, he referred to COVID-19 as the "wuflu" and suggested that Democrats were using the pandemic "to scare the public."

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2021/12/01/william-hartmann-obituary-covid-19-wayne-county-gop-canvasser/8814707002/

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:18 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

17. Thank you. . . . nt

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:15 AM

Pinback (10,960 posts)

12. You still here?

Not for long, I reckon.

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:06 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

2. Vax/mask stance?

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

marmar (74,106 posts)

5. .......

...On Facebook, Hartmann was an avid Trump supporter and anti-vaxxer, downplaying the severity of the pandemic and the effectiveness of vaccines.

"If the ouchie is so great, why do they have to offer bribes?" he wrote in one post.

Hartmann's death comes as COVID-19 is surging in Michigan, which has led the nation in cases since November, with hospitals stretched to capacity. Michigan's surge is being largely driven by unvaccinated people, experts say. ....

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2021/12/01/anti-vax-republican-who-refused-to-certify-detroits-election-died-of-covid-19#.YaeP6G2T5cs.link

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:13 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

10. Thank you. . . . nt

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

marmar (74,106 posts)

6. Just a sprinkle a day, make that troll fade away....

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:16 AM

Walleye (14,596 posts)

14. It worked!

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:16 AM

marmar (74,106 posts)

16. .......

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

PTWB (3,791 posts)

8. Bro, you're not supposed to LICK the windows.

What are you doing, man!

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:15 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

13. Don't post wacky reich wing theories if you are not a reich wing troll. . . . nt

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:15 AM

Walleye (14,596 posts)

11. If he was unvaccinated, he didn't "battle covid", he surrendered

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:16 AM

Pinback (10,960 posts)

15. Any chance of overturning the outcome?

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:20 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

19. DUzy! . . . nt

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:19 AM

Lovie777 (3,917 posts)

18. I tried to understand the logic of anti vaxxers/anti-maskers . . . . .

but I can't. Is it because they believe they will be martyrs, heroes? it's crazy. Anywho, I would say let them kill each other off, but alas, good people are also affected with this insanity.

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Wed Dec 1, 2021, 11:21 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (41,725 posts)

20. They believe they are defending freedom, but purposely avoid responsibility that comes w freedom

They also believe the vaxes are not vaccine because they are mRNA, not killed-virus.

They believe the vaccines are "experimental" despite nine (9) years of development before Covid came along.

They believe the vaccines kill twice as many people as the virus.

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