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Botany

(70,447 posts)
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:05 AM Dec 2021

So the 15 y.o. Michigan shooter's parents were called into the school the morning of the shootings..

... because people at the school were worried about his behavior. So did they tell the school
that the father had just bought their son a 9-millimeter Sig Sauer pistol last Friday?

All of this was so preventable. The first part being what kind of idiot buys and gives an 9 mm
automatic pistol to a 15 year old boy? Let alone a 15 year old who was showing signs of behavior
problems. A simple warning to the school would have given them time to call the police and to be
on the look out for the shooter before anybody was shot.

(And both parents were right wing Trumpers too. )

Both parents should end up in prison for their actions/inactions too.

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Sheriff: Oxford High School shooting suspect used gun dad bought on Black Friday

The 15-year-old Oxford High School sophomore accused of fatally shooting three classmates and injuring at least eight other people used a handgun his dad purchased four days earlier on Black Friday, Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard said late Tuesday evening.

The weapon used was a 9mm Sig Sauer SP 2022 pistol, Bouchard said. The suspect, Ethan Crumbley, had three, 15-round magazines. That includes 11 rounds in the handgun and magazine and another seven in his pocket when authorities apprehended the suspect.

The sheriff said the suspect fired at least 30 rounds, a preliminary estimate based on shell casings found at the school. That likely indicates the shooter reloaded the handgun at least once during the shooting.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2021/11/30/oxford-high-school-shooting-suspect-used-gun-dad-bought/8817406002/

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So the 15 y.o. Michigan shooter's parents were called into the school the morning of the shootings.. (Original Post) Botany Dec 2021 OP
Fucking gunz and the fucking gun culture Itchinjim Dec 2021 #1
At 15 a teen boy's limbic system is not developed to the point where they can understand "things" .. Botany Dec 2021 #4
Charge them as accesseroies to murder and assault with deadly weapon. Add on domestic terrorism JT45242 Dec 2021 #2
Did he come back into the school with his parents and a gun in his backpack? Walleye Dec 2021 #3
Hope the Dad got a good deal on that pistol ... VMA131Marine Dec 2021 #5
That pistol was a $500 + 15 round killing machine. Botany Dec 2021 #6
These people are Trumpers. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #7

Botany

(70,447 posts)
4. At 15 a teen boy's limbic system is not developed to the point where they can understand "things" ..
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:26 AM
Dec 2021

... and so in the giving a 15 year old boy an automatic pistol is crazy let alone giving one to a person who
was showing signs of behavior issues.

* The limbic system is the part of the brain involved in our behavioural and emotional responses, especially when
it comes to behaviours we need for survival: feeding, reproduction and caring for our young, and fight or flight
responses.

https://qbi.uq.edu.au/brain/brain-anatomy/limbic-system

JT45242

(2,248 posts)
2. Charge them as accesseroies to murder and assault with deadly weapon. Add on domestic terrorism
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:15 AM
Dec 2021

This family will flip quickly to find out what really happened when they are all facing consecutive sentences as an act of domestic terrorism.

When the shooter pretended to be a sheriff to lure kids into the hall, there is little doubt that this was not an "I'm killing the kids who bullied me" and moved into I am terrorizing a school. And domestic terrorism add-on requires all sentences be served consecutively not concurrently.

When all 3 are faced with never leaving a prison, one of them will plea to lesser charges to have a chance to get out in 25 years. That is how you get to the bottom of it.

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
5. Hope the Dad got a good deal on that pistol ...
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:30 AM
Dec 2021

Because he’s not getting it back. What an idiot! Should be charged as an accessory. His kid is now going to spend most of the rest of his life in prison most likely.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
6. That pistol was a $500 + 15 round killing machine.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 10:42 AM
Dec 2021


Bad enough they bought the gun for their son but to have it not locked in a gun safe or even have
a trigger lock on it.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
7. These people are Trumpers.
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 11:22 AM
Dec 2021

Many Trumpers I know leave loaded guns strewn around their houses because then they are not afraid. That is exactly what they tell me.

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