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Zorro

(15,722 posts)
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:21 AM Dec 2021

Epstein houseman describes 'degrading' regimen imposed by Ghislaine Maxwell at mansion

Ghislaine Maxwell was a boss who made almost impossible demands.

She ordered employees at Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion to keep their eyes lowered, to not speak unless they were spoken to — and to clean up and put away their sex toys, an ex-houseman testified Thursday.

No detail was too small — from ensuring that every tissue box was full to checking for holes in Epstein’s fence so that Maxwell’s Yorkie, “Max,” wouldn’t escape.

Maxwell — Epstein’s former girlfriend — was Epstein’s “number 2” and managed Epstein’s households, doing most of the hiring and firing of the staff for his homes in Palm Beach, New Mexico, New York and on his private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

To help the employees remember all their daily chores, Maxwell compiled a 58-page instruction booklet that included checklists of tasks that the employees had to do every day for every room in the house.

https://news.yahoo.com/epstein-houseman-describes-degrading-regimen-023053300.html

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Epstein houseman describes 'degrading' regimen imposed by Ghislaine Maxwell at mansion (Original Post) Zorro Dec 2021 OP
I don't know how "degrading" it was. heckles65 Dec 2021 #1
No, I'm perfectly comfortable going to resorts where "the help" can look at me in Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #2
I'd rather speak to "the help" than the other guests. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #5
Now that's just crazy!! Treating Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #7
I think it a little ironic... Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #8
Indeed. Too bad that bag of shit Epstein got off easy. And you best believe Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Carlitos Brigante Dec 2021 #3
Are you serious? malaise Dec 2021 #4
Leona Helmsley increased her fortune by being "Queen of Mean"... TreasonousBastard Dec 2021 #6
Further proving that you don't get that wealthy being nice tenderfoot Dec 2021 #11
they weren't at a resort onethatcares Dec 2021 #14
Ew. They couldn't clean up their own sex toys? tanyev Dec 2021 #10
Ikr? Nt XanaDUer2 Dec 2021 #12
Jackie Kennedy would not allow the construction workers to look at her Peregrine Took Dec 2021 #13
... Crepuscular Dec 2021 #15

heckles65

(547 posts)
1. I don't know how "degrading" it was.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:30 AM
Dec 2021

It doesn't sound very different from instructions employees would get at any resort. Demeaning, yes, but that's what you do if you want to get the guests coming back.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,494 posts)
2. No, I'm perfectly comfortable going to resorts where "the help" can look at me in
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:34 AM
Dec 2021

the eyes and who knows. Maybe even say hello and ask if we need anything. But that's because I'm not a piece of shit with delusions of grandeur.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,494 posts)
7. Now that's just crazy!! Treating
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

people who provide us with a service like human beings? What's next? Saying "thank you" every now and then?

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. I think it a little ironic...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:36 PM
Dec 2021

The people they treated as invisible or disposable, are now testifying so publicly. Karma, baby!

Carlitos Brigante

(26,494 posts)
9. Indeed. Too bad that bag of shit Epstein got off easy. And you best believe
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Dec 2021

that unlike Trump. I don't wish her well.

Response to heckles65 (Reply #1)

malaise

(268,693 posts)
4. Are you serious?
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:43 AM
Dec 2021

I'm not a guest who thinks demeaning the help is part of the package. Indeed we boycott places that treat workers poorly

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
11. Further proving that you don't get that wealthy being nice
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:08 PM
Dec 2021

And most billionaires the past few years don't seem very nice at all.

onethatcares

(16,161 posts)
14. they weren't at a resort
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:01 PM
Dec 2021

these were private homes of the rich and infamous.

The guests didn't go there for a good dinner and a look at the water.

Peregrine Took

(7,412 posts)
13. Jackie Kennedy would not allow the construction workers to look at her
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:41 PM
Dec 2021

when she visited her house on Martha's Vineyard.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
15. ...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:25 PM
Dec 2021

Not sure that it was a great idea for the prosecution to put this witness on the stand, his testimony didn't really offer much support to the charges against Maxwell and on cross he was caught lying which really impeached his credibility as a witness. Kind of reminded me of some of the Rittenhouse witnesses who were called by the prosecution and who ended up benefiting the defense.

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