Sun Dec 5, 2021, 01:02 PM

TeamProg (2,970 posts)

The Bible Tells Us When A Fetus Becomes A Living Being

The Bible Tells Us When A Fetus Becomes A Living Being

Many people think that a human being is created at the time of conception but this belief is not supported by the bible. The fact that a living sperm penetrates a living ovum resulting in the formation of a living fetus does not mean that the fetus is a living human being. According to the bible, a fetus is not a living person with a soul until after drawing its first breath.

After God formed man in Genesis 2, He “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being”. Although the man was fully formed by God in all respects, he was not a living being until after taking his first breath.

In Job 33:4, it states: “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”

Again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6, “Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord.”

In Exodus 21:22 it states that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined; however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death. It should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine; it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense.

According to the bible, destroying a living fetus does not equate to killing a living human being even though the fetus has the potential of becoming a human being. One can not kill something that has not been born and taken a breath. This means that a stillborn would not be considered a human being either. Of course, every living sperm has the potential of becoming a human being although not one in a million will make it; the rest are aborted.

- Found in archives. Best abortion argument I could find here at DU. Originally posted by "Itchingcarpenter".

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The Bible Tells Us When A Fetus Becomes A Living Being (Original post)	TeamProg	Dec 2021	OP
Just like eating a pecan pie isn't the same as deforestation.	Ocelot II	Dec 2021	#1
Cute! Or all those sesame seeds, fish roe, scrambled eggs.	erronis	Dec 2021	#32
God destroys more fetuses than anything else	mainer	Dec 2021	#2
Wow, 1 in 3 ??	TeamProg	Dec 2021	#5
In med school I was taught 1/3 miscarriage rate	mainer	Dec 2021	#14
They always have a retort: "Miscarriages only happen to defective fetuses that never had souls."	Girard442	Dec 2021	#24
That is disgusting. Never heard that before. My mom had multiple "miscarriages." Think she would	Evolve Dammit	Dec 2021	#40
So sorry about your mom. It must have been difficult for her.	Girard442	Dec 2021	#44
Thanks. I was too young to know. I believe there were 5 or more.	Evolve Dammit	Dec 2021	#45
Pseudo-"religious" quackery.	calimary	Dec 2021	#53
What about all the eggs?	Cracklin Charlie	Dec 2021	#11
There are hundreds of millions if not billions of sperm released with each ejaculate. NOT eggs.	hedda_foil	Dec 2021	#21
Elle Woods argued it this way in "Legally Blonde":	LastLiberal in PalmSprings	Dec 2021	#33
And a lot more that just die of sensescene before becoming a "gleam in the father's eye"	erronis	Dec 2021	#35
There are hundreds of millions of women.	Cracklin Charlie	Dec 2021	#47
More like 2 in 3	Happy Hoosier	Dec 2021	#12
I've been saying this very thing for years.	evolves	Dec 2021	#39
It's not about what "God" did or did not do, though... it's about punishing women for having	50 Shades Of Blue	Dec 2021	#3
not wrong but	mopinko	Dec 2021	#4
The piece is strictly about what the Bible has said.. Not modern thought.	TeamProg	Dec 2021	#7
true.	mopinko	Dec 2021	#9
Updated, it would call Eve	multigraincracker	Dec 2021	#19
Their lord is Putin's Whore and their bible is whatever tripe he speaks	uponit7771	Dec 2021	#6
Thank you. They never gave a shit about what the Bible says -- they'll tell YOU what	Nay	Dec 2021	#26
1+	keithbvadu2	Dec 2021	#8
as if they REALLY rely on the bible	RussBLib	Dec 2021	#10
An oldie but goodie. FYI, the DU'er is "Ichingcarpenter" as in I Ching not itching	ms liberty	Dec 2021	#13
+1 n/t	sl8	Dec 2021	#52
What does the Bible have to do with this?	Happy Hoosier	Dec 2021	#15
Amen	Six117	Dec 2021	#29
ABORTION is about controlling women PERIOD!	RANDYWILDMAN	Dec 2021	#16
On demand, without apology, at any time, without restriction.	WhiskeyGrinder	Dec 2021	#17
Religions of all faith interpret "GOD's Words" to suit their agenda. Been going on for centuries. nt	Fla Dem	Dec 2021	#18
Yes indeed. In the beginning God created	multigraincracker	Dec 2021	#20
And while Biblical scholars disagree about when the various parts of the Bible were written,	Lonestarblue	Dec 2021	#31
I've also noticed that the framers of the Constitution	Mr.Bill	Dec 2021	#22
I like this. So we need to stop tourists from having sex while in the US.	mjvpi	Dec 2021	#27
Good point. nt	crickets	Dec 2021	#37
They'll just argue that breath comes through the umbilical cord or some other bullshit.	meadowlander	Dec 2021	#23
It doesn't matter what the Bible says, it is not the constitution and no	Bev54	Dec 2021	#25
I'm in favor of their ability to picket	IbogaProject	Dec 2021	#28
This message was self-deleted by its author	Six117	Dec 2021	#43
It's not the baby's heartbeat, nor is it the brain activity	FakeNoose	Dec 2021	#30
Exactly. By there standards....	paleotn	Dec 2021	#34
Numbers 5 details an abortion ordered by the court	KentuckyWoman	Dec 2021	#36
As an athiest i try to keep it simple.	SYFROYH	Dec 2021	#38
You lost me at bible.	twodogsbarking	Dec 2021	#41
Yeah, but what does The Lord Of The Rings have to say about it?	Iggo	Dec 2021	#42
It's not just the bible.	halfulglas	Dec 2021	#46
this is a bunch of superstitous hooey	mike_c	Dec 2021	#48
I (O/P) am not a religous person in the slightest. The info presented is only an argument against	TeamProg	Dec 2021	#50
I support woman's right to choose all the way up to childbirth.	roamer65	Dec 2021	#49
The great thing about the bible	Retrograde	Dec 2021	#51

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Sun Dec 5, 2021, 01:04 PM

Ocelot II (105,568 posts)

The Bible Tells Us When A Fetus Becomes A Living Being

1. Just like eating a pecan pie isn't the same as deforestation.

32. Cute! Or all those sesame seeds, fish roe, scrambled eggs.

2. God destroys more fetuses than anything else

5. Wow, 1 in 3 ??

14. In med school I was taught 1/3 miscarriage rate

24. They always have a retort: "Miscarriages only happen to defective fetuses that never had souls."

40. That is disgusting. Never heard that before. My mom had multiple "miscarriages." Think she would

44. So sorry about your mom. It must have been difficult for her.

45. Thanks. I was too young to know. I believe there were 5 or more.

53. Pseudo-"religious" quackery.

11. What about all the eggs?

21. There are hundreds of millions if not billions of sperm released with each ejaculate. NOT eggs.

33. Elle Woods argued it this way in "Legally Blonde":

35. And a lot more that just die of sensescene before becoming a "gleam in the father's eye"

47. There are hundreds of millions of women.

12. More like 2 in 3

39. I've been saying this very thing for years.

3. It's not about what "God" did or did not do, though... it's about punishing women for having

4. not wrong but

7. The piece is strictly about what the Bible has said.. Not modern thought.

9. true.

19. Updated, it would call Eve

6. Their lord is Putin's Whore and their bible is whatever tripe he speaks

26. Thank you. They never gave a shit about what the Bible says -- they'll tell YOU what

8. 1+

10. as if they REALLY rely on the bible

13. An oldie but goodie. FYI, the DU'er is "Ichingcarpenter" as in I Ching not itching

52. +1 n/t

15. What does the Bible have to do with this?

29. Amen

16. ABORTION is about controlling women PERIOD!

17. On demand, without apology, at any time, without restriction.

18. Religions of all faith interpret "GOD's Words" to suit their agenda. Been going on for centuries. nt

20. Yes indeed. In the beginning God created

31. And while Biblical scholars disagree about when the various parts of the Bible were written,

22. I've also noticed that the framers of the Constitution

27. I like this. So we need to stop tourists from having sex while in the US.

37. Good point. nt

23. They'll just argue that breath comes through the umbilical cord or some other bullshit.

25. It doesn't matter what the Bible says, it is not the constitution and no

28. I'm in favor of their ability to picket

30. It's not the baby's heartbeat, nor is it the brain activity

34. Exactly. By there standards....

36. Numbers 5 details an abortion ordered by the court

38. As an athiest i try to keep it simple.

41. You lost me at bible.

42. Yeah, but what does The Lord Of The Rings have to say about it?

46. It's not just the bible.

48. this is a bunch of superstitous hooey

50. I (O/P) am not a religous person in the slightest. The info presented is only an argument against

49. I support woman's right to choose all the way up to childbirth.

51. The great thing about the bible