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Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:47 PM

Why are so many DU posts just links to twitter? This has increased greatly recently.

Last edited Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I have a twitter account but really don't want that organization to know that I am interested in a story posted on DU. But many people have been simply posting a title and a twitter link as their full story.

Twitter just recently changed CEOs and probably changed its company structure, motivations, etc. I don't know that I can trust whoever now owns them.

Does DU encourage this type of linkage? If so, why?

**** Note that my issue happened because of a privacy blocker add-on. See post below. ****

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Reply Why are so many DU posts just links to twitter? This has increased greatly recently. (Original post)
erronis Dec 2021 OP
relayerbob Dec 2021 #1
Diamond_Dog Dec 2021 #26
vanlassie Dec 2021 #27
EarlG Dec 2021 #2
erronis Dec 2021 #6
erronis Dec 2021 #17
Sugarcoated Dec 2021 #28
50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2021 #3
femmedem Dec 2021 #7
Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #42
bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #4
PatSeg Dec 2021 #19
Bev54 Dec 2021 #41
PatSeg Dec 2021 #51
Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #43
PatSeg Dec 2021 #52
Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #55
PatSeg Dec 2021 #56
moonscape Dec 2021 #33
femmedem Dec 2021 #5
tenderfoot Dec 2021 #8
applegrove Dec 2021 #9
Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #44
msongs Dec 2021 #10
mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2021 #11
NNadir Dec 2021 #12
Tommymac Dec 2021 #13
3auld6phart Dec 2021 #14
PTWB Dec 2021 #15
Tetrachloride Dec 2021 #16
PatSeg Dec 2021 #22
erronis Dec 2021 #18
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #20
Pinback Dec 2021 #21
PatSeg Dec 2021 #23
TheProle Dec 2021 #24
Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #34
Wicked Blue Dec 2021 #25
Tomconroy Dec 2021 #29
Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #45
DBoon Dec 2021 #30
48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #31
zuul Dec 2021 #32
Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #35
Shermann Dec 2021 #36
Pinback Dec 2021 #50
sarcasmo Dec 2021 #37
mainer Dec 2021 #38
erronis Dec 2021 #48
Renew Deal Dec 2021 #39
erronis Dec 2021 #49
Kaleva Dec 2021 #40
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2021 #46
hatrack Dec 2021 #47
librechik Dec 2021 #53
Efilroft Sul Dec 2021 #54

Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:50 PM

1. Better that then time-wasting videos

3-15 minutes to say what I can read in less than 1.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:40 PM

26. +1000

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:41 PM

27. +1,000,000. Especially if I have to endure some

over amped person giving me their viewpoint first.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:52 PM

2. We don't encourage or discourage the posting of tweets

People can post them if they want.

However: If you are only seeing a links to Twitter instead of actual tweets embedded in posts, we're not entirely sure why that might be the case. But some members have reported that content blocking scripts or extensions may prevent tweets from embedding properly, so if you are running something like that, it could be the cause.

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Response to EarlG (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:57 PM

6. Thanks, EarlG. My biggest issue is with posters not even bothering to add a sentence or two about

the subject. Something that might indicate that they actually read the content, digested it, and gave a synopsis.

Yes, I do have a slew of blockers: Adblocker, DuckDuckGo, uMatrix, PrivacyBadger, etc.

But I also don't want twitter.com to harvest every post I want to read on DU. I'll read the tweets if the presented abstract is worthy. The less flashy visuals, the better.

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Response to EarlG (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:16 PM

17. It looks like a Firefox add-on "DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials" was blocking the tweet content.

I disabled it and the twitter images are coming through.

I still find it unfortunate that so much content needs to contact twitter.

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Response to EarlG (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:50 PM

28. Twitter posts often clutter up the Discussion Forum

Suggestion: Consider creating a DU Forum just for Twitter postings

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:52 PM

3. That's where a lot of breaking news is, with no paywall!

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:57 PM

7. That's a good point! n/t

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Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:40 PM

42. yes

Twitter remains the best source for news and for comment from important people we would never see otherwise

Twitter is what the user makes it. You shape it yourself by the ppl you follow.

Dissing twitter is like dissing yourself. You choose the content. Or not.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:54 PM

4. We'd rather be shallow than uninformed

Besides, we're too lazy to read. But on the bright side this is a thinking man's shallowness.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:25 PM

19. "A thinking man's shallowness"!

Oh, that's keeper!

I suppose some of it is laziness, but also, I think many people are on information overload and can only absorb so much. Meanwhile, I don't care much for Twitter and I believe it has contributed to a lot of shallowness in our society. I go there occasionally for some posts, but I don't linger long - get in and get out! I think the world was a better place pre-Twitter.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:29 PM

41. I like the embedded tweets, because I don't have a twitter account

and don't intend on ever getting one, but at least I get some of the important tweets on this forum. I find it valuable.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #41)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 10:44 AM

51. Yes, I'd rather read the tweets here

than spend any time on Twitter. I only opened a Twitter account because I often couldn't see the posted tweets.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:41 PM

43. you shape your own twitter experience, you know

If it's shallow, or laziness........well, how did your feed get that way?

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #43)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:04 AM

52. I don't spend much time there at all

as I find little in depth information. It is often just brief statements followed by a variety reactions. It is rarely really informative. How much can you really convey in 280 characters? I don't post tweets or retweet anything. I occasionally go there to read a tweet and once and a rare while, I'll respond. That is as much of Twitter as I am inclined to use. I come here, as we actually discuss news, politics, and opinions. There is real interaction here and very little sniping.

That said, I do like a pithy quote now and then. Twitter is good for that, but we can have that without Twitter.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #52)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 01:28 PM

55. what I am saying...

....is that the reason you don't find it informative is because you don't make it so by choosing interesting or informative people to follow.

It is what you make it. All of the things that you say you desire in a site are available on twitter to me because of the choices I've made, plus the bonus is that I am able to interact directly and personally with (for example) four star General, authors and journalists, politicians, academics, and many more who are available to communicate personally on twitter and not elsewhere.

Don't assume that everyone's experience on twitter is as bland as the one you have made there.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #55)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 01:45 PM

56. I'm not making assumptions about other people's experiences

but I have observed how it has affected our society and news reporting, especially since Trump got involved in politics. I also have seen how addictive it has been for some friends of mine, people who used to spend a lot of time on DU. Some of it wasn't very healthy.

Meanwhile, I appreciate your response and I have responded similarly to people who diss Facebook. How Facebook affects us depends on how we use it. For me, it has been primarily positive, though I have some issues with the company and their policies. That said, I really have no use for Twitter. We all have our own preferences and Twitter just doesn't work for me.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:02 PM

33. :)

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:57 PM

8. Because many journalists, writers and such post pertinent articles.

And people want to share them?

Now do The Hill, Politico and the Daily Mail.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 03:59 PM

9. DU is an amalgamation site. Twitter is a major source of breaking

news and memes. We get stuff from elsewhere too.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:42 PM

44. agree nt

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:02 PM

10. amazing how much on twitter promotes trump and right wingers & it's all true of course nt

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:05 PM

11. I do that all the time. Wait; I have an excuse.

I'm at work. I don't have time to fill in the rest of the story. Usually, after work, I'll come back and complete the post.

By posting the tweet, I provide you with enough links to pursue the story on your own, if you so choose.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:07 PM

12. Although I often click on tweets posted here...

...I feel bad about doing so, since I object to the tweet mentality in general.

An abbreviation is not a word.

Likewise tweets are not really thoughts.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:09 PM

13. Why not?

The tweets speak for themselves in most cases.

I am a busy man with lots of things to do so I LOVE simple OP's that I can spend just a few seconds time reading and comprehending.

And the same when I post them - and I post them a LOT! (Ignore me if it really bothers you. I don't mind.)

I make sure to try and paste the linked tweet so IF others want to click it they can, or else they can wait and hopefully someone else with a bit more time on their hands will reply. Or they can see it is a tweet post and move on with little time wasted.

Replies are where the details are IF the community thinks the OP is worthwhile enough to reply to. If not it dies a quick death. No Harm No foul.

I also like in depth OP's and video's when I have time to read or watch them.

To each his own.

If you don't like tweet OP's then simply trash them, ignore them and move on...why stress yourself over them.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:09 PM

14. Like an item

Kind of along the same line more or less.
If you like a item you hit the like button.
It takes one to Facebook. Why that Reuke:
site? Quite a number of rants are really
outstanding. How does one show appreciation.
Seriously. Canít a tick mark be made that
shows ones appreciation? Not an FB fan.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:11 PM

15. I've not noticed a change.

 

I joined in early 2019 and there were many posts that were exclusively twitter links when I joined. It seems there are roughly the same number of posts that link to twitter now.

Maybe that's just my perception.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:14 PM

16. An additional couple of lines of text under the Tweet or Tube link would be a courtesy

that we all can appreciate.

I submit it should be a DU guideline.

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Response to Tetrachloride (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:33 PM

22. Yes I agree

A little context helps people to decide if they want to watch a video or go to another link to explore something further. If the link is an annoying site like The Hill, Raw Story, or Politico, I rarely click on it unless I really do want to know more.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:18 PM

18. My "problem" was a add-on "DuckDuckGo Privacy Blocker". It wouldn't allow the twitter image

to be shown in the post.

My apologies for stirring this pot. But I still think it's a problem when a DU reader needs to get content from another site to even understand the original post. Next up: newsmax.com, rt.com, fox.com, ....

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:28 PM

20. I don't mind Twitter posts.

I am not on Twitter and so appreciate DUers posting informative posts from there.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:28 PM

21. I have no problem with Twitter reposts, IF

the subject of the post gives some indication of what the Tweet is about. The ones that really drive me up the wall are posts with subject lines reading "Firstname Lastname Tweet," or "Firstname Lastname for the win!" etc. These are about as useful as "This!" I open none of these posts.

How about something like "Firstname Lastname on a path forward for BBB" or "Tweet: Voting rights protection now!," and so on.

Then, for bonus points, perhaps the body of the post might contain an original sentence or two , or offer an opinion about why this particular Tweet or series of Tweets is worth reading.

I support EarlG's position that link-to-Tweet posts shouldn't be banned, but I guarantee I will continue leaving these posts unopened when the subject line offers not even a hint of the contents. I wish there were a way to automatically ignore such threads, although I won't put the authors of the OPs on Ignore since they may post valuable responses within threads.

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Response to Pinback (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:34 PM

23. Well said

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:35 PM

24. How will I know what to think

if Tiedrich doesn't reduce it to a bumper sticker and pepper it with naughty words?

I need my red meat and don't want to have to think about nuance!

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Response to TheProle (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:08 PM

34. Glad you found a way to get better about yourself today.

I'll wipe the drill of my chin and read more tweets.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:36 PM

25. I'd love some content, please

to figure out whether I want to click on something

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:53 PM

29. I've just discovered twitter. But it is absolutely the way you can find

Out how the top scientists talk to each other about Covid in real time

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:45 PM

45. yes, that's true

Also true of other disciplines as well!

Amazing people share their expertise and learning on twitter, free for the reading!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:57 PM

30. twitter is blocked on many workplace networks

This includes people working from home through a VPN. Clicking on arbitrary links is also a very bad security practice.

It would be an appreciated courtesy to post a summary of the content. If the tweet references a story in the press, provide the original link to the story.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:59 PM

31. Am I in trouble with the DU judicial body or something?

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:00 PM

32. Why are so many DU posts just links

to video clips?

Does DU encourage this?

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:09 PM

35. Why are so many DU posts

people complaining about how and what others post?

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:19 PM

36. And why are others complaining about those who complain about others? nt

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Response to Shermann (Reply #36)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:00 PM

50. I am NOT fed up with being sick and tired!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:24 PM

37. It's beyond lately, back to 2016 the Trump effect.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:24 PM

38. Because a lot of news breaks on Twitter

And because most journalists have twitter accounts, and they often post their news flashes there first.

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Response to mainer (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:55 PM

48. So DU is nothing more than a dumping ground for people's fav twits?

I really thought there used to be some personal content, opinion added.

I guess we're really all just lazy and think that we should show everyone else what we are watching, just like facebook.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:28 PM

39. What do conspiracies about Twitter's leadership have to do with what is posted by people on DU?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #39)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 07:02 PM

49. Probably nothing. But every DU post that is viewed goes into the twitter.com DB.

There's usually no reason for a company to sell out unless someone can offer a deal that can't be refused. The deal can be tons of bucks like FB or a friendly US agency or another entity (meaning inscrutable.) These happen for reasons, not just because.

Didn't DU have more home-grown content instead of the current posts of links to somewhere else? I don't know. My experience is that there are far few people writing personal essays than there used to be. Much more echoing of some other platform.

Glad you're happy with it all. Keep on posting pictures!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:32 PM

40. Blame Canada.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:45 PM

46. I prefer links to Twitter to one-line posts about what's on TV (n/t)

 

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:47 PM

47. It's simple - global warming.

As CO2 increases in the atmosphere, Earth warms.

Simultaneously, as atmospheric CO2 content rises, human brain function is increasingly impaired.

As human brain function is impaired, attention spans shrink.

Shorter attention spans? More Twitter!!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:09 AM

53. DU is a superb (IMO) "news aggregator" for liberals

So almost all of our posts start with articles/videos from other places. Apparently Twitter reaches a lot of folks on DU, but I seldom go there. When I find a Twitter piece here that I watch, I'm grateful to the DUer who posted it here so I don't have to go to Twitter.


That being said, Twitter kinda sucks.

And DU, thank goodness, is not Twitter.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:19 AM

54. I'd tweet this post to make it meta, but I don't do Twitter.

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