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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Killing the Build Back Better Act Part of Manchin's Run for President?
William Rivers Pitt, Truthout
Manchin loves his coal, sure, so the clean energy provisions at the core of the Build Back Better Act (BBB) were poison to his own personal fortune. Hes a Democrat from a bright red state, and so must cleave at least somewhat to the economic fictions that sustain the right. Given the large chunk of hell hes carved out for himself, however, these hardly seem like enough to justify the mayhem he has unleashed within his own party.
and then it hit me in the middle of the night like an arcing splash of ice water dropped on my bed. I sat bolt upright in the gibbering dark and announced to the startled cat coiled at my feet: My God! Hes running for president!
Put yourself in Manchins shoes. Your own seat is secure until 2024, so there is no need to run for anything next year. Over the long process of murdering the BBB Act, you raked in millions in campaign donations from the energy lobby and other right-leaning interests, which means youre flush enough to fund a national campaign.
Very good points and I think it's very possible Manchin could run aganst President Biden.
I think he sees it as his duty to stop Progressives and any Progressive agenda.
https://truthout.org/articles/is-killing-the-build-back-better-act-part-of-manchins-run-for-president/?fbclid=IwAR20Ela2ElFnc9pE2DsAsa7r_GtGE2S0dBqnbawZCBzZS65VWGZp5XT_1rg
msongs
(67,395 posts)Response to Autumn (Original post)
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pecosbob
(7,537 posts)FalloutShelter
(11,849 posts)People who think that he can't win again in WV are really off-base. But anyone who thinks that he's a credible national candidate is just plain nuts.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)than Biden voters.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)He called Obama a POSUCS and was kicked off DU for stating he would not vote for Hillary, our Democratic candidate.
I won't read a word he says and his opinions do not belong on DU.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Can you imagine?
Enter stage left
(3,395 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,920 posts)brer cat
(24,559 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #18)
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Raven
(13,889 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)If I am wrong, please correct me and I will apologize.
Raven
(13,889 posts)have his own thoughts and opinions and to stand by them. I guess I'm a little offended that you would bring me into this as if, in some way, to bolster your obviously negative opinion of my son.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)He did all I said, and doubled down. They are all out there.
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He has a cult following for reasons that escape me.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)And, he meant it. He also was allll over Facebook in 2016 encouraging people to vote for Stein. He also isn't objectively a very good writer.
The POSUCS thing was insane. I watched it unfold in real time, and it was ll Pitt's fault, about his wife and their health insurance.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)A homeless woman.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)I can remember him "leaving" DU a dozen times, and always coming back.
I've also heard stories about him getting away with things that would have gotten anyone else banned.
Always wondered why he finally left for good.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)He got a pass on the POSUCS thread...and his follow up thread. Both rec'ed to the top of the page.
Finally gone after saying he would not vote for our Democratic candidate.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It will never happen.
Elessar Zappa
(13,964 posts)He couldnt get past the Democratic or Republican primaries. Far too right for the Democrats and not maga enough for the republicans.
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)He's got his yacht, Maserati, etc. Being President would be a demotion.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)Theres no long game. Hes just having a blast turning the screws on the entire country.
The author in the OP or Manchin?
I don't like either of them, though dislike the OP author more. He caused more damage to our party than Manchin has.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)tritsofme
(17,376 posts)What a hack.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Bazinga!!!!!
BlueTsunami2018
(3,490 posts)Manchin would win maybe his own state in a primary and thats it.
Pitt must have awoken from a mushroom trip to come up with this.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)Because I'm often polite.
25. Anyone who thinks this is a fucking idiot or trolll
This whole misinformation campaign has really jumped the shark.
betsuni
(25,465 posts)Fucking idiots/trolls/bad writers can be very popular with some people.
Lots of purple prose.
/ˈpərpəl prōz/
noun
prose that is too elaborate or ornate.
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betsuni
(25,465 posts)sheshe2
(83,746 posts)leftstreet
(36,106 posts)The author makes some points worth thinking about
Elessar Zappa
(13,964 posts)will probably be either Trump or DeSantis. Manchin isnt anywhere near right wing enough to get past the primary.
WarGamer
(12,436 posts)leftstreet
(36,106 posts)She's obviously gunning for the nomination, and she'll have all of establishment DC cheering her on (albeit quietly). It's not just the Democrats who want to get rid of Trump and his knuckledraggers.
But I think the author of the article is onto something re Manchin's ambitions.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)unless you are positioning yourself to replace someone and you want people to think you out played that person. He had to show that he was the one in control.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Delivering this public blow against Biden has made no sense.
Whatever hardline crap Manchin's donors insisted on could have been negotiated behind the scenes with threats to make it public, blah blah blah.
Yeah, that he wanted to make himself look strong and authoritarian doesn't seem to be a whim
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Pitt has no credibility here. None.
He called Obama a "Piece Of Shit Used Car Salesman" and said he would not vote for Hillary and urged others to do the same.
There was no other reason for him to do what he did to Obama or Hillary. You don't do that in one of the most critical elections of our time. Trump was a madman, we all knew that. We ALL knew.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)He was mean to Obama? I don't care, neither does Obama. You don't like him? Don't read his writing. Ignore him. He has credibility with me and he's a terrific writer, something sadly missing.
WarGamer
(12,436 posts)Just kidding, Manchin would finish last in the Primaries and Cheney will be unemployed by Labor Day.
Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)To deny the electoral college to Biden. Possibly send the race into the House.
Hadn't really thought about it until you mentioned his horde of cash.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)He would be destroyed in big progressive Democratic state primaries. As a Republican hed be treated like a rented mule.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)ecstatic
(32,685 posts)Certainly not Democrats and Republicans don't like him so what would be the point? He wouldn't pull enough votes away from Biden to make a difference.
betsuni
(25,465 posts)Ridiculous.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)AncientAndy
(73 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)I don't think he has enough name recognition to be elected to the presidency.