Maxwell jury finds her guilty.

[BigmanPigman]

Just announced on MSNBC.
5 of 6 charges found guilty.

[sunonmars]

1. A lot of rich men are going to be shitting themselves tonight.....

[imanamerican63]

4. They need to be!

[dem4decades]

2. While I'm happy justice is served, it's never the top of the foodchain.

But she's pretty close and a horrible human being.

[pnwmom]

64. It's hard for me to care unless she can drag Trump down with her somehow. nt

[Mme. Defarge]

3. KABOOM!!!

The Peacock there-part series on her is well worth watching.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

5. "I wish her well" was what TFG said.

TFG now knows a Sex Trafficer.

What a sick person to be with a monster like Epstein and groom children for sex.May Maxwell never know freedom again. Those who harm children are the worst of the worst.

[MurrayDelph]

39. He already did

What he knows now is a convicted sex trafficker.

[RB TexLa]

6. I still don't know why the media tried to make people care about this case?

Is it simply the sex sells crap?

[JustAnotherGen]

7. The connection to Trump

And the British Monarchs

[BlackSkimmer]

15. And Bill Gates.

This is an awful trail of nastiness.

[LakeArenal]

18. Those are the ones we know about.

Tip of an iceberg probably.

[BlackSkimmer]

20. I agree.

Disgusting.

[BlackSkimmer]

13. Let's not forget that there are other connections.

She was invited to Chelsea’s wedding, remember.

[LakeArenal]

21. Note: profiles are sometimes very interesting.

Just sayin’!!

[BlackSkimmer]

22. Oh, hell yes!

[lapucelle]

28. Chelsea who? Which Chelsea is connected to Maxwell? N/T

[BlackSkimmer]

33. Um...are you being serious here?

[lapucelle]

40. Yes. Which Chelsea is connected to Maxwell? N/T

[BlackSkimmer]

42. Maxwell was invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

And she attended.

I really have no knowledge of the vast numbers of women named Chelsea you must know.

[lapucelle]

46. Why would anyone think that there is a Chelsea Clinton-Ghislaine Maxwell connection

relevant to today's verdict?



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[BlackSkimmer]

49. Lol.

Ok, I see you.

[Sienna86]

66. If she decides to bargain, many will be affected.

Lots of wealthy and/or powerful men are likely worried.

[lapucelle]

71. Sentence bargaining is not an available option after a conviction. If Maxwell were going to bargain,

she would have done it before the trial.

She could "cooperate" at this point in exchange for a motion for a sentence at the lower end of recommended guidelines.

Someone up thread noted that profiles are sometimes very interesting.

[Kingofalldems]

61. Here's one:

[BlackSkimmer]

19. Perhaps you mean the monarchy.

There is only one monarch. I doubt she knew anything about these scum.

[ShazzieB]

53. Yes, there's only one monarch.

And only one member of the royal family was mixed up with Epstein: Prince Andrew. None of the others have been anywhere near that cesspool. So "monarchs" was incorrect for multiple reasons.

[BlackSkimmer]

54. Thank you.

Monarchs are butterflies.

[phylny]

8. I can't even with your response.

It’s not sex. It’s rape. The rape and exploitation of children.

People care about that. Victims deserve some justice.

[LakeArenal]

11. Children victims at that.

We can’t know the many victims but we can make sure there is pressure to make the offenders pay.

[demmiblue]

17. +1

What a shit post that was.

[LakeArenal]

23. Check profiles when people say the craziest things.

[Scrivener7]

37. Thank you! What the hell? We have to explain this????

Assholes abound today.

[Lucinda]

10. U N D E R A G E girls

[niyad]

31. By definition, girls are underage. I got so annoyed seeing stupid phrases like "underage

women." If they are underage they are minor children, by legal definition. Underage girls is redundant.

[Scrivener7]

38. I hear you, but some people need to be beat over the head with the concept.

As we have seen in this thread.

"Underage women" makes me see the red mist. "Underage girls," while redundant, may get the point across to the astonishingly dense.

[niyad]

45. Sadly, you are quite correct. But it really is quite irritating.

[Hekate]

25. Girls as young as 13 & 14 were recruited, groomed, used, taken across state & national boundaries

You need anything else?

Plus Epstein and Maxwell were absolute masters at collecting powerful names, making influential friends, offering favors of free private jet rides to big conferences.

Their Rolodex apparently reads like a Who’s Who of stratospherically important men. For some of them, you know they were in it for the grotesque sex with very young girls. For others, well they were cleverly suckered in to the orbit. Sorting out which is which is not a job I want.

[muriel_volestrangler]

26. Acosta, later Trump's Secretary of Labor, gave Epstein a federal non-prosecution agreement

Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, agreed to a plea deal,[37] to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". That agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment.

The Miami Herald reported: "Acosta agreed, despite a federal law to the contrary, that the deal would be kept from the victims."[38] The plea deal was later described as a "sweetheart deal".[39] Epstein would go on to serve only 13 months in a private wing of the county jail, permitted to leave for 12 hours a day as 'work release'.[40]

Acosta has variously stated that he was not directly involved in the unusual agreement, that prosecutors determined it to be the best available solution, and that he "was unduly pressured by Epstein's heavy-hitting lawyers." He also has argued the prosecution team believed conviction by trial in federal court was unlikely, and an agreement would therefore be the best way to put an end to Epstein's exploitation of underage girls.[41][42][43]

According to the Miami Herald, Acosta took the unusual step of meeting with Epstein's attorney at a hotel 70 miles from the U.S. Attorney's office in Miami, and it was Acosta who finalized the agreement. According to the article: "In email after email, Acosta... acquiesced to Epstein's legal team's demands, which often focused on ways to limit the scandal by shutting out his victims and the media, including suggesting that the charges be filed in Miami, instead of Palm Beach, where Epstein's victims lived."[43]

Acosta later said he offered a lenient plea deal because he was told that Epstein "belonged to intelligence", was "above his pay grade," and to "leave it alone".[44][45][46]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta#Jeffrey_Epstein_case

There was a high-level cover-up, involving a senior Republican. This is as close as the victims can get to justice now.

[smirkymonkey]

27. Because it's about time that we stop turning a blind eye to rich men exploiting vulnerable

young, poor women for sex and destroying their lives. That's why we should care. WTF is wrong with you that you don't see a problem with this issue?

[Good egg]

51. What rock are you living under?

This is not "crap." This is a victory for those of us who care about about the abuse of girls by powerful men, who have supported all of the female children trying to tell their storiejs but squelched by their abusers, who have followed the connections between Epstein and Barr's father. We care. We are rejoicing in this jury decision.

[AZLD4Candidate]

56. Really hideous reponse here

I guess high up men abusing children and the woman that enabled it isn't high on your list of things.

[whathehell]

68. So sex trafficking kids isn't worth "caring" about?

What's wrong with you?

[Patterson]

12. Will this facilitate finding other guilty people?

[Mr.Bill]

24. The first thing it will facilitate

is a bunch of appeals.

[empedocles]

35. Appeals should go nowhere. Sentencing . . .

[Mr.Bill]

36. I agree. But nowhere can take a long time to get to. n/t

[Rebl2]

43. I agree

but not realistic. They will appeal-unfortunately.

[Kid Berwyn]

14. "I wish her well." -- Donald J Trump

I wish they don’t treat her they way they treated Jeffrey Epstein and the DC Madame, murderously.

[Good egg]

55. So you agree with Trump?

Did I log into some creepily misogynistic blog and not onto DU? Who do you think is the "they" that "suicided" Epstein? Why would you defend him or Maxwell? Do you care less about these girl children than than you do the powerful and disgustingly rich Epstein and Maxwell and Trump? I am rejoicing that the jury found her guilty and hope she gets the maximum sentence.

[Kid Berwyn]

72. Where'd you get that from my post?

Here’s a sampling of what I’ve posted on the subject:

Why Trump wishes Ghislaine well.

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."



A prominent Epstein victim, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, says his ex-girlfriend and alleged "madam," Ghislaine Maxwell, recruited her into Epstein's sex trafficking operation when she worked as a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 1999, when she was 15.

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-and-trump-mar-a-lago-resort-connections


Three Big Pols Who Won't Miss Jeffrey Epstein.

1.) William Barr — US Attorney General Barr’s dad Donald Barr hired Epstein to teach at The Dalton School, decades later he would oversee Epstein’s arrest and incarceration.

2.) Alexander Acosta — When serving as a US Attorney, former Secretary of Labor Acosta arranged a most lenient plea deal that served to protect child sexual predator Epstein from his accusers and justice.

3.) Donald Trump — Trump partied hearty with Epstein and his entourage, selected Acosta to head the Department of Labor which investigates sex trafficking, and hired Barr to cover up things that include the Mueller Report.


Roy Cohn was their friend, too.



The Ghost of Roy Cohn

BY TERRY MELANSON · AUGUST 24, 2014

EXCERPT...

In an interview with former NYPD detective James Rothstein, this author discovered that such operations do exist and go far back into America’s secret history. Rothstein is no conspiracy theorist. He is a legend in American law enforcement and speaks from experience. Furthermore, he gave me two notable examples from his time as a detective. Rothstein had an opportunity to have a sit-down with infamous McCarthy committee counsel Roy Cohn. During this sit-down, Cohn admitted to Rothstein that he was part of a rather elaborate sexual blackmail operation that compromised politicians with child prostitutes (Rothstein, no pagination). Cohn told Rothstein that this operation was being carried out as part of the anticommunist crusade of the time (no pagination).

Rothstein also had an opportunity to speak to infamous Watergate burglar Frank Sturgis. During this conversation, Sturgis revealed one of the reasons for breaking into the Watergate. According to Sturgis, there was a “Pedophile Book” hidden away at the Democratic National Committee headquarters (no pagination). The book was supposed to have a list of pedophiles on the American political scene (no pagination). One can only imagine the power G. Gordon Liddy would have held over the government if he had such a book in his possession.

I asked Rothstein if Roy Cohn was a real anticommunist or just using the fear of communism to justify his sex ring. It seemed like a fair question. After all, Cohn had argued against homosexuals being schoolteachers when he himself was a homosexual. Perhaps Cohn’s hypocrisy extended to his anticommunism. Rothstein made it clear that Cohn was a genuine anticommunist (no pagination). Anticommunist sentiments aside, evidence suggests that the sex ring operation started by Cohn was used for more than fighting the threat of domestic communists. Fugitive ex-CIA officer Frank Terpil has claimed that sexual blackmailing operations directed by the CIA were intensive in Washington during the Watergate era (DeCamp 179). Terpil also asserts that his former partner, Ed Wilson, was coordinating one of these sexual blackmail operations (179). In a letter to author Jim Hougan, Terpil revealed Wilson’s modus operandi:

“Historically, one of Wilson’s Agency jobs was to subvert members of both houses [of Congress] by any means necessary…. Certain people could be easily coerced by living out their sexual fantasies in the flesh…. A remembrance of these occasions [was] permanently recorded via selected cameras…. The technicians in charge of filming… were TSD [Technical Services Division of the CIA]. The unwitting porno stars advanced in their political careers, some of [whom] may still be in office.” (Qtd. in DeCamp 179)

According to John DeCamp, a former Nebraska Senator and Vietnam War hero, Wilson’s operation was merely a continuation of the one set up by Cohn (179). When I asked James Rothstein if Palfrey’s outfit was a continuation of the sexual blackmail rings that began with Cohn, he answered in the affirmative (Rothstein, pagination). The NYPD veteran made it clear that Palfrey’s outfit could not exist in Washington unless it was a tool for the power elite and sinister factions of the intelligence community (no pagination). Somewhere in a Queens cemetery, the corpse of a high-powered attorney is smiling in his grave.

SOURCE:

https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/the-ghost-of-roy-cohn/



Please go there.



Rupert Murdoch, who has a long history of paying $millions to cover-up the sexual abuse and harassment of women at Fox News, is pictured with Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell below which points to them possibly being friends. But what is more interesting is that Jeffrey Epstein had Rupert Murdoch’s private contact details in his black book which was revealed in 2015 court proceedings.

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2019/08/13/was-rupert-murdoch-involved-in-the-jeffrey-epstein-paedophile-scandal-given-his-details-were-in-epsteins-black-book/


Fox News regrets 'mistakenly' editing Donald Trump out of photo with Jeffrey Epstein



Fox News on Monday confirmed that the network had edited President Donald Trump out of a photo in which he appeared with convicted sexual offender Jeffrey Epstein.

The incident occurred during a broadcast on Sunday covering the arrest of Epstein confidant Ghislaine Maxwell.

Continues...

https://www.alternet.org/2020/07/fox-news-regrets-mistakenly-editing-donald-trump-out-of-photo-with-jeffrey-epstein/

Gee.That seems a pretty bad editing uh miscue. Fox shoulda asked DU.



I read Epstein introduced the current Trumps. Maybe Ghislaine can confirm.




Welcome to DU, Good egg. What have you posted about Epstein and organized child predation? I’ll be sure to look out for your future contributions to the discussion.

[lpbk2713]

16. She won't be procuring for a while.

Enjoy that prison food.

[XanaDUer2]

30. Yummy cheese and bologna nt

[Raine]

29. and the participants get away

seems very unsatisfying.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

32. So in the process of this did prosecutors also get the goods on any big shots?

Or does that come later? It feels like only partial justice has been done so far.

[BlackSkimmer]

34. The big shots are safe.

I feel sure about that.

[Scrivener7]

47. I think you're right, but I wish you weren't.

[BlackSkimmer]

50. Me too.

I originally didn’t think anything hinky about Epstein’s death, but I do now.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

63. But why are they safe to the point that their names aren't even bandied about?

Epstein was wealthy and connected. Ken Lay, Martin Shkreli, Bernie Madoff-- wealthy and connected and they got caught.
Why wouldn't Maxwell want to roll on some big shots in exchange for a light sentence? Or did Epstein's "suicide" shut her up?

[pecosbob]

52. News flash...rich, politically-connected white men generally do not go to jail in this country

unless their crimes are beyond the pale, and I mean way beyond the pale, like Jeffrey Epstein, Martin Shkreli or the Sacklers...and even then they're typically only convicted of minor offenses.

[Ford_Prefect]

58. It is not so much the crimes they commit but whether the evidence sees the light of day.

As a class they are often though not invariably criminals. No one is a billionaire without committing enormous theft somewhere along the way.

[pecosbob]

62. I'd handicap self-made millionaires at 5 to 2 liklihood of criminality

But familial fortunes just keep on giving and giving. If we really want to break up the legacy Masters of the Universe Club we should address pass-through fortunes. Do we really want a bunch of inbred Donald Jrs. running the world?

[Joinfortmill]

41. Could get-up to 65 years.

[Metaphorical]

44. Care to bet how long she lives before sentencing?

There was always the possibility she would be found not guilty, which is why I suspect she chose a path of silence.

Now, there's simply a question of how many decades she will spend in prison. If I was one of Epstein's guests, now would be a great time to pay off some guards to look the other way.

[Scrivener7]

48. That is interesting in two ways. First, as you say, she could go the way of Epstein.

But also as you say, she was silent till now because there was a chance she would be found not guilty. I wonder if she will barter information now for better treatment or sentencing considerations.

[Xolodno]

60. I'm thinking the latter.

The judge didn't give a sentencing date. But that allows prosecution and defense to start "bargaining". Flip side, if she starts giving up names, the implications could be costly and so scandalous, you have to wonder if they dare to go after them or just some of them.

[Kingofalldems]

57. Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals.

[Kingofalldems]

59. This is great news!

[Kingofalldems]

65. "I just wish her well, frankly."

Link to tweet

[Generic Brad]

67. Now she gets 3 hots and a cot - but no tots

[moondust]

69. Money Money Money Money

Lisa Bloom, lawyer for some of the victims, says Ghislaine did it all for the lavish lifestyle she had with the super rich guy.

[AdamGG]

70. Hopefully, Elizabeth Holmes will be the next high profile guilty verdict.

[Politicub]

73. She go to prison for the rest of her life, while the men Epstein supplied with

girls will get away without any investigation into their alleged crimes.

At least I think she’ll see prison; rich-person justice will probably come into play and it will be the privileged version of prison.